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Subject: Wow Author: Prinncesss [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 00:26:17 01/08/02 Tue I'm listening to the tv here, and it's a Christian healing type program. You know, where the preacher lays hands on them and heals them? The woman gets asked who she is, and she proceeds to give her full name and FULL ADDRESS. I asked John (bf) why in the world she just gave her FULL address, and he said that they are showing past programs from the 50's! That blew me away! Just think, back then you could give such personal information on televison! Not today I'm afraid. Those were the good ol' days... [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: wow is right Author: Secular Monkey [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 03:50:32 01/08/02 Tue wow that you're watching "faith healers" in the first place, considering how so many of them have been exposed as frauds (surprise!). This "good ol' days" reminds me of a few things I've seen. Like the Lil' Rascals episode where Spanky's mom tells him it's time to come in and get washed up. He moans and looks at Buckwheat, saying "you're lucky", insinuating that dirt won't show up on him. Then there's the Jackie Gleason movie I just watched "Father's Delicate Condition". He drove around in his car absolutely hammered for most of the movie. Those were the days. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: wow is right Author: Prinncesss [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:11:56 01/08/02 Tue >wow that you're watching "faith healers" in the first >place, considering how so many of them have been >exposed as frauds (surprise!). > >This "good ol' days" reminds me of a few things I've >seen. Like the Lil' Rascals episode where Spanky's >mom tells him it's time to come in and get washed up. >He moans and looks at Buckwheat, saying "you're >lucky", insinuating that dirt won't show up on him. >Then there's the Jackie Gleason movie I just watched >"Father's Delicate Condition". He drove around in his >car absolutely hammered for most of the movie. Those >were the days. LOL!! That's terrible! You certainly wouldn't hear that today, about black people. You wanna hear something really weird? I SWEAR this is true. Maybe you've experienced this. Now, every time I've ever brought this up, I've been looked at as prejudice toward the black race. I don't see how??? I am NOT prejudice! But anyway, here goes: Every time I've ever given a bed bath to a black resident, a brown color would come off on to the white wash cloth! Why in the world is that? It's like, if I just kept washing, they'd eventually be lighter???? And how is that prejudice? I am simply saying something odd that I've encountered. It's puzzling. As far as the faith healers go, I wasn't watching it, John was, but I was listening in the background. I just didn't feel it was necessary to go into the details of how I heard it. Nevertheless, I was listening, and do watch from time to time. I think some of them are genuine. It 'is' Biblical. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: oh boy Author: Secular Monkey [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:22:30 01/08/02 Tue I SWEAR this is true. Maybe >you've experienced this. Now, every time I've ever >brought this up, I've been looked at as prejudice >toward the black race. I don't see how??? I am NOT >prejudice! But anyway, here goes: Every time I've >ever given a bed bath to a black resident, a brown >color would come off on to the white wash cloth! Why >in the world is that? It's like, if I just kept >washing, they'd eventually be lighter???? And how is >that prejudice? I am simply saying something odd that >I've encountered. It's puzzling. It certainly is, although I've had the same experience with white residents. With Occam's Razor in mind, a more simple explaination: Mebbe you're the only one there who's actually washing them! >As far as the faith healers go, I wasn't watching it, >John was, but I was listening in the background. I >just didn't feel it was necessary to go into the >details of how I heard it. Nevertheless, I was >listening, and do watch from time to time. I think >some of them are genuine. It 'is' Biblical. OK. So's "stoning". Actually, you could easily document the physical effect a stoning would have on the recipient, unlike faith-healing. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: oh boy Author: Prinncesss [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:32:46 01/08/02 Tue >I SWEAR this is true. Maybe >>you've experienced this. Now, every time I've ever >>brought this up, I've been looked at as prejudice >>toward the black race. I don't see how??? I am NOT >>prejudice! But anyway, here goes: Every time I've >>ever given a bed bath to a black resident, a brown >>color would come off on to the white wash cloth! Why >>in the world is that? It's like, if I just kept >>washing, they'd eventually be lighter???? And how is >>that prejudice? I am simply saying something odd that >>I've encountered. It's puzzling. > >It certainly is, although I've had the same experience >with white residents. With Occam's Razor in mind, a >more simple explaination: Mebbe you're the only one >there who's actually washing them! :( I knew I left for a reason. Thanks for the reminder. I hate those places man. I would never advise someone to put their loved one in a nursing home. There's good people in there, you and me perhaps, but not enough to compensate. I've reported many aides in my time, and some of the things they've done is just horrible! >>As far as the faith healers go, I wasn't watching it, >>John was, but I was listening in the background. I >>just didn't feel it was necessary to go into the >>details of how I heard it. Nevertheless, I was >>listening, and do watch from time to time. I think >>some of them are genuine. It 'is' Biblical. > >OK. So's "stoning". Actually, you could easily >document the physical effect a stoning would have on >the recipient, unlike faith-healing. By Biblical, I mean Godly, approved by God. Stoning is IN the Bible, as a part of history, but not advocated. Do you see the difference? