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[> [> Re: In need of support and advice -- Chris, 18:39:19 06/13/02 Thu

I'm a 23 yo female. History of binge eating disorder, as well as being a borderline bulemic. Haven't had a problem with food this bad since 1999. I'm 5 feet 4 inches and weigh 253 pounds. My goal is to be near 140 by August of 2003.
My short-term goal is to lose 10 lbs by the end of the month. I started this short term goal toward the end of may, giving myself 6 weeks to achieve it. So far, I've lost 3 pounds... I'm not sure how my weigh-in will be affected this coming week, but I"m hoping for a loss.

Thanks for the reply.

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[> Your doing great.... -- Ivy, 21:32:41 06/13/02 Thu

I think your doing really great... I talked to you online and told you so but I thought I might say it again.... I know it only minutely helps but I am not sure whatelse I can offer....I haven't experiance with this disorder so I don't understand it much... and it seems like its something that just takes some time and thought and work to solve........ But I am thinking about you hun and wishing good thoughts your way in hopes that this is resolved quickly.... I am always here for you if you need to vent or talk or a shoulder to lean on.....

semper fi,
Ivy

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[> Re: In need of support and advice -- Stacy, 06:29:36 06/14/02 Fri

I have never been diagnosed with an eating disorder, although I had bouts of anorexia and bulemia in High School. I do understand the guilt that comes with eating, even when you are eating the right foods ( which it sounds like you are). When we have a lot of weight to lose, like both you and I do, the task becomes overwhelming. We know that to reach our goal we are going to have to stick to our plan and stick to it for a very long time. That puts us under immense stress and we end up obsessing about food. Many times in the past when I've attempted to lose weight, I would feel guilty about every bite I put in my mouth. I would have to force myself to eat by scaring myself with the knowledge that if I didn't my metabolsm would be forever damaged. I would also obsess about exercise and get extremely depressed if I missed a day. I would sit for hours and hours and read about weight loss and fitness (even though I already knew everything I was reading). My weightloss took over my life and in the end I would burn out and go back to old habits.

Let me tell you what I did differently this time and why I am going on my third month on my plan, instead of quitting after a month. I already knew all the healthy things you needed to do to lose weight, so what I did was make goals regarding those things instead of weight loss goals. 80-100 ounces water a day, 1200-1800 calories/day, and at least 15-20 min of any sort of activity daily. That's it, no weight loss time frames or goals, just 30 days following the above guidelines. After I completed my 30 days, I set new goals, but none of them involved weight. I still weigh myself, but it's more to check for patterns than anything else. I figured if I followed my plan the weight would come off eventually, and in the meantime I don't have to obsess over the scale number.

I think the most important thing is to stop obsessing over weight and food and to just live and enjoy life, I have more important things to do than worry constantly over my weight. The less I think about it the better I seem to do. I know this will be harder for you because of your disorder, but talk to your therapist and try making some non-weight realted goals for yourself. Maybe even go so far as to get rid of your scale, who knows? You can't let this rule your life though. At 23 you should be enjoying yourself and not worrying yourself sick. Take control and tell yourself it's okay to nourish your body with healthy foods. Without it you won't get far:) Best of luck to you and feel free to write if you need support or encouragement!

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[> [> Re: In need of support and advice -- Carol, 17:49:12 06/14/02 Fri

Stacy, your post is wonderful... thank you :)) Hopefully I can follow in your footsteps.. LOL..

Chris, if I calculated correctly from what you posted as your foods for those two days you are eating between 700-800 calories a day???? Is that correct?

You said in your original post that you had 1/2 grilled cheese and you were beating yourself up about it.

If you deprive your body of a steady flow of fatty acids and glucose into the blood, your body will object strongly against being deprived from these essential nutrients. By decreasing the direct availability of these nutrients, you are telling your body there is a food shortage. This stimulates your body to save energy, to conserve its body fat, and to increase cravings for everything possibly edible.

If, on the other hand, sufficient fat and glucose is available all the time, your body does not object to losing excessive body-fat. On the contrary: if sufficient fatty acids and glucose are available all the time, there simply is no need to conserve body fat. And if also no more than sufficient fatty acids and glucose is available, you will also not store new fat. Your body will automatically utilize its body fat to reach that ideal set-point weight.

Read this: http://www.16.waisays.com/

It is a long read but it is well worth it.. makes a LOT of sense. It talks about how light/low fat foods are bad to eat. They almost always increase the proteins to replace the decreased fat/carbs.. but most don't realize that proteins contain exactly as many calories as carbohydrates/sugars do. When they increase the proteins they really are hiding the carbs from you.. tricky aren't they. Check out the URL above.. it is very enlightening.

I do not believe it is a matter of will power nor do I believe we are all fat because its genetic or that we just don't care.. I believe it is not only a chemical addiction to the foods but also it is a chemical imbalance in our bodies/brains that keep us from losing the weight.. if we can learn how to overcome this addiction like a person trying to quit smoking we can beat this monster for good.

The website URL above has NOTHING to sell.. amazing isnt it.. LOL .. ever bit of information they offer is free even their book which is in adobe format is free.. it is worth the time to read it.

Here I go writing a book again.. when I get going I sometimes can't stop.. I do that with food too.. ROFL..

Big hugs to you hon and I want you to know that I/we are here for you... YOU can do it!! Do some reading on how foods effect your mood, your energy level, your cravings.. read how low carb/fat diets fail and why.. maybe this will help you on your path to losing weight.. I think I have learned a lot from this URL myself... as they say Knowledge is Power!

{{{Chris}}}

Carol

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[> Re: In need of support and advice -- Vici, 17:24:20 06/18/02 Tue

Chris, another thing to keep in mind when you lower your calories to low your body believes it is going into starvation and your metabolism slows down, holding onto every once of fat it can. I have over 100 pounds to loose. My other problem is I have become a closet eater. Partially because my husband hounds me about everything I put in my mouth. I try to talk to him, but he believes it is an adiction just like alcohol and drugs. He has been clean and sober for 20 years. But we know it is not the same, an adiction yes, but different in that we have to eat. We cannot just not eat like an alcoholic can just not drink. I try to deal with healthy habits insteat of numbers on the scale. Also how my clothes fit. Sounds like you are on top of it by being aware of your problem and asking for help now. Get back into therapy if you can. I live where there is nothing available, small community so I use the computer and help from friends. Good luck and keep up the good work.

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