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Subject: Gen 49 vss 8-12 Post 218


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Hillbilly
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Date Posted: 19:57:43 09/20/12 Thu

Genesis 49:8-12 Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise: thy hand shall be in the neck of thine enemies; thy father's children shall bow down before thee. 9 Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up? 10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be. 11 Binding his foal unto the vine, and his ass's colt unto the choice vine; he washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes: 12 His eyes shall be red with wine, and his teeth white with milk.

The name Judah literally means "praise" and the passage is entirely prophetic of the "Lion of the tribe of Judah" (Rev. 5:5). There is a "near" prophecy concerning the ascendancy of Judah to the throne of Israel through David and his descendants but the "far" prophecy is of Jesus Christ. As Joseph, a type of Jesus, "thy father's children shall bow down before thee." All of Israel will one day bow at the feet of Jesus. They will bow at the name of Jesus as the entire world will. They will praise and honor the "KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS" and not be ashamed to do so.

"Judah is a lion's whelp", "a lion" and "an old lion". Three stages in a lions life. We find a reference to the stages in the lion's life in Hosea 5:14: "For I will be unto Ephraim as a lion, and as a young lion to the house of Judah: I, even I, will tear and go away; I will take away, and none shall rescue him." Ephraim is synonymous with the apostate 10 tribes that broke away from the rule of the House of David. The prophecy bodes ill for Ephraim and being a "young lion" or "whelp" to Judah speaks of the peace between the house of Judah and God. We think of the lion cub as being relatively harmless as far as being destructive or dangerous. The mature lion and the old lion are quite different. The mature lion is in his strength and the old lion has a short temper and is not to be mess with. Amos 3:8 The lion hath roared, who will not fear? the Lord GOD hath spoken, who can but prophesy? Notice how the lion roaring and God speaking are connected.

"The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come;". This scepter was first prophesied in Numbers 24:17 I shall see him, but not now: I shall behold him, but not nigh: there shall come a Star out of Jacob, and a Sceptre shall rise out of Israel, and shall smite the corners of Moab, and destroy all the children of Sheth. The wise men followed His star and came seeking this King. This is the King who will rule with a "rod of iron". (Psalm 2:9, Rev. 2:27, 12:5, 19:15) Shiloh, of course, is a reference to Jesus. The word "Shiloh" means place of rest.

From David until the captivity there were no legitimate kings except of Judah. Regardless of the number of kings in Ephraim God only recognized the legitimacy of the line of David. God had Saul, a Benjaminite, anointed as king but it was not his will that Israel have a king. Saul was in a way God's punishment to Israel for rejecting Him as their only ruler, judge and leader. 1 Samuel 8:6-8 But the thing displeased Samuel, when they said, Give us a king to judge us. And Samuel prayed unto the LORD. 7 And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them. 8 According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them up out of Egypt even unto this day, wherewith they have forsaken me, and served other gods, so do they also unto thee. The moral to this is to be careful what you ask for. God may just give it to you.

From the Babylonian captivity until present there has been no king ruling in Israel. The next king will be the Son of David, the KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS, the lion of the tribe of Judah. He is Shiloh. At His first advent He came to offer himself as king to Israel if they would accept Him. His superscription at His crucifixion truthfully stated "THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS." (Matt. 27:37) At Jesus birth the wise men from the east came to Israel asking the question "Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him." (Matt. 2:2) When Jesus comes again in glory He will have his "many crowns" (Rev. 19:12) and all the earth will know what a real king is like. Jesus, as the son of David will fulfill the prophecy as the last King. No other king has sat on the throne of David in Jerusalem. Jerusalem, the eternal city where God chose to place His throne.

"And unto him shall the gathering of the people be." (vs. 10b) "the people" is a reference to the Jews or Israel if you will. It is the day when "all Israel shall be saved". (Rom. 11:26) Jesus will come to Israel in their time of "great tribulation" when they flee before the "beast" in Revelation 12. He will come to them secretly and reveal Himself to them. There will be a great purging of the rebels from Israel and all that will be left will be the faithful and true believers. (See Ezek. 30:35-38)

"Binding his foal unto the vine, and his ass's colt unto the choice vine;" Zechariah 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass. The verses above lay out clearly that an ass and the colt or foal of an ass will be connected with the King of the Jews. Many miss the detail of the prophecies which come to pass exactly as prophesied. Notice in Matthew 21:2-5 Saying unto them, Go into the village over against you, and straightway ye shall find an ass tied, and a colt with her: loose them, and bring them unto me. 3 And if any man say ought unto you, ye shall say, The Lord hath need of them; and straightway he will send them. 4 All this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, 5 Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass. The evidence is that Jesus rode both. Notice in the Book of John how specific mention is made of the colt. John 12:14 And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written, There is no contradiction. Jesus sat on both! The vine is Israel and the choice vine of course references to Jesus Himself. In Jn. 15:5 we find written: "I am the vine, ye are the branches:" We find though in the Book of Psalms this little tidbit. Psalm 80:8 Thou hast brought a vine out of Egypt: thou hast cast out the heathen, and planted it. So then Israel was brought out of Egypt and God called it "a vine".

