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Date Posted: 08:35:18 06/25/04 Fri
Author: sader1970
Subject: Re: Colgate gets new AD
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sader1970
's message, "Colgate gets new AD" on 06:39:38 06/25/04 Fri
I'm impressed that colgate 13 saw fit to respond to my post on BOTH the HC board and the Colgate board.
I'm not going to post my entire response back to 13 that I put on the 'gate board but my sources are wide and deep about Mr. Roach from the Brown athletic dept., president's office and HR department. If he wasn't "pushed", he jumped before he was pushed. I respect Colgate too much to think that they could have done much better.
For those on the board that are not Regan supporters (I am) - things could be a lot worse, we could have Roach as our AD.
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thanks for the clarification -- colgate13, 08:52:08 06/25/04 Fri
no hard feelings.
It's just based on my sources you're making him sound much worse than we think he is. I'm suggesting maybe the problem wasn't Roach but rather the president, etc.
What's funny also is you're also giving the same description that a lot would have given about our last AD. He did just fine.
In the end, only time will tell! But I'd rather have Roach than Regan!
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Re: thanks for the clarification -- sader1970, 09:14:43 06/25/04 Fri
Don't worry, 13, no offense taken.
And you may very well be right. Perhaps Brown was "too soft" and this guy is more "kick-ass" and that's what Colgate waants.
Having lived in Columbus when Gordon Gee was heading up Ohio State and then went to Brown (I live in RI), I was not surprised that Brown got into NCAA troubles. At the time, I attributed it to Gee's leadership as he is really focused on athletics and winning and rules violations was a way of life at OSU. He seemed to try to run Ivy League Brown like OSU. Then he bailed for Vanderbilt. The article implies Roach had responsibility for Brown's violations and certainly as AD, he has to take that responsibility. I'm still waiting for Vandy to be hit with violations now that Gee is there but these usually take some time to surface.
Just hope Roach/Colgate don't succumb to a win at any cost mentality.
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Colgate won't succomb. -- Gate Raider, 00:05:02 06/27/04 Sun
Every year 'gate has athlete prospects in each sport that simply can't get by the admission's academic requirements not matter how hard the coach may try. 'gate's president firmly backs this policy. You may know that J. Branch the Peyton award winner last year and leading rusher in the nation had to sit out a year because his grades weren't up to par. The same thing happened this year to their second leading rusher who will return this year.
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Why admit them in first place?? -- Dover, 11:15:39 06/27/04 Sun
If these players have had to sit out seasons due to poor grades, I'd suggest that they should not have been admitted to your fine university in the first place....
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Sometimes youthful enthusiasm -- Gate Raider, 00:30:52 06/28/04 Mon
and confidence can result in not paying attention to what is really important. That doesn't mean they were not qualified in the first place.
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