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Date Posted: 12:28:53 04/22/02 Mon
Author: stored
Subject: R1

Religion I


The Philosopher's Corner, (and its varied forums) is for those wishing to debate ideas in an environment relatively
free of personal attacks. This does NOT mean that ideas are not to be challenged and/or heavily debated.
Bringing arguments from another forum to this forum or any other PC forum totally distorts the original message
made, gives a biased slant and is inappropriate. Standing firm and making one's case on its own merits is the
intelligent choice. Attacking and/or challenging an opinion is fair game.. Attacking someone personally is not.
--Susan

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MESSAGES IN THIS FORUM ARE PRESENTED AS NEWEST TO OLDEST.

GerryB.
In Response To Jeanie
Monday April 22, 2002 at 10:14

I asked you to present some evidence for your claim of the senility of John. Do you have it in front of you yet? I'm
waiting to see it.

GerryB.
In Response To Jeanie
Monday April 22, 2002 at 10:12

To begin with John is not one of my idols. He was personally selected (as they all were) by Jesus Christ to be an
Apostle. I know that different preacher differ on the details of the end times prophecies. That is why I don't
depend on preachers for my information but, as Paul told us, "check all things by the scriptures." That plus the
guidance of the Holy Spirit assures that I get it right.

`Ctaj
In Response To Coinkydink
Monday April 22, 2002 at 10:02

I wouldn't worry about insulting John. The man was a lunatic. He stole his apocalypse story from the Assyrians,
and his multi-headed monster from The Hydra of Greek mythology. Apocalypse Then.

*Coinkydink
In Response To Gerry
Monday April 22, 2002 at 9:54

I'm sorry I insulted one of your idols, the disciple John. I have never believed any of the preachers who preached
about the end times...They all disagreed with each other and in my old church there was constant arguing over
who would go first and who would reign with Jesus, then that group of fanatics came up with their cabal to bring
about Armageddan...I just balk whenever I see or hear about any of it. It's a personla problem with me and not
meant to insult you or Sim. I'm sorry...I over-reacted and was rude.

`Ctaj
In Response To RonB
Monday April 22, 2002 at 9:51

That's only the "more plausible" story because you come in with the preconcieved notion that Christ couldn't
have died. This "plausible" story forgets to take into account that the Romans were very efficient
executioners and that they confirmed Christ was dead by piercing Him with a lance (which was the Roman
custom).

Read up on it. Crucifixions normally took up to three days to kill the victim. Legs were usually broken to hasten
the process, but in this case they weren't. This particular executioner turned out to be a follower of Jesus, so was
likely in on the ruse.

It's more plausible because I come in with the notion that reality exists.

GerryB.
In Response To dori
Monday April 22, 2002 at 9:47

Why did Charlie go without you? I thought that you guys went everywhere together.

GerryB.
In Response To dori
Monday April 22, 2002 at 9:45

I had a very pleasant weekend until I discovered last night that Pat's cat had pushed out one corner of the screen
in the parlor window and either jumped or fell out and apparently escaped. I can't see any sign of the stupid thing
on the ground outside. When she finds out about it she'll accuse me of throwing it out. SIGH!!!

GerryB.
In Response To Jeanie
Monday April 22, 2002 at 9:40

Yes, Jeanie, John was senile when he was in exile on patmos. Sure, he was. Would you please present some
evidence to back that statement up. I have read a number of books written by historians concerning his life and no
one except you ever suggested that. Really, your hatred for the great apostles has no bounds. Yet you try to call
yourself a Christian. If you were your life would show some fruit. It doesn't.

dori
In Response To Gerry
Monday April 22, 2002 at 9:36

Good morning! I hope you had a pleasant weekend. I took Charlie to the airport yesterday morning and sent him
off to Hawaii. So, needless to say, I wasn't the happiest of campers to be left behind. 8-( I told him I get to take a
trip NEXT year! Smile...

dori
In Response To Ron
Monday April 22, 2002 at 9:32

I enjoyed reading the marathon and I think you and Trisha answered Pac's questions very well. I know I've tried
to address these questions in the past and sometimes haven't found the right words to get the point across. Good
job. I also got a kick out of your playful jabs at Anti-Venom. They don't come around much on the weekends to
provide their unique form of entertainment, but they make up for it Monday. You should have plenty to counter
tonight. *-)

GerryB.
In Response To Sim and dori
Monday April 22, 2002 at 9:31

Good morning.

Pay no attention to the clown show. Just keep on studying the Word and preaching it.

GerryB.
In Response To Sunny
Monday April 22, 2002 at 9:29

RE: "since you are the robot that's been programmed like YOUR pastor, huh?"

Programmed by which pastor. I have had four in the past 10 years. I also know several others personally. I have
the Holy Spirit of God residing in me and aiding me in my understanding of the Holy Word.

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