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Date Posted: 16:52:40 06/17/04 Thu
Author: No name
Author Host/IP: spider-dtc-tc013.proxy.aol.com / 205.188.113.8
Subject: Beware this is going to be a long post

I had some time today and since I'm a little sick of reading all about those "rigged" photo contests I thought I'd get some statistics out.
So here is the breakdown by photographer for what I consider to be the "big" online contests.. at least the ones that have previous winners on their sites.

Unforgettable Faces
Troy & Michael 4
BTK 3
Donna Mallard 2
Jennifer Penegar 2
Kapture Kashay 1
Toni Overby 1
Rhonda Akram 1

Diamond Doll
Toni Overby 11
Jennifer Penegar 5
Donna Mallard 4
Troy & Michael 3
BTK 2

Contest Xpress
Donna Mallard 3
Kapture Kashay 2
Troy & Michael 1
Toni Overby 1

THE
Toni Overby 4
Kapture Kashay 2
Donna Mallard 1
Troy & Michael 1
John Bonfanti 1
BTK 1

Dazzling Faces
Kapture Kashay 4
Toni Overby 1

Charms
Troy & Michael 10
Toni Overby 4
Donna Mallard 2
Kapture Kashay 1

Little Miss Vogue
John Bonfanti 6
Toni Overby 4
BTK 3
Troy & Michael 2
Kapture Kashay 2
Shining Stars 1
Olivia Paige Photo 1
Rhonda Akram 1
Deanna Meredith 1
unknown/snapshot 1

You've Got The Look
Donna Mallard 4
Troy & Michael 3
Toni Overby 2
Kapture Kashay 1
BTK 1
Jennifer Penegar 1

Thousand Dollar Faces
BTK 4
Toni Overby 3
Kapture Kashay 3
Jennifer Penegar 1

MDF
Toni Overby 10
BTK 7
Troy & Michael 6
Donna Mallard 3
Kapture Kashay 1
Jennifer Penegar 1
John Bonfanti 1

The results speak for themselves but I thought I'd still point out some things.

-Toni Overby, Donna Mallard and BTK photos do steadily well in almost every contest.

-The majority of contests have winners from at least 4 different photographers.

-Statistics show that every single contest has 1 "leading" photographer but except in 2 cases (Charms and Dazzling Faces) this "preference" is not so obvious.

-Two contests owned by the same director may have very different results. For example Toni Overby does very well in THE but not in Dazzling Faces, who are both owned by the same director. Both Troy & Michael and BTK do great in Unforgettable Faces but not that well in Diamond Doll. Toni Overby leads in Diamond Doll but only got 1 winner in Unforgettable Faces. Same director, different results. Could it be that the judges score on the FACE and not on the photographer ? SHOCKING.

Before you start bashing directors again take a few minutes to check your facts before you post, invent rumors, and make fools out of yourselves.
Most contests are fair, whether your daughter wins them or not.

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This post makes me laugh. First good for you for doing your research. The reason I laugh is because I am a photo contest owner. I myself do my daughter own photos and have never used any of the above named photographers. When contestants send me photos the only reason I know who its from is if they tell me which 95% do not. I think its funny when people know who the photos are from (NT) -- No name, 12:14:28 06/18/04 Fri (cache-rm06.proxy.aol.com/152.163.253.6)
- I think it's scary when a contest director can't tell who the photos are from. JMO. (NT) -- No name, 11:01:07 06/20/04 Sun (AVelizy-152-2-5-87.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr/82.120.139.87)
  - I agree I think a good director should not only know a good photo from a poor one but should know who took them. It doesnt take much to determin all the photographers have there own styles (NT) -- No name, 16:56:21 06/20/04 Sun (cache-mtc-ad02.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.196)
THIS POST OBVOUSLY CAME FROM THE PHOTOGRAPHER THEIRSELF OR SOMEONE RELATED/SPOUSE!!! SHOCKING????? (NT) -- No name, 15:29:49 06/18/04 Fri (unknown.Level3.net/63.208.9.67)
- it really doesnt matter if a photographer or the queen of england made the post. Facts are Facts and if you cant handle the truth thats just too bad. Someone did the research and now your conspiracy theory is not holding up. All you have to do is read and you can see the wins are all over NO ONE is dominating anything ( except Charms ) (NT) -- No name, 08:11:10 06/20/04 Sun (cache-rm06.proxy.aol.com/152.163.253.6)
- Not really. It looks like this person did their homework. (NT) -- No name, 05:50:19 07/27/04 Tue (cache-dtc-ab16.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.80)
  - I find the information to be very useful! (NT) -- No name, 06:50:44 08/09/04 Mon (cache-rm06.proxy.aol.com/152.163.253.6)
LOL, You have tons of time on your hands!! Useful info, looks kinda cool. Won't shut the bashers up, though! (NT) -- No name, 20:09:27 06/18/04 Fri (adsl-157-76-59.clt.bellsouth.net/66.157.76.59)
Why is it scary when a contest owner doesnt know exactally who the photos are from? You complain when they pick winners from only certain photographers and then you have a fair contest where the director doesnt even know for sure who the photos are from and you complain then. It doesnt make them a bad director it makes them unexperienced with photographers (NT) -- No name, 04:49:17 06/21/04 Mon (cache-dtc-ad01.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.195)
- Because if they can't tell in their line of work they have no business running a photo contest. (NT) -- No name, 07:55:06 07/01/04 Thu (cache-dtc-ad02.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.196)
  - I agree! They should be able to recognize a photographer's work from 10 feet away! (NT) -- No name, 17:00:04 07/26/04 Mon (NoHost/63.164.145.198)
Wow, a voice of reason! -- No name, 06:48:18 07/13/04 Tue (dsl1475.en-tel.net/69.46.195.223)
- A voice of reason in this crazy pageant world! You are right! (NT) -- No name, 11:09:56 07/26/04 Mon (NoHost/63.164.145.198)
  - great post! (NT) -- No name, 22:42:21 08/02/04 Mon (cache-mtc-ad02.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.196)
JEALOUS!! (NT) -- No name, 21:31:49 11/22/06 Wed (cache-dtc-af05.proxy.aol.com/205.188.117.69)