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Date Posted: 09:44:24 02/11/03 Tue
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ndmt
's message, "VAI Y KIEN SAU BAI “ NEN CONG NGHIEP CAO HOC, TIEN SY TRONG NGANH KIEN TRUC”" on 22:02:36 02/07/03 Fri
Vai y lang bang sau khi doc bai “vai y kien..” cua ban ndmt
Kha lau toi khong tro lai dien dan, tu sau bai “Lang bang ve day va hoc kien truc “ ma 1 bang huu nao do da goi cho dien dan nay ( cung tu do ma toi biet den dien dan ). Gan day co doc 1 so bai viet, trong do co bai ve “Nen cong nghiep cao hoc, tien sy trong nganh kien truc “ cua Archicad va “ Vai y kien sau bai…..” cua ndmt. Hien dang song va lam viec tai My, toi xin co vai y kien ve bai viet cua ban Tuong nhu sau :
Ban Tuong viet kha ro ve he thong dao tao dai hoc, cung nhu cach thuc xin hoc MArch..
Xin noi them vai diem :
*Ve dao tao thi trong bai viet truoc toi da co noi qua, bang cap 4 nam BS Arch( Bachelor of Science in Architecture ) 5 nam BArch( Bachelor of Architecture ), sau do la MArch (Master of architecture)…., sau khi ban co bang 4 nam da co the di lam, va truoc day co 1 so truong hop co the thi lay bang sau nay. Hien thi muon thi bang hanh nghe sau nay, it nhat ban phai co bang 5 nam. Sau khi ban ra truong di lam , phai hoan tat IDP ( Intern Development Program )-trung binh do 3 nam tro len co the dap ung duoc cac doi hoi ( la kinh nghiem lam viec..) thi moi bat dau nop don xin thi bang KTS ( noi them la hien tai hau het, chu 0 phai tat ca cac tieu bang o My dau bat buoc phai hoan tat IDP moi duoc thi bang hanh KTS )
*Ban viet la “…de co the co cho dung trong 1 xa hoi canh tranh khoc liet nhu Hoa Ky thi Cu nhan Kien Truc chua du de co the nghi den cung nhu chua du tham quyen va nang luc nghe nghiep trong ly thuyet lan thuc hanh “…..”cac kts tu NAAB can tiep tuc hoc chuong trinh Cao Hoc”.
Theo toi thi y kien nay khong dung neu ban cho cu nhan la nguoi co bang Bachelor of Architecture ( xem them phan duoi khi noi ve MArch 2). Thu 1, khong co cai goi la “ kts tu NAAB”, thuong cac truong o day hau nhu deu duoc NAAB cong nhan chuong trinh dao tao ( la 1 loai tieu chuan kieu nhu tot nghiep chuong trinh dao tao truong nay la duoc cong nhan co chat luong ) nhu vay chi co nguoi co bang 4 nam hay 5 nam, muon hoc tiep thi hoc len MArch (1 hay 2 )hay PhD. Va day cung khong phai la dieu kien “can”. Khi ban ra di lam, neu co nang luc va du kinh nghiem, ban se co tham quyen ve thiet ke, con bang cap, sau 1 thoi gian di lam, it ai de y toi nua. Bao Hoa ky la noi canh tranh khoc liet, dieu do dung, va cung boi vay, ho rat thuc dung, nghia la ban lam duoc viec, thi ban se duoc trong dung, noi 1 cach don gian nhat la vay. Di lam co khac voi di day, va cung nhu nhung bo mon nghe thuat khac, hoi hoa hay dieu khac chang han, kha nang cua mot nguoi the hien o thanh qua ho tao ra. Neu ban di lam o day, co bang cap that cao, nhung thieu kinh nghiem va/hay kha nang thiet ke khong manh bang nhung nguoi khac trong hang, thi ban se 0 phai la nguoi quyet dinh ve thiet ke. ( han nhien neu ban la chu cua mot hang thi lai khac, ban co quyen lam theo y minh . Con noi chung, o 1 hang lon, khi co cong trinh hay tham du cuoc thi kien truc nao do, ho se thanh lap 1 nhom ma ho thay co kha nang phu hop voi loai cong trinh, de bao dam la co chat luong cao 1 de canh tranh , doi khi khoi dau = hop nhom, moi nguoi co y rieng trinh bay sau 1 thoi gian ngan, sau do tong hop lai hay chon y manh nhat ma khai trien)
Noi them la toi chi muon noi ban khong nhat thiet phai co bang Master de co “tham quyen va nang luc..” con hoc them, di nhien la mot dieu tot. Hoc them o truong, gan lien voi nang cao kien thuc ve ly thuyet hon la thuc hanh ( thuc hanh thi moi truong tot nhat la di lam, dung cham thuc te cong viec , noi nhu vay, di lam cung la dang …di hoc tiep, hoc mai ,vi co qua nhieu cai moi , neu may man lam voi KTS gioi thi ban se hoc duoc vo so dieu hay, ca ve y do cung nhu ve kinh nghiem thuc te. Noi nhu vay , moi ben deu co cai hay cua no, ban khong bat buoc phai hoc Cao hoc de co the thanh KTS “cao” hon kts khac.
