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Date Posted: 06:16:39 07/14/04 Wed
Author: sader1970
Subject: Generational Gaps
In reply to: Zipp 's message, "And If We Don't Get In?" on 08:57:41 07/13/04 Tue

Looks like we've moved on from sports to "who remembers what about Holy Cross?"

I can understand someone not knowing Fr. Reidy, who taught me history and in addition to being an assistant/chaplin for the football team and was the head lacrosse coach, if my memory serves, when I was at HC. Fr. Reedy was president for 4 years in between Fr. Brooks and Frank Vellaccio's extended tenure as acting president and before Fr. McFarland. Fr. Reedy came the year the class of '98 were first year students and left the year they graduated (how's THAT for trivia?).

I had Fr. Lapomarda for one class but sure don't remember anyone ever calling him "Lap." Maybe someone could look up the records but I think he had just gotten there when I had him.

I would have guessed Fr. Labran but it would have been a guess. I didn't know him and only years later when my son was there did I realize he was a big deal on campus. When I was there, Fr. Hart was the "heart" of Holy Cross and much beloved (and coincidentally, the priest who officiated at my parents wedding). I'm sure Pitt65 and others like me would have known any Fr. Hart references but not Fr. Labran references. It's a generational thing. Pitt, did you ever have "B+ McCann" for English? HE was a legend. He made a tobacco auctioneer appear to be a slow talker. He could tell you stories of Lou Sockalexis, Bullet Bill Osmanski and 4 other stories about Holy Cross and STILL cover all the material he was supposed to within a normal class period.

I believe "training table" for the football players in my day was for game day only. The remainder of the time, my recollection was they ate with the rest of us. However, the food was considered excellent by institutional standards in those days. I can tell you about having t-bone steaks about once a week that were among the best I've had. Even the "hockey puck" hamburgers weren't too bad.

This whole thread has been like those "blue book" trivia questions that HC used to put out periodically for the alumni. As the years go by, I knew the answer to fewer and fewer questions but that doesn't make me a fraud.

Holy Cross is 167 year old and if anyone thinks that the college hasn't evolved over those years, they are mistaken. Like any other institution, it is made up of people and a product of its time.

Although there are probably a number of people on this board who aren't alums or who aren't what they hold themselves out to be, let's be careful about labeling anyone a fraud because they don't remember/recall some bit of HC lore.

By the way, I'm still betting that HC makes the ECAC hockey.

You can all jump on me if I'm wrong.

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[> [> Re: FB training tables -- pitt65, 07:27:05 07/14/04 Wed

sader1970: In the 60s when I was there, in addition to day of game, there were football training tables 2 or 3 days a week during season. It was considered a "plum" assignmment for a student-waiter at Kimball such as yours truly who worked those tables in addition to the regular dinner assignment. You got extra punches on your grant-in-aid time card for the work, and got to know the coaches and the players who you didn't know from class or the dorms. And it was amazing how often the cooks at Kimball "accidentally" cooked a number of extra steaks that coincidentally equalled the number of waiters.

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[> [> Re: Fr Reidy Story -- KY Crusader '75, 07:59:47 07/14/04 Wed

Fr Maurice Reidy lived in my dorm, Wheeler. The story was told that he had been a lacrosse star in college and also that he had led the nation in punting. I don't know whether either was true. I know he worked out with or helped coach the lacrosse team. At one HC home football game in the early 1970's, one of the game officials failed to show up or got injured. Fr Reidy was pressed into service to officiate, which he did with the zebra shirt on over his cassock. It made for an impressive sight.

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[> [> HC is... -- HC1843, 08:51:12 07/14/04 Wed

161 years old, not 167, but that is splitting hairs. Things change, memories differ but are true to the individual who attended at his or her time. I am sure that we can all recount stories that hold true today, and many that have changed since.

As to Fr. Lapomarda. When I went to the Cross, he was known as "Lapdog". I took him for one class and in my opinion certain people, cough...football players...cough...were favored over others.

Man, I wish I could have been at Kimball when the food was actually good. Upper Kimball was universally despised in my day, with Lower Kimball barely passing muster. This being said, Upper Kimball was a blast for Thanksgiving and Christmas meals, which were special occassions for all...otherwise it was bad. I used to work in the bowels of Kimball and can tell you all some nightmare stories about the food, as well as confirm the security system protected liquor cooler.

There is even a reason, an unfortunate one at that, why the stairwell in Hogan was sealed off during the renovation.

Cheers.

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[> [> [> Re: HC is... -- sader1970, 11:00:19 07/14/04 Wed

Well, 1843, I got caught again. Not being a math major and being too lazy, I used a calculator to figure out the exact age of HC. But, my failing eyesight and darkened room (so as not to wake up the spouse) caused me to misread the last digit.

As to the quality of food, it's all a matter of expectations. 1843, you might be Italian with a mother who cooks like the finest restaurants on Federal Hill in Providence. I, on the other hand, had an Irish mother who food was simply fuel for the body. Kimball was probably a step up for me and down for you!

Lower Kimball, when I started, was still used for the post office and Dean of Men's office (like if you wanted a pass to leave the campus at night).

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