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Subject: We have settled in to our routine Author: Shelly [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: Thursday, November 20, 2025, 08:03: am AV and all. Well things are going so smooth now. No drama, all kids pooping at least once a day. We are all on a twice monthly clean out now. We are doing them on Sat. Kitten Paw you were right. Sitter gives my boys their enemas in the morning after they have been up for a while. Sitter's friend comes over here a lot to hang out with her because sitter doesn't have a car now to go places on her own. So her friend showed up about a half hour before sitter knows my boys need their enemas last Saturday. I didn't say anything. I know it was all planned. Her friend was with her for the boy's enemas. I couldn't wait to see if she was going to stay for sitter's enemas. Kind of hoping she would at this point. But she left shortly after lunch. I just let it go didn't say anything to sitter. But they are working it up to her friend getting an enema here just like your BFF did. I'm looking forward to it. Are they going to let me give it to her or are they going to give each other their enemas. When I was a teen Kitten Paw we would rather you cut our right arm off than for our friend to even know we got enemas. I wondered for years going through high school if any of my friends found out about my enemas and just were too embarrassed to say anything. Years later I told my best friend about my clean outs from step mom and she said she never knew so I guess none of my friends knew and unlike you, I don't want them to know. I haven't even told any of my Drs. about my childhood clean outs and how I was traumatized about them at first but grew to accept them and actually wanted them when I wasn't getting them any more. To this day I would like to go back just one time and relive that first time she came in my bedroom with that toilet chair and I knew what was about to happen. Why do we want to relive those moments when we hated them so much at the time? [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: We have settled in to our routine Author: Joyce [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, November 20, 2025, 05:48: pm Shelly Glad to hear sitter is back with you, but so sad about what happened at the boarding school. Here are some suggestions (not to be confused with the legal term 'medical advice') to help you establish or refine your routine for her (and your boys): Metamucil: (I prefer Miralax because it is a fine granular almost powder like substance that is easy to measure and chemically inert but carries water to the colon without leaving a deposit on the colon walls that builds up with long-term use the way Metamucil does.): Best taken at the same time each day (preferably breakfast with milk or fruit juice). Because changes in dose take a day or more to have effect it is important to only make slight changes in dosage every 2-3 days to avoid over-correcting. Small changes over time will help you gain the control you want. Clean outs: Once a month (or perhaps more often if you use Metamucil) you should give her a thorough clean out: (this maybe somewhat of a review). Start with a small enema / suppository to empty her rectum. Then slowly give her a large very warm soap and water enema using your nozzle gently inserted well up into her sigmoid colon with an amount sufficient to ensure the soap gets well up into her colon and then retained for 10 minutes. Follow this with two rinse enemas each with volume equal or slightly larger than the soap enema. Tell her you understand that this is unpleasant and quite uncomfortable, and try to help her understand this is necessary to maintain the effectiveness of the Metamucil/Miralax. She needs to understand that this should not be skipped or postponed because she feels the Metamucil is working OK. Don't change the Metamucil dosage for 2-3 days after the clean out. Hugs to all of you. Hope all continues well. I leave the logistics to you. - Joyce [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: We have settled in to our routine Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, November 20, 2025, 08:17: pm Shelly, Thanks for the update. First how are the boys doing with sitter back at the wheel giving the enemas? I am sure they are still over the moon. I guess they did not mind someone else, the friend, being in there? Kitten paw has been right on about it all. Sitter and friend are indeed plotting. This will be interesting to see how it plays out. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: We have settled in to our routine Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, November 21, 2025, 08:59: am Joyce, as per your and my many discussions months and months ago the clean outs go almost exactly as you just wrote. All three have to empty their rectum because we use the nozzle that we insert past the rectum and to the start of the sigmoid section. They get a soapy enema and two rinses. That's why we clean out our two boys in the morning on Saturdays because this takes about three hours for each child start to finish and bedtime enemas go too late into the night. Sitter is allowed to sleep in on Sunday mornings so it is not that big of an issue for her to clean her out in the evening plus she doesn't seem to mind but I don't care for my boys to be so curious about her enemas. On her weekends that I don't clean her out she goes home for the weekend after school and is dropped off at school on Monday morning. We do Metamucil and not Miralax mainly because the FDA has not approved the use of Miralax on children. And does not approve of daily long term use of miralax even in adults. Metamucil is natural fiber. I like that. She will tell me if she has pooped at school and I believe her but she is such a good holder that she usually poops shortly after dinner her in the evening. I think she can poop or not poop depending on her mood at the moment. Her daily Metamucil insures that the stool is there for he to do with as she sees fit. Which unfortunetly for so many years now has been to withhold it until she smears her underwear. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: We have settled in to our routine Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, November 21, 2025, 09:18: am AV, I'm the one that is over the moon that she has again taken over their clean outs. Six hours to clean two kids out pretty much wastes a day that I could be accomplishing other things. They didn't fight me any more but they made it clear that I was mean still. They don't like enemas! But..... they like sitter so that some how makes it okay and that works for me. I was busy getting some fall planting of flower bulbs in my flower bed that was several weeks late so I was outside and actually thought that sitter's friend had left before my boy's enemas started. So I have no idea what my boys thought of it but if they are getting attention from sitter then all is okay from what I have observed in the past. I know I often find out that they have pooped from her because they tell her first. I don't know if sitter's friend really wants an enema clean out or if she is satisfied in helping giving our boy's their enemas. I guess time will tell. If she has indeed had suppositories then she may be curious about getting an enema clean out. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: We have settled in to our routine Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Saturday, November 22, 2025, 03:43: am Shelly, Tell us a little about the friend, what you know. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: We have settled in to our routine Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2025, 02:26: pm AV, very little actually. Her parents have money though because she drives a nice though quite old Lexus. Old is a relative term when you talk about Lexus cars. My husband's boss's wife drives a 2011 Lexus RX 350. And I am jealous. It is an awesome car. Only been in it twice but it is the most awesome car I have ever been in. Maybe I have led a sheltered life, I don't know, but my world has always been pontiacs or fords and one already wore out used Camry. Anyway, I digress, they come here after school in her Lexus and they are all smiles and giddy and happy. Friend is very self confident and out going and is the leader of the two. Dark black hair, maybe European or Italian. Beautiful girl. And it is not over the top but she dresses goth. Black or dark clothing, sometimes black lip stick, black nails. And I guess she is quite the singer. I've heard them down stairs and that girl can sing. She is taller than sitter but that doesn't take much because sitter just is short. I don't know if her withholding and likely awful diet for all these years growing up has affected her growth but her mom isn't that short. But any mom would be proud to call this young thing her daughter. She is very respectful of adults, she listens, interacts appropriately, and has a cute sense of humor. And I want to give her a good clean out so bad I've given myself a couple of clean outs thinking about her and wishing I was her getting a clean out from the mom (me). [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: We have settled in to our routine Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, November 24, 2025, 03:28: am Shelly, Sitter must have opened up to her friend a little since she stayed for the boys’ enemas. Friend must have known. Probably don’t know about sitter’s enemas but she might. Your wish came true last time when you first mentioned sitter wishing you could give her an enema. You didn’t know sitter was getting enemas, who knows, friend may be getting enemas as well. If that is true, I expect through time if friend is there for an enema experience with sitter, she will get one either from you or sitter. The plot thickens. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: We have settled in to our routine Author: Joyce [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Saturday, November 22, 2025, 04:31: pm Shelly, I think you made a wise choice to give your boys their clean outs on Saturday morning and wait to give sitter hers on Saturday evening. This relieves some time pressure and I think more importantly gives you time with sitter alone in the bathroom to talk with you more freely during her clean out without the boys present. I also believe you understand the importance of routine clean outs to maintain the effectiveness of the Metamucil and remove residues that build up in the kid's colons from the Metamucil and poor dietary habits. So good for you and don't be tempted to skip or postpone the clean outs because the Metamucil seems to be working well. I have a question for you: How much soap do you mix in the water for the cleansing enemas and how much of the soap and water solution do you give to each child? I assume sitter gets more than the boys because her colon is larger due to her age and her long history of holding. I also have another suggestion for you that modifies the procedure outlined in my previous post: Instead of using a fixed amount of the soapy water in the bag for the cleansing enemas, fill the bag full and hang it just 18 inches above the child's anus. With the nozzle fully inserted open the tubing shut-off slightly to allow a slow flow. Pinch the tubing as needed to interrupt the flow to help manage any cramping. The low bag placement will result in a low gentle pressure that will fill the entire colon and the flow will stop when the colon is full. This will ensure that the soap is distributed uniformly all the way up in the colon for improved results without injury that might otherwise result from overfilling. Hugs to all and I hope all of you have a great Thanksgiving! - Joyce [ Post a Reply to This Message ]