*Ve cach thuc xin hoc MArch, ban noi kha chi tiet, cac ban khac muon biet them co the vao website cac truong o day ,va co the hoi xin catalogue ve truong, cung nhu ve chuong trinh hoc, thanh phan giao vien….
Ve GRE thi gom toan va anh van, toan thi phan lon la ve logic ( khong cao cap nhu toan”cao cap” o VN !) Cai nay 1 so truong cung khong doi hoi nua, nhu Columbia la 1 dai hoc noi tieng cung 0 can GRE theo toi biet. Co le cai quan trong 1 de truong nhan ban vao chuong trinh hoc cao hoc cua ho la Portfolio va thu gioi thieu.
Portfolio o day rat quan trong, vi no co the hien phan lon nang luc cua ban ( xin hoc, thi nang luc ve thiet ke la quan trong ) .Ca khi xin hoc tiep hay xin di lam.,sau khi coi resume, ban hoc truong nao bang cap gi, nguoi ta se quyet dinh nhan ban hay khong khi thay do an ban da lam. ( va kinh nghiem cua ban, neu la truong hop xin di lam )
*Chuong trinh hoc master ban Tuong cung tom gon du, noi them la cac nguoi co bang cap o cac nganh khac khi chuyen qua hoc kien truc, thuong la theo chuong trinh hoi khac, ngan hon. Vi du ban hoc kien truc tu dau se mat 5 nam chang han, thi nguoi co bang cap o nganh khac se hoc 3nam, 3nam ruoi de co master ve kien truc.. ( trong bai cua ban Tuong co the vi du ve MArch1 ) nhu vay that ra so ve “hit tho khong khi kien truc” thi truong hop nay nguoi co bang 5 nam “hit tho “ nhieu hon so voi nguoi kia, tuy la ho co bang master.
Nguoi da co bang 5 nam ve kien truc se theo MArch2, ngan hon so voi nguoi co bang o nganh khac theo chuong trinh MArch1
* Vi du cua ban Tuong ve : Nguyen Van A, B.Arch, Kansas U, M.Arch Cornell, M.Arch GSD
Noi them, MArch 2 la chuong trinh danh cho nguoi co bang 5 nam (4 +1) hay master (4+2) ve kien truc, phan lon la sau 1 thoi gian di lam quay ve hoc them
Hien tai no la 3 mua hoc ( 1.5 nam ). Noi ro them la nguoi co master o day di hoc them chuong trinh MArch2 la tu cac truong 0 co chuong trinh MArch2. Cu nhan (khoa hoc ) kien truc 4 nam, khong duoc coi la professional degree, 5 nam ( co bang BS 4 nam, hoc them 1 nam ) hay 6 nam ( BS + 2nam )moi tinh la professional degree. Va MArch2 ( o Harvard va 1 so truong khac co chuong trinh nay ) la post-professional . Trong bai viet truoc toi co de cap den, la tung co nhung cuoc tranh cai ve bang BArch va MArch, cac truong phan lon la theo loi 4+2, it truong co chuong trinh BArch 5 nam, va tung co y kien la tuong lai nen thong nhat theo he 4+2 ma thoi. Dieu nay toi noi ra day cung muon lam ro hon y ban Tuong ve cu nhan va master, y ban noi ( cu nhan chua du tham quyen…), so sanh giua bang cap BS Arch ( Bachelor of Science in Architecture ) va Master thi dung hon, vi neu ban chi co bang BS, thi phai hoc len nua , de co BArch la it nhat moi co the thi bang kts sau nay.
