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Subject: Asim Author: S [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 10:43:22 03/19/02 Tue I got a very polite e-mail from Asim explaining why many people considered the guy who wrote that Friday Times article to be anti-Pakistani. I think Asim is a good guy. He just relies on these college students to moderate, and he can't always keep up with what they are doing...such as banning people over personal gripes rather than real violations. I wish they could see the impression they form. If you only had Alisha and Hina to go by, you would not hold much hope for Pakistan. I think a great deal of Sana and Mehreen, though. They seem like very genuine, open-minded people. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: Asim Author: Sanjay [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:22:47 03/19/02 Tue S, Asim may be a nice guy, but to say that all the moderators are college is incorrect. Jamshed Khan is a pretty old guy, Alisha is not a student and has been associated with PNS since beginning, Same is true for Hina. Aisha Sarwari is rather new but active and not at all a student. I think Alisha/Aisha/Hina/Jamshed and all others are full time paid employees of PNS, only person who is working volunteerily is PakistaniAbroad. Asim is very well aware of their actions and most of the time approves it. It is also obvious from the kind of inflammatory news we see on PNS

[> [> Subject: Re: Asim Author: S [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 05:13:54 03/20/02 Wed >S, >Asim may be a nice guy, but to say that all the >moderators are college is incorrect. Jamshed Khan is a >pretty old guy, Alisha is not a student and has been >associated with PNS since beginning, Same is true for >Hina. Aisha Sarwari is rather new but active and not >at all a student. > >I think Alisha/Aisha/Hina/Jamshed and all others are >full time paid employees of PNS, only person who is >working volunteerily is PakistaniAbroad. > >Asim is very well aware of their actions and most of >the time approves it. It is also obvious from the kind >of inflammatory news we see on PNS Are they paid employees? I didn't realize that. I thought they were volunteers. I'm pretty sure Aisha, Alisha and Sharmalee are students. I don't know about the others. I think Alisha and Jamshed have been the biggest problems. Sharmalee went on that one rampage where she banned every American in sight, but she's stayed pretty quiet since then. And, yes. There is a whole lot of inflammatory news on that site. Maybe Asim is just good at PR and not so nice after all. Who knows? He's always been nice to me.

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Asim Author: Philip Cyriac [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 07:01:29 03/20/02 Wed Asim knows what he's doing. PNS is nothing but a propoganda mill. Asim and co can't tell a true report if it came up and bit them! They have a few token Americans there - people like you and Kev who get banned every once so often and airheads like mandy and others like MedinaMan (who i think is a Paki in disguise).

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Asim Author: Sanjay [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:14:53 03/20/02 Wed S, Alisha,Hina and Sharmilee have been associated with PNS since beginning and are either partners or Paid employees of PNS. About How good Asim is - Well he has a News Service to Run and you can't expect him to be an IDIOT like Jamshed or Alisha. Also, Not to forget he is the Editor of PNS and anything which comes on PNS must be approved by him. btw here is a piece from one of the threads (FREEDOM OF PRESS IN PAKISTAN) by him :- (Posted by Mandy) This is what editor of Pakistan News Service who have their staff in Islamabad said about Freedom of Press in Pakistan on another thread... ttp://www.paknews.com/forumcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=20&t=000212 Asim Mughal senior Member Member # 569 Member Rated: posted March 18, 2002 07:17 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- hmm... really strange, sounds more like a la-la land story. Pakistan News Service has a major presence in Islamabad. We have not been hassled by either Pakistan Government directly or indirectly. In all fairness, the same goes for U.S. Govt. we have never been hassled by U.S. Govt. either. Neither governments have ever told us how to report, who to report and what to report for our news stories. =Asim +++++++++++++ Now this guy wants all of us to believe that there is no problem for Press in Pakistan and they enjoy complete Freedom. Of course He never had to face any problem - 1. Because PNS is not based in Pakistan but USA 2. Because PNS is very PRO PAK GOVT (Not Pro Pak as suggested by someone on the thread) 3. You can see how they will change their colors when Mushy goes. Anyways, I dont care what they think, because I have many Paki friends and they all are nice and very friendly. I was really surprised to see these bunch of educated Idiots who are basically selling HATRED (Be it India/Jew/America whoever). These bastards (except MOMIN)are worse than those Mullahs in Pakistan.

[> Subject: Re: Asim Author: Bannee [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:14:29 03/20/02 Wed Does Asim still require a phone call for Americans to get onto the PNS Board? That's paranoia in the extreme... not to mention an inordinate need to feel "in control". t It's also a handy excuse to keep reasonable people away... since the odds are that few will want to post badly enough to call.

