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Subject: Re: UFC in Fort Bragg?

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Neal Weaver

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Date Posted: 00:05:37 10/03/08 Fri
In reply to: Rodney 's message, "UFC in Fort Bragg?" on 15:17:27 09/25/08 Thu

The UFC is there for the long haul, Meyrowitz wanted a quick buck, thought he could make some money and saw it was an uphill battle due to the political climate. I cant say if he had Zuffa money if it would have turned out better or worse, but he was broke and had to fight legal battles at every turn and had a rapidly diminishing audience.

But keep in mind, during those "golden" years there were ALOT fewer UFCs and there were alot of guys who wanted in. Those guys were fighting in decent shows all over (TJ THompson's show, KOTC, Cox'x EC, etc.) and they would fight in the UFC for 500 bucks for a chance to be on a PPV, and that money was most likely all they would get.

The UFC today is MUCH better for the fighters (ALOT more shows, they have alot more fighters, and the low end guys make alot more money) its just some guys maybe get a lesser deal than they are worth, but they still do MUCH better than guys from the pre-Zuffa era. The fact Dana sort of gloats about it doesnt make it less so.

As for "shady", hell I think 80% of fight promotions would qualify as shady to one degree or another (and I might be generous with that percentage).

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Rodney
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Date Posted: 12:10:53 10/03/08 Fri

Wow. Nice back and forth you guys have going here. Lots of valid points made and countered.

While i agree that any large company should be dealt with using some caution, I also agree that sometimes it's easy to hate the big guys. Like was pointed out, the negative energy on Microsoft, Dell, Ford, etc are good examples. The truth is that all large companies achieved their level of success because they had to stomp on some people's backs... and all of them will stomp some more to stay on top. Yeah, I have heard of all sorts of underhanded tactics by UFC. Especially dealing with the Affliction group. But UFC wants to stay on top, so they will push anyone down at that expense. Can you blame them for fighting to stay on top?

Now for the fighters- what options are out there if they hide from the "big bad ufc". Yeah you can go overseas and fight- or you have the other big groups- WEC or Elite here in the US. Of course UFC and WEC are the same now, and we've all seen and heard the negatives with Elite. So where do the fighters strive to be? I'd guess that 98% of them would PAY to fight in the UFC regardless of Dana White's public feuds, just in the hopes if getting a small slice of that pie.

So do we fault the hungry fighters or the companies who exploit them? Well, if the fighters pockets get fat from their success, I find it hard to feel sorry for them over a contract dispute. So yeah, I think it's a symbiotic relationship. Without the blood and sweat of fighters, the UFC wouldn't make money. But without the UFC, fighters only have the option of $20 local event payouts and a revert to the stone age of MMA with unlicensed shoot fights in a dingy bar.

With that being said. Power should always be questioned... but someone always has the power. Do we let that ruin our day or jump on the bandwagon and try to get our piece? Most guys I know would fight tooth and nail for their share.

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