Ban rat ca ngoi Harvard, ( khong biet ban co biet ai, hay ban than da hoc o truong ) toi khong co y kien, vi day la 1 truong co tieng ai cung biet , san sinh ra nhieu kts gioi. Chi xin noi them la ngoai Harvard con nhieu truong o My va the gioi rat noi tieng khong thua kem nua…Trong cac kts ban ke ra , bao GSD la noi hoi tu cua ho ( that ra o day nhieu truong moi cac KTS noi tieng ve giang day , nhat la cac truong co tieng ,doi dao ve tai chinh - phan lon la thinh giang vi ho deu co hang va cong trinh rieng, chinh hon la di day ) co may nguoi ban nghi hay biet la tung duoc dao tao o GSD ?
(Mo ngoac o day la trong so ten tuoi ban viet ra, toi nghi la ban da danh may lon ? ,toi nghi ban muon noi den …Herzog va De Meuron ( la cap bai trung nguoi Thuy Si ) ( chu khong phai Meuron. Heczog )
* Ve cac nhan xet cua ban “ Duoc goi la kts GSD la 1 niem tu hao….neu ngay nao do ban gioi thieu minh nhu tren co nghia la ban da di het Con Duong Hoc Kien Truc…” cung nhu
“ dieu nay co nghia rang neu ban co PhD tai Harvard co nghia la ban da tham nhap vao cai the gioi cua kien truc. Hay noi cach khac ban la mot Con-Nguoi-Kien-Truc, giong nhu nguoi lam tho khi da di vao coi tho thi goi la Thi si “
Theo toi biet, 0 co cai duoc goi la, hay ai tu gioi thieu minh o My la “ kts GSD “ ca.
Dung la ban nen tu hao ve truong dao taocua minh, nhat la do la mot truong noi tieng the gioi nhu Harvard, nhung cai do hau nhu ban chi doc thay trong resume hay tieu su cua cac tay kts tung duoc dao tao o Harvard ma thoi, chang ai goi minh la kts GSD ca, hau het cac business card o day chi de ten, them AIA ( hay FAIA…) ( thanh vien hoi KTS hoa ky, la danh xung kieu nhu VN minh de “Nguyen van A, KTS”, nghia la ten minh roi den danh xung hanh nghe…) chu toi chua thay ai de master, hay GSD duoi ten cua minh ca ( toi biet co 1 so kts o VN de them bang cap vao card cua ho, nhu master, hay PhD architect… theo toi thi tuy nguoi, sao cung duoc vi do la card ho lam, do la ca nhan moi nguoi, toi khong dam gop y ) Do la noi theo cai biet cua toi, hien va da lam chung voi nhieu thay co, dan anh, va dong nghiep.. Au A My duoc dao tao tu nhieu truong kien truc tu Au va My, trong do co Harvard.
Di het ” con duong hoc kien truc “ ?, toi cho la ban noi hoi qua loi, dinh nghia the nao la Con Duong Hoc Kien Truc ? neu ban chi dinh nghia theo nghia rat hep la hoc o truong, thi co le duoc, hoc den do roi cung nen di lam, hay di day ( con hoc cao nua, PhD cung chi chuyen sau 1 nganh, lich su kt, hay qui hoach…, nguoi ta co the co vai PhD co le cung chua biet co dam tu xung la ..di het con duong hoc kien truc chua )
Hay the nao goi la Con-Nguoi-Kien-Truc ? ( hay so sanh nguoi lam tho khi di vao coi tho thi goi la Thi Si ?) cai nay theo toi mong lung lam, xin khong ban o day. ( neu ban bao 1 nguoi co PhD tai Harvard la 1 Con- Nguoi –Kien- Truc, vay nguoi khong co PhD o Harvard thi sao ?)
