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Date Posted: 17:58:20 03/21/02 Thu
Author: Òðåéòÿê
Subject: íå òðåáà îáðàæàòè âîëåëþáíèõ êî÷îâèê³â! :)
In reply to: Ìàêñèì 's message, "ìåòàô³çèêà ïîâåðòàºòüñÿ" on 01:45:44 03/21/02 Thu

---  ë³ñ³ ìîæíà "ïàðòèçàíèòè" äîâãî, â ãîðàõ - íåñê³í÷åííî äîâãî. À Ñòåï íå äîçâîëÿº òàêó ðîçê³ø. Òè àáî êî÷îâèê, àáî ðàá.

Òîáòî Âè âèñóâàºòå òåçó, ùî â Ñòåïó ìîæíà áóòè àáî êî÷îâèêîì, àáî ðàáîì. Àëå òîä³ äî ÷îãî òóò ïîëîâö³? Âîíè æ òî áóëè êî÷îâèêàìè (íàï³âêî÷îâèêàìè), é ðàáàìè âîíè ÿêðàç íå áóëè. Îòæå, íàçèâàòè "ïîëîâ÷èíàìè" ñó÷àñíèõ îñ³ëèõ ñòåïîâèê³â-"ðàá³â" òî îçíà÷ຠîáðàæàòè âîëåëþáíèõ êî÷îâèê³â-ïîëîâö³â :)

Äàë³ ùîäî ïàðòèçàíêè â ñòåïó.  ñòåïó º ñâî¿ òðàäèö³¿ ïàðòèçàíêè (äî ðå÷³, ïàðòèçàíè - öå çàâæäè äî ïåâíî¿ ì³ðè "êî÷îâèêè" - íàâ³òü ó ë³ñ³, òà é â ãîðàõ òåæ, îòæå ïàðòèçàíêà - öå äî ïåâíî¿ êî÷³âíèöòâî áóäü-äå, ó ñòåïó â ò.÷.). Çãàäàéòå õî÷à á êîçàê³â - âîíè æ íå áóëè ðàáàìè, ÷è íå òàê? À ãàéäàìàêè (ë³ñîñòåï ï³âäåííîãî Ïðàâîáåðåææÿ)? Ãàéäàìàêè "ïàðòèçàíèëè" âïðîäîâæ ö³ëèõ äåñÿòèð³÷. Ç íîâ³òí³õ ÷àñ³â ïðîïîíóþ çãàäàòè áàòüêà Ìàõíà - ÷èñòèé ñòåï, ñòåï-ñòåïîâèé, Ãóëÿéïëüùèíà - é í³÷îãî, òåæ í³áè óñï³øíî ïàðòèçàíèâ íà ñâî¿õ òà÷àíêàõ. Äåí³ê³íó âåëèê³ ïðîáëåìè ðîáèâ, ðå´óëÿðíî ïñóâàâ íàñòð³é éîãî ´åíåðàëàì. :)

Îòæå íå âñå òàê ïðîñòî, ÿê çäàºòüñÿ. Ïàðòèçàíèòè ìîæíà é â ñòåïó, áóëî áè ò³ëüêè áàæàííÿ. Çâè÷àéíî, º ñâî¿ ñêëàäíîù³, ñïåöèô³êà ïðèðîäíèõ óìîâ, àëå ìîæíà. À ïðèäóøèòè ñïðîòèâ ìîæíà é â ãîðàõ.

--- êèÿíè, ðîñ³éùåí³ â³êàìè ÷è íå íàéá³ëüøå, â³äòâîðþþòü ïñèõîëîã³þ ïîâåä³íêè òà ìàþòü òàê³ ñàì³ ïîë³òè÷í³ óïîäîáàííÿ ÿê ³ íàñåëåííÿ Êè¿âñüêî¿ îáëàñò³; â³äõèëåííÿ íåçíà÷í³, íåçâàæàþ÷è íà íîâ³ êîìïëåêñè óñâ³äîìëåííÿ ñåáå ìåøêàíöÿìè ñòîëèö³.

Çàóâàæåííÿ: á³ëüø³ñòü íèí³øíüîãî íàñåëåííÿ Êèºâà ïîõîäèòü ç éîãî áëèçüêî¿ òà â³ääàëåíî¿ îêîëèö³ - ñ³ë, ñåëèù, ì³ñòå÷îê, òîùî - ÿêùî íå â ïåðøîìó, òî â äðóãîìó-òðåòüîìó ïîêîë³íí³ òî òî÷íî. Öåé ïðîöåñ çàì³íè ì³ñüêîãî íàñåëåííÿ º ïîñò³éíèì. Íàòîì³ñòü òàê çâàí³ "êîð³íí³ êèÿíè" ñòàíîâëÿòü äóæå-äóæå íåçíà÷íèé â³äñîòîê â íàñåëåíí³ ì³ñòà. Îòæå, íå íàñåëåííÿ Êèºâà ñàìå ñîáîþ â³äòâîðþº ïîãëÿäè êè¿âñüêî¿ îáë., àëå ðàäøå êè¿âñüêà îáë. ñàìà ïðèíîñèòü äî Êèºâà ñâî¿ "ïîë³òè÷í³ óïîäîáàííÿ" (â ëàïêàõ, áî òàêå îçíà÷åííÿ, íà ìîþ äóìêó, º íàäòî óìîâíå). ßêðàç îòå "êîð³ííå" (òåæ â ëàïêàõ, áî í³ÿêå âîíî íàñïðàâä³ íå êîð³ííå, à ïåðåâàæíî ñêëàäàºòüñÿ ç ³íøîåòí³÷íèõ çàéä) íàñåëåííÿ Êèºâà í³÷îãî íå "â³äòâîðþº".

