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Date Posted: 01:23:18 04/10/02 Wed
Author: Rufus
Subject: My opinion on Ben vs Warren
In reply to: Marie 's message, "Re: Was Ben, then, a lesser being than Warren?" on 08:34:53 04/09/02 Tue

I find it interesting that as soon as we determine if a being is human we deem them unkillable, but shoot away if it's a demon. If you get a nasty piece of work like Warren who is a murderer, not a passenger inside of a murdering god, but a consciously calculating, murderer, what makes him better, or more just a kill than a non-human demon? thing. Ben was a human, who failed at a pivotal time in the plans of the god Glory who would have killed the planet to get home. It wouldn't have been personal, just a populated fly to swat out of her way. Glory wasn't human, but her meat sack container was. Ben's biggest crime was fear of dying, because of that fear he sould humanity out. Before then he was at least trying to be a person ( though swept some of Glory's crap under the carpet). Warren, that guy started as a person, with a soul, who through a series of actions has shown himself to be a total shit-head. He is a low-down,raping-kidnapping-murdering waste of space. He could have stopped at freezing that guard, he could have not kidnapped his ex-girlfriend and try to pin the crime of murder on Buffy, and most of all he could have NOT tried to kill Buffy twice (so far). I feel that if the punishment fits the crime, then who cares if the criminal is human?

As for Willow killing Warren. That jack-ass murders her soul-mate, the love of her life, and has tried to murder her best friend, twice. How does losing her mind to grief make Willow somehow unredeemable? Willow will kill, I don't like it, wish she really wouldn't, but ME is very brave to make us ask the question of value, when it comes to murderers. Is a demon murderer worse than a human one? Is Willow a lost cause because she takes out someone who would have continued on to steal, kidnap, rape, and murder someone else. I'm not worried that Willow killed a human, I'm worried that the impact of crossing that line into killing someone she once knew, will do to her. Warren.....he would have gotten done by someone eventually....he's a good example of the extreme line "For the wages of sin is death". I give Ben equal value to Warren. Both had a monster inside of them, one was a real monster in the visage of Glory and the other was just the monster that is Warren. As for peoples opinion that Willow can't be redeemed cause she killed a human I go to this quote.

Had I not sinned what would there be for you to pardon. My fate has given you the opportunity for mercy.

~ Ovid ~

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