Co bang cao hoc hay cao hon, o day di day duoc neu duoc nhan, va co nhieu nguoi chi di day, khong lam cong trinh that. Ho van co the la nhung nguoi dong gop dao tao ra nhieu kts gioi, ho co the co anh huong lon den cac kts qua cach nghi, cac bai viet ve ly thuyet, cac do an “ thu nghiem “ cua ho. Cac kien truc su lam cong trinh va noi tieng, neu ban doc ve ho, hiem ai co bang PhD, hau het la Master va B.Arch. Nhu vay cung co 1 ranh gioi nao do giua hai gioi nay, han nhien la ben canh con nhieu nguoi vua co hang rieng vua di day. O truong sinh vien duoc hoc nhieu cai, ly thuyet lan thuc hanh nhung chi den khi ra lam ho moi va cham thuc te, tham gia lam cong trinh that, va day, doi voi nhieu nguoi moi that su la “mai truong” quan trong 1. Va tu day ho se tiep tuc hoc hoi khong ngung …( cho den khi ve huu ,co le )
*Y kien cua ban ve luan an cao hoc o Viet Nam, roi vien dan vi du “thiet ke cua nhung nguoi da co bang Master chang khac gi voi thiet ke cua sinh vien, cac kts thong thuong…, khong noi len 1 concept of design nao ca…” toi thay cung co mat nen ban. O day chi xin noi chung ve nhan xet nay thoi, khong ban den van de day va hoc Cao hoc o Viet Nam ( toi cung co nhieu ban be o VN hoc xong Cao hoc, va co nguoi day lai o truong DHKT )……O My hay toi nghi o dau cung vay, bao 1 nguoi co bang master phai co design concept hay thiet ke khac hon, hay hon “kts thuong “ hay sinh vien la 1 so sanh rat han hep trong cach suy nghi. Kien truc la 1 nganh nghe thuat va khoa hoc, noi ve nghe thuat thi y tuong hay, y tuong doc dao, khong theo trinh tu kinh nghiem hay gia tre, bang cap cao thap, 1 sinh vien nam 3 co the co nhieu y hay hon sinh vien nam 5 chang han, hay 1 nguoi moi ra truong co the co y tuong ve cong trinh ho tham gia lam hay hon cac kts kinh nghiem nhieu nam…nhu vay cai design concept la cai gan voi “ ta`i hoa “, “thien phu “ hon la kinh nghiem (design concept manh thuong cung bat nguon tu kinh nghiem hoc va lam viec nhung 0 nhat thiet phai nhu vay ) cai buoc tiep tuc, la phat trien design concept do thanh cong trinh that, thi can noi den kinh nghiem va kien thuc qua thoi gian lam viec.
Thi gio han hep, lang bang vai nhan xet nhu vay mong rang lam sang to them vai van de trong bai viet cua ban Tuong, cung nhu noi them ve cai toi biet qua qua trinh ban than hoc va lam o xu nay .
Bai cua ban Tuong trinh bay kha du tong quat ve chuong trinh hoc chung he Master, va chung to su quan tam den van de nay sau bai viet cua ban Archicad, toi thay co nhieu y de cac ban trong dien dan biet them cung nhu trao doi ve van de chuong trinh Cao hoc o Viet Nam. Neu co dieu kien toi xin tro lai 1 dip khac, viec cai to day va hoc o Viet Nam la 1 van de phuc tap va khong the thay doi 1 som 1 chieu. Cung nhu bai viet truoc ve day va hoc kien truc, toi chi hi vong rang cac ban tre lua sau nay cung nhu cac thay co co tam huyet o cac truong dai hoc kien truc thay nhung cai hay, cai dang lam ma thuc day de lam thay doi cach dao tao sinh vien theo chieu huong coi mo hon. Va hi vong rang lop kien truc su tre sau nay se co nhieu nguoi dem lai nhung luong gio moi cho kien truc Viet Nam. Han nhien do chi la 1 phan nho, phan con lai la ca co che , he thong xay dung, xet duyet, dan tri, cac co quan co tham quyen…Kien truc, tu y tuong den cong trinh that, o dau cung vay, bi anh huong boi rat nhieu yeu to, co nhieu cai ngoai tam kiem soat cua nguoi kts, chi co cach lam tot nhat trong dieu kien co the (ve tai chinh, thoi gian…cua khach hang , do la chua ke den xet duyet, canh tranh phia sau …xay ra nhieu nhu o Viet Nam chang han).