Äî ðå÷³, ÷è Âè ÷èòàëè "Á³ëó ´âàðä³þ" Áóë´àêîâà? ß ê³ëüêà ðàç³â ïåðå÷èòóâàâ, áî äóæå ÿñêðàâèé çðàçîê çàéäèíåöüêîãî ìèñëåííÿ ò. çâ. "êîð³ííèõ êèÿí", ïðÿìî ÿêèéñü íàâ÷àëüíèé ïîñ³áíèê. ×óäîâèé ìàòåð³àë äëÿ ïîëüîâèõ äîñë³äæåíü. Âîíè ñåáå â³ä÷óâàþòü íåíà÷å íà îñòðîâ³ ñåðåä ìîðÿ (âèçíà÷åííÿ ñàìîãî Áóë´àêîâà âêðàé âëó÷íå!) - âîíè íå ðîçóì³þòü òî¿ êðà¿íè, äå æèâóòü, âîíè íå çíàþòü ¿¿ íàñåëåííÿ, éîãî ìîâè, âîíè áåç æîäíîãî ´ðóíòó â òîìó êðà¿.  öüîìó ¿õíÿ òðà´åä³ÿ - òðà´åä³ÿ ãåðî¿â "Á³ëî¿ ´âàð䳿". É ñàì Áóë´àêîâ - öå îäèí ç íèõ, òîìó éîãî ñâ³ä÷åííÿ º òàêå ö³ííå. Îêñàíà Çàáóæêî òàêå áà÷åííÿ íàçâàëà "Óêðà¿íà çà Ìèøëàºâñüêèì".


Ïîâåðòàþ÷èñü äî íàøèõ îñ³ëèõ ñòåïîâèê³â. Õî÷ó ùå ðàç íàãîëîñèòè ñâîþ ðàí³øó òåçó-êîíñòàòàö³þ: âîíè çàñåëèëè ò³ çåìë³ ÿê ï³ääàíö³ ìîñêîâñüêîãî öàðÿ, öå âàæëèâî õî÷à á òîìó, ùî öå éîãî äàðóíîê. Âîíè íå òàê ó´ðóíòîâàí³ â ñâîìó êðà¿, ÿê ò³, ùî ëèøèëèñÿ íà êîð³ííèõ çåìëÿõ (óðèâàííÿ òðàäèö³¿), â³äòàê ï³äâèùåíà ëîÿëüí³ñòü äî âëàäè âçàãàë³, áî âîíè íà òèõ çåìëÿõ ïåðåáóâàþòü íå ç âëàñíîãî ñïàäêîºìñòâà, àëå íåìîâáè ç ëàñêè âëàäè (îñü ó ÷îìó òóò ïåâíà ìåòàô³çèêà ïðîñòåæóºòüñÿ). Äî òîãî æ, öåé êðàé í³êîëè, â³ä ïî÷àòê³â çàñåëåííÿ, íå áóâ ÷èñòî óêðà¿íñüêèì - óêðà¿íñüêå íàñåëåííÿ áóëî äîáðå ðîçáàâëåíå ³íîåòí³÷íèìè åëåìåíòàìè, à ì³ñòî (âïëèâ ì³ñòà ÿê öåíòðó, äîäàéòå ñþäè óðáàí³çàö³þ) - ïåðøîçàñíîâàíå Ðîñ³éñüêîþ ³ìïåð³ºþ, é íåóêðà¿íñüêå â³ä ïî÷àòêó - éîãî íå áóëî ïîòðåáè äîäàòêîâî ðîñ³éùèòè - âîíî òàêèì áóëî íàðîäæåíå.

Îòæå, óêðà¿íñòâî â òèõ çäîáóòèõ ðîñ³éñüêîþ çáðîºþ çåìëÿõ íåìຠòàêîãî ´ðóíòó, ÿê ó êîð³ííèõ. Âîíî ïî÷óâàºòüñÿ òàì íåïåâíî, ç ö³ëêîì îá"ºêòèâíèõ ïðè÷èí.


