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Date Posted: 07:14:46 07/19/06 Wed
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Subject: Re: Re-iteration-waiting
In reply to: Mormon 210 's message, "Re-iteration-waiting" on 08:26:51 07/14/06 Fri

1) You are a member of a cult.

2) You are completely brainwashed.

3) No amount of debate or other tactics to reveal the truth to you will convince you otherwise.

4) To argue with you is pointless, as you create straw men and red herrings on a continual basis. I do not need to point out specifics for you to counter with argument. Reason: See #2 and #3 above.

Hopefully others will not fall into the false religion that is Mormonism, based on your lies and your persuasive silver-tongue.

You are an attorney?

Nuff said. :)

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[> [> Re: Re-iteration-waiting -- Mormon 210, 08:49:04 07/19/06 Wed

I find it ironic that you express to me how Mormons use sex to convert members and the application of Marketing 101 class was so simplistic and full of holes that it came tumbling down like the Twin Towers with that applicaton of additional principles. Another argument from one of your cohorts was that we only convert the ignorant, which again I completely blew that hypothesis out of the water. Not to say that any thing was conclusive but the theories were week.

I have asked repeatedly for others to provide to me one bad fruit that is a product of the application of tenets taught and espoused by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. All I get is conjecture regarding the interpretation of scripture. We can go on for years about scripture interpretation and never have conclusion because our viewpoints are diametrically in opposite positions. Secondly if one believes in God and His Son Jesus Christ, yet hasn't seen them, they must rely on either their own intellect or that of others to convince them, or if possible receive answers from God directly, in order for the debate to be finished.

So the foundation of our debate is based on either our own intellect, anothers intellect and our willingness to subort our own understanding, or the ability to receive direct answers to the questions postulated, and above all faith in that God which provided such tenets.

Yet in the end you are so sure about either your intellect, your subordination to anothers intellect, or direct revelation from God or some combination that you can claim that I am brainwashed.

Which of the above processes or combination of processes do you claim to have brought you to the conclusions you have. Me personally, I have used prayer and study and recieved a personal spiritual witness that I have faith in. I have applied the tenets and looked for the fruits and have seen them in my life. I can however be swayed by a greater witness one which has not come to my attention.

I know this, God lives and He has a Son name Jehovah known on this earth as Jesus of Nazareth, The Christ, The Messiah. I recognize Him as my Redeemer and the only way I can return to God. In most religious sects of Christian persuasion this witness would be sufficient for acceptance to that sect, yet I take it further, in that I accept a living Prophet, which no other religious sect believes. And because I do that, I am a cultist or brainwashed.

Yet you have to believe words written by people who claimed to be Prophets or Apostles, and because they are dead that is somehow the end of God's word to man. Go figure.

Mormon 210

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