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: He might "approve" it in theory, but in practice... Author: Secular Monkey [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:10:48 01/08/02 Tue >>>As far as the faith healers go, I wasn't watching it, >>>John was, but I was listening in the background. I >>>just didn't feel it was necessary to go into the >>>details of how I heard it. Nevertheless, I was >>>listening, and do watch from time to time. I think >>>some of them are genuine. It 'is' Biblical. >> >>OK. So's "stoning". Actually, you could easily >>document the physical effect a stoning would have on >>the recipient, unlike faith-healing. > >By Biblical, I mean Godly, >approved by God. Stoning is IN the Bible, as a part of >history, but not advocated. Do you see the >difference? No. There's been sooo many "healers" exposed by guys like James Randi, and there's yet to be a documented case of a successful "healing". If a "healer" hasn't been debunked yet, it's cause Randi hasn't gotten to him yet. Tell me you don't tune in to the "Psychic Hotline"! Well, at least the psychics on tv have a disclaimer stating that it's just for entertainment purposes. If you want the full scoop on faith healers, let me know. Their schemes are well documented. Lemme ask ya: if you could really heal people, wouldn't you hang out at a hospital instead of going on tv in a bad suit smackin' people in the forehead? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: And will you guys PLEASE start coming up with your own... Author: Secular Monkey [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:00:10 01/10/02 Thu message subjects! Just a little pet peeve of mine. : ) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: OK, but only if you'll Author: Prinncesss [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:57:20 01/10/02 Thu >message subjects! Just a little pet peeve of mine. : ) start making your portion of the posts distinct by making them bold or a different color. ;) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: you have trouble Author: Secular Monkey [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:05:23 01/10/02 Thu >start making your portion of the posts distinct by >making them bold or a different color. ;) recognising your own words? Well, there are all those >>>>> in front to help. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: If one can heal, what's the need for a hospital? Author: prinncesss [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:11:10 01/10/02 Thu >>>>As far as the faith healers go, I wasn't watching >it, >>>>John was, but I was listening in the background. I >>>>just didn't feel it was necessary to go into the >>>>details of how I heard it. Nevertheless, I was >>>>listening, and do watch from time to time. I think >>>>some of them are genuine. It 'is' Biblical. >>> >>>OK. So's "stoning". Actually, you could easily >>>document the physical effect a stoning would have on >>>the recipient, unlike faith-healing. >> >>By Biblical, I mean Godly, >>approved by God. Stoning is IN the Bible, as a part of >>history, but not advocated. Do you see the >>difference? > >No. There's been sooo many "healers" exposed by guys >like James Randi, and there's yet to be a documented >case of a successful "healing". If a "healer" hasn't >been debunked yet, it's cause Randi hasn't gotten to >him yet. Tell me you don't tune in to the "Psychic >Hotline"! Well, at least the psychics on tv have a >disclaimer stating that it's just for entertainment >purposes. If you want the full scoop on faith >healers, let me know. Their schemes are well >documented. Lemme ask ya: if you could really heal >people, wouldn't you hang out at a hospital instead of >going on tv in a bad suit smackin' people in the >forehead? And I'm sure they do go to hospitals. Haven't you ever seen clergy in a hospital or nursing home? I know a person who has the gift of healing, and have been healed by him several times. John, my bf has layed his hands on my head (I get chronic headaches) and I've felt my headache leave my head almost instantaniously. It's not worked every time, but more than not. I don't associate with miss cleo or any other nut that's offering to give me information I already know. I'm not a huge believer in televangelists and faith healers to even start this argument anyway Monkey. This is NOT one of my buttons so to speak. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Documented cases of healings Author: Prinn [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:26:45 01/10/02 Thu That is, besides me, and the double skull fracture I receieved when I was six weeks old: http://autoperl.skwc.com/chr_faithhealing.html http://www.bruno-groening.org/english/heilungen/welcomeheilungen.htm http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/healings.html [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: documented? Author: Secular Monkey [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:27:34 01/10/02 Thu Benny Hinn??? ROTFLMAO! This rip-off shyster has been de-bunked long ago. www.cephasministry.com/charismatics_behind_the_scenes.html Be careful of what you call "documented". And testimonies are fairly worthless. If I believe you when you say you were healed, I'd have to believe my neighbour who says he was abducted by aliens. Did you not receive medical attention when you were in your accident? Of course you did. Did you pull through, against the odds? Obviously. You attribute this to the supernatural? You could if you went to a church instead of a hospital but, fortunately, that ain't the case. BTW, last month a 4 year old boy was killed after coming out of his church and was struck by a car. Need I say more? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: tell your boyfriend to contact James Randi Author: Secular Monkey [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:08:32 01/10/02 Thu if he can prove that he can "heal", there's a big reward waiting for him (it's over a million bucks, now) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]