Ùîäî ï³äòðèìêè íèí³øíüî¿ âëàäè: ð³÷ ó ò³ì, ùî íèí³øíÿ óêðà¿íñüêà îïîçèö³ÿ ìຠñâ³é ´ðóíò ÿêðàç â êîð³ííèõ çåìëÿõ (íàâ³òü Ìîðîç ðîçðàõîâóº íàñàìïåðåä íà ï³äòðèìêó â Öåíòð³, àëå íå íà Ñõîä³ ³ íå íà ϳâäí³), à âëàäà - ðåïðåçåíòóº ... äí³ïðîïåòðîâñüêèé òà äîíåöüêèé êëàíè. ×è âñå çðîçóì³ëî?  1994 ð. Êó÷ìà îáðàâñÿ ÿêðàç â òîìó ðå´³îí³ (íàéö³êàâ³øå, ùî âèçíà÷íèé âïëèâ òîä³ ñïðàâèâ ñàìå Êðèì), à â êîð³ííèõ çåìëÿõ îäíîçíà÷íî ïåðåì³ã Êðàâ÷óê.

Ïðîòå, âëàäà ñèäèòü â Êèºâ³, à ÿêùî âîíà ñèäèòü â Êèºâ³, òî ìóñèòü ðàõóâàòèñÿ ç òèì, ùî º äîâêîëà. Òîáòî ç íàñòðîÿìè â êîð³ííèõ çåìëÿõ. Á³ëüøå çà òå, êîð³íí³ çåìë³ ðåïðåçåíòóþòü äåðæàâíó ³äåþ, á³ëüø-ìåíø çãóðòîâàíó, ó òîé ÷àñ ÿê âåëèêà ï³âäåííî-ñõ³äíà ñòåïîâà ìàñà íå º çãóðòîâàíîþ, âîíà íå ðåïðåçåíòóº ºäèíî¿ äåðæàâíî¿ ³äå¿, öå á³ëüø ñõîæå íà ÿê³ñü óëàìêè, çâàëåí³ äîêóïè. Îñê³ëüêè âëàäà õî÷å ïðàâèòè äåðæàâîþ, òî ìóñèòü ñïèðàòèñÿ íà äåðæàâíó ³äåþ êîð³ííèõ çåìåëü. É âîäíî÷àñ, íà ãîëîñè Ñòåïó (áî â êîð³ííèõ çåìëÿõ âëàäà-âèõ³äåöü ç³ Ñòåïó íåïîïóëÿðíà) - ïîçàÿê Ñòåï çà íå¿ ïðîãîëîñóº (ö³ëêîì óìîâíî "äåðæàâíîþ ³äåºþ" Ñòåïó ìîæíà áóëî á íàçâàòè êîìóí³ñò³â - íà öå âêàçóº ¿õíÿ ïîïóëÿðí³ñòü ñàìå â òîìó ðå´³îí³, à íàéá³ëüøå, çâè÷àéíî, ó Êðèìó, àëå íàñïðàâä³ æîäíèõ ñê³ëüêè-íåáóäü ïîçèòèâíèõ ³äåé êîìóí³ñòè íå ìàþòü)


Äîòåïåð ÿ òîðêàâñÿ âèêëþ÷íî ïîòî÷íî¿ "ïàòîâî¿" ñèòóàö³¿, øëÿõè âèõîäó ç íå¿ - òî òðîõè ³íøà òåìà. ª ð³çí³ âàð³àíòè.

Äåùî ïðî "íàéä³éíîãî çàõèñíèêà". Íàñàìïåðåä, öå ñòîñóºòüñÿ âæå ñàìå øëÿõ³â âèõîäó, ñïîñîá³â ðîçâ"ÿçàííÿ ïðîáëåìè. Ðîçó쳺òå, íàéáëèæ÷èì ÷àñîì "ìàòåðèíñüêà Ðóñü" íàâðÿä ÷è çìîæå ùîñü íàä³éíî ´àðàíòóâàòè, ç îá"ºêòèâíèõ ïðè÷èí. Òàê ñàìî, âîíà íå ìîæå ´àðàíòóâàòè é ïðèíàëåæí³ñòü äî âåëèêî¿ íàö³¿ (ñâîãî ðîäó çàõèñò), áî ÿêùî óêðà¿íö³ êîëèñü áóäóòü âåëèêîþ íàö³ºþ, òî öå áóäå íåñêîðî. ß òàê ãàäàþ, ùî "ïîçèòèâíèé" ("íå´àòèâíèì" ÿ ââàæàþ ëî´³÷íå çàâåðøåííÿ êîíöåïö³¿ Ëåìà) âèõ³ä òðåáà øóêàòè ÷åðåç ïñèõîëî´³¿ ìåøêàíö³â êðàþ, ÷åðåç ¿õí³ óïîäîáàííÿ, íå çâ"ÿçàí³ ç ñàìîâèçíà÷åííÿì íàö³îíàëüíîñò³. Àäæå âîíè ùå íå º ïðàâäèâîþ íàö³ºþ, Ëåì ñëóøíî çàóâàæèâ, ðîçâèòîê íàö³îíàëüíî¿ ñâ³äîìîñò³ â íèõ çóïèíèâñÿ äåñü íà ïî÷àòêó Õ²Õ ñò. - ñèðîâèíà äëÿ ôîðìóâàííÿ ìîäåðíî¿ íàö³¿.

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