[> [> Subject: Asim can kiss my ass Author: Philip Cyriac [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:15:47 03/20/02 Wed He and his pathetic board. It is really like South Park over there with characters like Alisha "Can't get laid" Imam, Jamshed "100,000 RAW agents have fu##ed my happiness" Khan, N('other) A(sshole) Khan and Dr.(Evil)Naveed etc. They can live in their cocoon. I just like to watch. >Does Asim still require a phone call for Americans to >get onto the PNS Board? That's paranoia in the >extreme... not to mention an inordinate need to feel >"in control". t It's also a handy excuse to keep >reasonable people away... since the odds are that few >will want to post badly enough to call.

[> [> Subject: Re: Asim Author: S [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 20:15:39 03/20/02 Wed >Does Asim still require a phone call for Americans to >get onto the PNS Board? That's paranoia in the >extreme... not to mention an inordinate need to feel >"in control". t It's also a handy excuse to keep >reasonable people away... since the odds are that few >will want to post badly enough to call. He didn't call me or ask me to call him when I e-mailed to request that I be allowed to post again. That was a couple of months after all the shit hit the fan with the Ban Americans Day hosted by Sharmalee. He did once call and leave a message on my machine while that was happening, though. And my "warnings" have been coming to my work e-mail which I find slightly freakish as the e-mail address I provided was an AOL address. I think I do this for a lot of the same reasons Kevin does...just to add a little variety from time to time. Besides, I think a few like Sana and Mehreen are nice people and trying to have friendly conversations with the token Americans.

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Asim Author: Philip Cyriac [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 20:19:27 03/20/02 Wed S, How the hell did they get a hold of your work email? This is sinister! I'm paranoid about privacy. Dang, I need a Gun!

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Asim Author: S [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 20:33:01 03/20/02 Wed >S, > >How the hell did they get a hold of your work email? >This is sinister! > >I'm paranoid about privacy. Dang, I need a Gun! I dunno. Either they traced the IP number or I e-mailed someone from it without thinking. I'm holding off on the sinister interpretation and sticking with slightly freakish for now. The slightly freakish part is even if I did e-mail someone from it, why the hell would they keep a record of it? I never gave that as my contact info. Bad enough that I got my school's block of IP numbers banned. You won't see too many teachers from Mississippi on that site. I've made sure of that. ;)

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Asim Author: Bannee [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 20:42:21 03/20/02 Wed These people are clearly paranoid... I just hope that's where it ends. More important than HOW they got yer work email (not hard at all since they have your full name, it doesn't take anything remotely brilliant to find an email of someone who had a site on the web). HOWEVER, **WHY** did they feel the need to seek out an email other than the one you provided? a) Very paranoid, but too stupid to keep the fact that they found your work email to themselves? b) Very paranoid, and hoping to intimidate with their "impressive" (giggle) cyber detective skills..they hope you'll freak and leave voluntarily if they "mysteriously" email you at an address you didnt give them c)Very paranoid. Thats all... just paranoid... and taking names and numbers in case some board poster tries to terrorize them. We are a pretty scarey crowd! ha ha

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Asim Author: S [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 20:58:46 03/20/02 Wed > >These people are clearly paranoid... I just hope >that's where it ends. More important than HOW they >got yer work email (not hard at all since they have >your full name, it doesn't take anything remotely >brilliant to find an email of someone who had a site >on the web). HOWEVER, **WHY** did they feel the need >to seek out an email other than the one you provided? > >a) Very paranoid, but too stupid to keep the fact that >they found your work email to themselves? > >b) Very paranoid, and hoping to intimidate with their >"impressive" (giggle) cyber detective skills..they >hope you'll freak and leave voluntarily if they >"mysteriously" email you at an address you didnt give >them > >c)Very paranoid. Thats all... just paranoid... and >taking names and numbers in case some board poster >tries to terrorize them. We are a pretty scarey >crowd! ha ha It wouldn't have been hard at all for them to get my e-mail address. It wouldn't have been unlikely at all that I gave it to them. I'm not concerned. I just go hmmmm when I get something from them at work. I'm actually more curious about why they refused to allow me to post an article from a Pakistani paper claiming that the Urdu press reported the death of Daniel Pearl differently than the English language press. That was a much longer hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Asim said the article was leftie propaganda. He was very polite about it, though.

[> Subject: Re: Asim Author: Ziggy [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:25:28 03/24/02 Sun Asim is (IMO, please note, not a humble in sight-lol) a twit, a paranoid twit, a control-freak, paranoid twit. A Viagra-popping, control-freak, paranoid twit with little man syndrome. Okay, I am done :) (hey, I gotta catch up!!)