Tom lai , y chinh ma toi muon noi la : hoc them, hoc cao la 1 dieu tot hau nhu ai co dieu kien cung thich, nhat la hoc o truong co tieng, hay co nhieu thay co , ban be gioi se hoc duoc rat nhieu. Nhung neu bao phai hoc master de co tham quyen va kha nang quyet dinh thi toi khong nghi la dung . Khi ban da co professional degree va ra di lam, cung la ban dang “di hoc “ them do, hoc o so hay quay lai hoc o truong deu co nhung cai hay cua no, va bang cap khong phai la cai chung minh hay khang dinh duoc kha nang thiet ke cua 1 kts. Van de dao tao co 2 phia, phia dao tao va phia duoc dao tao. Nhung truong kien truc hang nam van cho ra nhung kts gioi va kts trung binh.., du la 1 truong noi tieng co nhu Harvard chang han ( dem Harvard ra vi du, phan vi ban than toi co dip lam chung voi vai nguoi co bang master o truong nay, cung vi ban Tuong de cap chu yeu la Harvard ) Be hoc menh mong, va ve nghe thuat , theo y toi, toi khong tin la ai do co the day ban thanh 1 nha thiet ke loi lac ca, co chang la khoi goi cho ban anh sang 1 con duong, con hoan toan la o kha nang cua ban ( nghe thuat thuong dinh dang nen cai nguoi ta goi la thien phu , theo toi cung dung 1 phan ) Cong trinh cua mot kien truc su se la thuoc do kha nang cua ho ( trong dieu kien cho phep phat trien dung y do cua minh , neu khong thi kha nang cung co the boc lo qua cach nghi, qua y do va cach phat trien no , du la cong trinh xay khong nhu y vi cac ly do khong kiem soat duoc ) Bang cap cung la 1 thu thuoc do ve hoc van , va no cung lam nguoi ta tu hao, nhung no chi that su duoc danh gia dung muc neu ban lam nen duoc gi do tot dep, cho do la cong trinh that, hay dong gop ve ly thuyet, ve giang day cho lop tre….
Co le toi hoi lang bang qua mot chut, ve nhung cai ban Archicad neu ra, cung nhu y tra loi cua ban ndmt toi deu thay co nhung y co ly. Nhu da noi, day, hoc lien quan den ca co che dai hoc, toi khong dam ban o day. Neu bao dua ra y kien ca nhan thi toi thay qua la van de thi de hoc Cao hoc o VN cung khong thuc te, neu ban ra di lam, co khi nao ban nhin lai chuong trinh hoc may nam o truong de xem minh hoc toan cao cap , ma tran…co ap dung trong viec lam hien tai ? Xin khong dong dai hon ve cac van de nay.
Ngoai kha nang, thi Yeu nghe, do la cai quan trong, neu ban hoc them vi muon mo mang kien thuc, hi vong nang cao tay nghe cho ban than de thiet ke hay hon tot hon, de truyen dat cho sinh vien (neu ban tham gia giang day) , thi do la dieu dang tran quy va khich le. Con neu hoc chi de co bang cap de khoe , de loe thi do la dieu dang buon cho chinh ban than ban va cho “moi truong kien truc “ ma ban gop phan tao nen……nhu hai ban ndmt va Archicad da de cap, cung nhu toi nghe tu cac ban toi va bao chi o Viet Nam( ai cung muon duoc goi la master, bang cap gia, nho nguoi khac lam hay sao chep luan an…..)
Vai hang voi hai ban va nhung ai quan tam. Hi vong la duong loi dao tao, chuong trinh hoc ( tu nam 1 cung nhu hau dai hoc ) o Viet Nam se thay doi theo chieu huong mo rong va thuc te, chat luong hon.
Nam moi, cung xin chao cac ban trong nhom chu truong va cac ban tham gia dien dan, hi vong la se co nhieu bai , trao doi hay trong thoi gian toi.
Dinh Truong Giang
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