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Date Posted: 11:46:22 04/27/02 Sat
Author: stored
Subject: R1

Religion I


The Philosopher's Corner, (and its varied forums) is for those wishing to debate ideas in an
environment relatively free of personal attacks. This does NOT mean that ideas are not to be
challenged and/or heavily debated. Bringing arguments from another forum to this forum or any
other PC forum totally distorts the original message made, gives a biased slant and is
inappropriate. Standing firm and making one's case on its own merits is the intelligent choice.
Attacking and/or challenging an opinion is fair game.. Attacking someone personally is not.
--Susan

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MESSAGES IN THIS FORUM ARE PRESENTED AS NEWEST TO OLDEST.

*Coinkydink
In Response To Murray
Friday April 26, 2002 at 19:53

Oh, there you are! Perhaps I am a little wary of most fundamentalists, but with good reason,
based on the treatment I have recieved from them. However are your doctrines significantly
different from Tamarisk and ACNR? I didn't realize that. I don't think either of them behaves in
person or at their churches the way they do online, do you? That is part of my point. My old
acquaintences form church were very careful not to show their fanatic side to those who would
not agree with them or who might censure them at church. But here online, there are no such
restraints.

*Coinkydink
In Response To Ya'll
Friday April 26, 2002 at 19:48

Nobody seems to be here with me, so I'll leave this little tidbit...Einstein must have been a fun
guy..he said so many pithy things...

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." -- Albert Einstein

Murray
In Response To Coinkydink
Friday April 26, 2002 at 19:47

You say that all those people could be going to the same church, but they couldn't and
wouldn't. You say that whatever his name is could be a deacon in my church, but it would
never happen. You give us no credit for being discriminating or discerning when it is you that is
not. Because you did not find one that is, you can not allow for a healthy church that is based
on the traditional Christian articles of faith. Not only your ignorance, but your anitpathy toward
any church that is or claims to be traditional Christianity is clear, not just now, but over a long
period of time. And by lumping good and sincere people in with that other guy, you condemn
them. In this and by the other ways mentioned, you show yourself to have the attitude of a
bigot.

*Coinkydink
In Response To Ten megs
Friday April 26, 2002 at 18:30

In the first place, let me say that I don't take the creation story as a literal history of creation...it
was a legend or traditional story handed down word of mouth for a long time before someone
wrote it down. In fact, I believe there are 2 versions of it, because there was more than one
group of Hebrews that came together to form one nation of Israel. Even so, I'd like to ask you
a question. Would a God who created man to be a puppet or robot without free will be a
better God or a worse one?

*Coinkydink
In Response To Dori
Friday April 26, 2002 at 18:25

I chose to reply to the one part of your post that I felt would NOT result in an arguement and I
made it into a joke (which you have trouble recognizing, it seems)...but I realize that whatever I
say you are going to criticize it, so why do I bother to try to be civil? I do it because I want to
be civil to you...can't you try to see that?

OK...:) This means what I have said is mildly amusing to me. ;) This means its irony or sarcasm
or just kidding. :P And this means I'm sticking my tongue out and going PPPFFFT! :D this one
means I'm laughing and happy. When I'm being nasty I'll try to tell you, OK?

Sim 2
In Response To Ten Megs
Friday April 26, 2002 at 18:21

If God was all powerful, He could prevent Satan's actions.
So, why is it, then, that Satan bears the burden of blame?

"Freewill".

Adam and Eve were also "perfect" when created, but having "Freewill" was their "downfall".

Sure God could have created "robots", but then "LOVE" can't be "programmed", it can only
be an "ACT OF FREEWILL" of the individual.

*Coinkydink
In Response To Murray
Friday April 26, 2002 at 18:18

Gerry has admited that his doctrinal stances are the same as ACNR's...so what is the real
difference? That ACNR abuses people with more rude language or that he hates women? I
wager that if he were a deacon in your church, you wouldn't recognise him as ACNR, unless
he slips up and shows his true abusive nature, like he does in the forums. Now nothing I have
said means that you or Gerry or Connie would behave as he does, does it? No, I didn't say
that at all. As for condemnation, what condemnation?

*Coinkydink
In Response To Murray
Friday April 26, 2002 at 18:14

What part of this statement do you refute? What part of it makes me a bigot? Here's what i
said, ""Sad or not, most of the doctrines that Acnr or Tamarisk posts are the same as the ones
espoused here...they are ruder, but about the same brand of Christian as far as I can see. You
could all be going to the same church, except for Dori, who is Catholic. It would be hard to
recognise ACNR in his sunday suit singing in the pew next to you." (continued)

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