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Date Posted: 11:11:08 03/02/05 Wed
Author: Nick T.
Subject: Re: questions
In reply to: TONY LANG 's message, "Re: questions" on 07:50:35 03/02/05 Wed

I think you are right, I did some talking past that person, not communicating. The rank and file member, if a normal and ordinary person, should express shock and dismay at the old stories about ubf. I will be more sensitive to these visitors. I just can't tolerate the broad brush tactics of 'ubf ahs changed totally, we are the best again.' That is simply a deception.

I just felt that if the newer member wants to come here and say that ubf has changed so much, then there should be tears of repentance all over the place. My observation is that nothing has changed except some small changes in surface behaviors. But after hearing about Phillip and the young man in KC and the young man in Columbus, maybe nothing at all has changed?

I know that nothing has changed among the ubf leaders. The ubf leaders have always been the problem at ubf. And because of this, nobody should follow these people. No young person should justify recruiting others to ubf to be subjected to these very corrupted ubf leaders.

When the ubf leaders repent, then ubf as we know it should cease to exist. You know what I mean? God bless.

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