Hmmm, it looks Universal to me -- The Word Was God

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Date Posted: 23:15:22 04/16/02 Tue
Author: Mondo
Author Host/IP: 24.70.95.203
Subject: Hmmm, it looks Universal to me
In reply to: WOG 's message, "Can't read chapter 5 without reading chapter 1" on 22:57:00 04/16/02 Tue

Rom 5:15
15 But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God's grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many! (NIV)

Mondo: If all fell by the trespass, then HOW MUCH MORE does the gift & grace overflow to the many. Universal fall. Universal salvation.

Rom 5:17
17 For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will ,those who receive God's abundant. provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ. (NIV)

Mondo: Same thing here. HOW MUCH MORE.

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Replies:

A will and freedom of choice -- WOG, 00:10:51 04/17/02 Wed
- Did man have a freewill -- squeak, 08:17:25 04/17/02 Wed
  - What you should consider squeak -- WOG, 09:13:15 04/17/02 Wed
    - Word study on freewill? -- squeak, 09:29:13 04/17/02 Wed
      - Well squeak I do know what grace isn't -- WOG, 14:12:24 04/17/02 Wed
        Therefore as the -- squeak, 14:29:48 04/17/02 Wed
        Of course God's will is stronger than ours squeak -- WOG, 09:02:40 04/18/02 Thu
        Please reference -- squeak, 09:28:02 04/18/02 Thu
        squeak it's all through the Bible -- WOG, 12:53:58 04/18/02 Thu
        Actually it never -- squeak, 07:57:44 04/19/02 Fri
        Well then use that same reasoning -- WOG, 08:24:51 04/19/02 Fri
        Where does it talk about only a few -- squeak, 08:33:01 04/19/02 Fri
        Multitudes doesn't imply everybody -- WOG, 08:48:34 04/19/02 Fri
        A Great multitude which no man could number -- squeak, 09:34:31 04/19/02 Fri
        Weak squeak very weak -- WOG, 12:49:09 04/19/02 Fri
        That's your perception -- squeak, 04:17:11 04/20/02 Sat
        I don't read that the way you do WOG -- Mondo, 09:38:00 04/18/02 Thu
        Mondo do you know anybody? -- WOG, 12:55:36 04/18/02 Thu
        Trick question -- Mondo, 13:06:49 04/18/02 Thu
        I think so -- WOG, 13:42:24 04/18/02 Thu
        I thought -- Mondo, 14:26:49 04/18/02 Thu
        Gotcha -- Mondo, 14:30:20 04/18/02 Thu
        Re: Gotcha -- sue(babe), 02:49:02 04/19/02 Fri
        Right back atcha! -- squeak, 08:04:51 04/19/02 Fri
        Re: Well squeak I do know what grace isn't -- sue(babe), 02:35:05 04/19/02 Fri
        Yes, Babe -- squeak, 08:07:10 04/19/02 Fri
        That's great babe -- WOG, 09:28:46 04/19/02 Fri
        Re: That's great babe -- suethebabe, 02:16:44 04/21/02 Sun
- One man -- Mondo, 09:18:26 04/17/02 Wed
  - The gift -- WOG, 09:08:46 04/18/02 Thu
    - Well, this appears to be a Biblical inconsistency -- Mondo, 13:33:11 04/18/02 Thu
      - There is no inconsistency Mondo -- WOG, 13:52:28 04/18/02 Thu
        It doesn't seem to ring true -- Mondo, 14:37:52 04/18/02 Thu
        Through inheritance yes. -- WOG, 23:10:10 04/18/02 Thu
        That's right and -- squeak, 08:12:02 04/19/02 Fri
        And again squeak -- WOG, 12:59:44 04/19/02 Fri
        So Adam's -- squeak, 08:09:10 04/19/02 Fri
        No -- WOG, 13:39:24 04/19/02 Fri
    - If I may be so bold and use this as an example... -- ever-a-newbie, 13:48:52 04/18/02 Thu
      - It's the Bible newbie..... -- WOG, 14:13:53 04/18/02 Thu
        OK... If you say so... I guess... -- ever-a-newbie, 15:03:11 04/18/02 Thu
        So what do you figure ? -- Mondo, 15:50:44 04/18/02 Thu
        I am figuring that I might do better... -- ever-a-newbie, 16:20:40 04/18/02 Thu
        I hope you are speaking of yourself -- WOG, 23:31:41 04/18/02 Thu
  - Re: One man -- sue (babe), 13:29:11 04/18/02 Thu
    - No babe (NT) -- WOG, 23:34:06 04/18/02 Thu
      - Re: No babe -- sue(babe), 02:52:53 04/19/02 Fri
        He looked like man -- WOG, 08:02:02 04/19/02 Fri
        Re: He looked like man -- sue the babe, 10:24:11 04/19/02 Fri
        Hey -- WOG, 13:01:51 04/19/02 Fri
        Re: Hey -- sue the babe, 15:00:55 04/19/02 Fri
Yes Mondo! -- squeak, 08:10:56 04/17/02 Wed
- I'm just reading -- Mondo, 09:20:15 04/17/02 Wed
  - 1 Corinthians 15 -- squeak, 09:52:25 04/17/02 Wed