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Subject: Visual Test Specifically for Dyslexia


Author:
Gary B
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Date Posted: 18:14:48 12/04/10 Sat

I have looked at a number of sites, but I can find no reference to a Visual Test Specifically for Dyslexia. And that a diagnosis for Dyslexia is still just a "possibly" or a "maybe". Specifically one site, when discussing their battery of tests, states: "tests like these cannot be seen as valid tests for dyslexia, but they are very helpful". Frankly, I find this very surprising. Would you attempt to diagnose Color Blindness with questions?

Unfortunately, much of the information on the net about Dyslexia is about treatments (i.e. pay me money and maybe you get some help). And they probably like it that their potential customers are unsure of their condition, so they are not in position to complain when there is just limited results.

Speaking for all mental conditions, because the brain is not a "binary" device, any condition for an individual would have to exists at some level, not just "is" or "is not". Certainly, I suspect from personal observations that Dyslexia is a condition of degrees.

I believe I have the basis of a visual test specifically for Dyslexia. Is there anyone who is aware of people interested in developing such a Visual Test? A test which could give some measure of the level of the condition. Please let me know.

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[> Subject: Re: Visual Test Specifically for Dyslexia


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John Bradford
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Date Posted: 12:26:53 12/05/10 Sun

An assessment for possible dyslexia by a psychologist involves the use of a number of sub-tests and usually takes an hour or two to administer.

However, the ten questions on our website here are well researched and provide a useful indication of the likelihood of dyslexia in an adult:

http://www.dyslexia-test.com/adults.html

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[> [> Subject: Re: Visual Test Specifically for Dyslexia


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Gary B
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Date Posted: 16:49:33 12/05/10 Sun

Thanks for your response, but did you read my entry? Dyslexia is a visual problem, and should be diagnosed with a visual test. If psychological and cognitive tests are performed to determine the effects that the Dyslexia is having on a person, that's fine. But that does not remove the need for a measurement of the cause of the problem.
[> Subject: Re: Visual Test Specifically for Dyslexia


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John Bradford
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Date Posted: 02:11:01 12/08/10 Wed

Dyslexia is generally not seen as a purely visual difficulty, as is pointed out in this article:

"In the article, Dyslexia Myths Dispelled, the author John Langone alters this myth by pointing out that dyslexia is not a visual problem. "Reading problems distinguishing of many children with language-based learning disabilities have hardly to do with visual processing factors." (Shaywitz, 1996)"

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/6001150/dyslexia_differences_and_treatment.html?cat=4

There are other symptoms which are generally recognized, such as difficulties with left/right, organization and following 2- or 3-step instructions. There is a fuller list of symptoms here:

http://www.dyslexia-teacher.com/t7.html

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[> [> Subject: Re: Visual Test Specifically for Dyslexia


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Gary B
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Date Posted: 16:10:28 12/10/10 Fri

John, when you, and the referenced articles, say Dyslexia is not a visual problem, you are actually saying it is not an optical problem. While this may be splitting hairs (remember that you brought it up), good science dictates a great deal of detailed scrutiny. Dyslexia is not a problem associated with the handling, focusing, detecting of light within the eye. Nor is it a problem with the nerves carrying the signal to the brain. It is once in the brain, (as the articles discuss) the processing and interpreting of these signals that is being done differently. While I agree that for a detailed discussion of this problem, it is necessary to differentiate between optical, sensing, and processing problems. For most general discussions these are components of the "Visual System", and a failure any place within that sequence would be considered a visual problem. (If a bad image comes out of a digital camera, the term "bad" would apply, regardless of whether the lens, CCD, or processor caused the distortion.)

So saying Dyslexia is not a "Visual Problem", is like saying Color Blindness or Prosopagnosia are not visual problems. All three of these have to do with incorrectly processing and interpreting visual information. In the past I worked with color coded items, so I had to take the Color Blindness test a few times. It is not a series of questions, someone just holds up a series of cards with images on them and asks "Wha' do ya see?".

You also make reference to a List of Symptoms. There is a very long discussion concerning many aspects of which symptoms should be on such a list and the exact nature and determination of each symptom. But let's skip that here. There is one point which is important and that is it seems you are trying to say (and maybe I'm misinterpreting) that a blind person would never have some combination of these symptoms. The bottom line on these symptoms, is that they are some of the possible results of this condition, and do exist, individually and in combination, in people without Dyslexia.

More specifically, Dyslexia is a problem where specific shapes are being mishandled and misinterpreted. As one of studies your referenced mentioned, an individual may have problems with the Roman Alphabet but not with the symbolic characters of Kanji. While for an asian, that specific condition would not be a serious problem, but the opposite situation would be.

So I am fairly certain that identifying a set of particular shapes which get "seen" differently by Dyslexics is necessary to quantify and qualify this condition, and to properly develop coping skills.

(P.S. For full disclosure, John are you employed by one of the organizations which sell treatment for Dyslexia?)
[> Subject: Re: Visual Test Specifically for Dyslexia


Author:
Gary B (sad)
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Date Posted: 10:46:12 12/31/10 Fri

I'm very disappointed that the only response was from a person who makes his living "selling treatment" for a condition which has no formal diagnostic test. (Of course his response, "it's not a problem". After all, he makes his money with the situation the way it is.)

Many of the posts on this site have to do with getting the correct and effective treatment. How do you think that correct treatment is possible without the correct diagnosis of specifics and severity? ...I would really like to know?



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