"He washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes:" Considering this is the second clause in the verse concerning the ass and ass colt which were connected to His coming into Jerusalem as King we would expect the clause to prophecy of His entrance into Jerusalem. Wine in the Bible is often symbolic of blood. Jesus first entrance into Jerusalem ended with His blood on his garments as He was mercilessly beaten and scourged. At His second coming as King it will be quite different: Isaiah 63:1-4 Who is this that cometh from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah? this that is glorious in his apparel, travelling in the greatness of his strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save. 2 Wherefore art thou red in thine apparel, and thy garments like him that treadeth in the winefat? 3 I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment. 4 For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.

The "blood of grapes" comes from the wine press of God's wrath. If there is any doubt at the connections we should remember Jesus' first miracle was water into wine at the wedding at Cana. This, I believe, symbolized the miracle that took place on the cross when Jesus was made to be sin for us. His pure innocent blood took on our sins to be poured out on the altar of the cross. This second reference to the blood of grapes speaks of the blood un-altered that pours from the those crushed from the power of Jesus when He comes back in wrath at the end of the tribulation. Revelation 19:11-16 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. (Notice the specific mention of the clean garments of those following while His garments are sprinkled with blood. He trods the winepress alone!)15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

"His eyes shall be red with wine, and his teeth white with milk." Verse 12 here is obscure to me. I will take a guess though. We have seen the reference to wine as being blood. I'm sure we also are familiar with the saying "He had blood in his eyes" when talking about a person filled with rage and bent on vengeance. Remember we are talking in the last part of these verses about the 2nd advent and God's wrath. So we might say when Jesus comes back He definitely will have blood in His eyes. As to the milk there is a verse that might fit very well here. Keeping in mind the context is the advent. Isaiah 60:16 Thou shalt also suck the milk of the Gentiles, and shalt suck the breast of kings: and thou shalt know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob. We should also remember the the promised land was a land of milk and honey. The riches of the Gentiles who were in the promised land fed the Israelites who conquered them. The milk could then be a reference to the restoration of Israel in the promised land and the blessings they will inherit.

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[> Subject: There is so much here....


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Caren
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Date Posted: 20:10:43 09/21/12 Fri

....I don't think I can quite take it all in....and my memory is short these days so have to do a lot of rereading. Thank You Hillbilly for your thoughtful study of these verses.
[> [> Subject: Hi Hillbilly (and Caren!)


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dori
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Date Posted: 00:07:23 09/24/12 Mon

I was away from the PC most of the weekend and haven't read this yet, but will in the morning. I was wondering if you could take a little time and maybe delve into this part of the study a little more so Caren and I could receive even more enrichment. I don't mean to side-track you, but if you can add some more of your thoughts on the prophecy to Judah, they would be well-received... right, Caren? 8-)
[> [> [> Subject: More on vss 8-12


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Hillbilly
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Date Posted: 13:47:48 10/21/12 Sun

Per your request Dori

Genesis 49:8-12 Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise: thy hand shall be in the neck of thine enemies; thy father's children shall bow down before thee. 9 Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up? 10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be. 11 Binding his foal unto the vine, and his ass's colt unto the choice vine; he washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes: 12 His eyes shall be red with wine, and his teeth white with milk.

The prophecy toward Judah is threefold in it's nature. One deals with Judah personally. One deals with the tribe that develops from Judah and the third is that of the Messiah who from the standpoint of the flesh sprang from Judah.

When it speaks of Judah being praised by his brethren it will speak of Judah's stature among his brethren and it speaks of David as the greatest king that sprang from Judah. In it's end prophecy it speaks of Jesus as Saviour and King.

From the tribe of Judah came the one who was over the building of the tabernacle in the wilderness during the exodus. Exodus 31:1-5 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 2 See, I have called by name Bezaleel the son of Uri, the son of Hur, of the tribe of Judah: 3 And I have filled him with the spirit of God, in wisdom, and in understanding, and in knowledge, and in all manner of workmanship, 4 To devise cunning works, to work in gold, and in silver, and in brass, 5 And in cutting of stones, to set them, and in carving of timber, to work in all manner of workmanship.

An interesting thing about Bezaleel is that his name means "shadow of God". Notice the attributes. Filled with the Spirit of God in (1) wisdom, (2) understanding and (3) knowledge. These are the attributes of Christ. Solomon builds the 1st temple in Jerusalem and of course Solomon is of Judah. Jesus sets forth the New Testament "temple" which is made without hands. 1 Peter 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. 1 Corinthians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

Every one chosen to build the tabernacle or temple was of Judah. When God chose Nehemiah to rebuild Jerusalem he was most likely a descendant of Judah. Only Benjamin and Judah comprised the two southern tribes known as Judah and Nehemiah was governor so most likely he was of Judah. The one who builds New Jerusalem is Jesus Christ, the son of David of the Tribe of Judah.

The tribe of Judah was very powerful in war as long as they followed God and were obedient. They could not be defeated until they started following after the ways of the 10 northern tribes of Israel and corrupted the true worship of God. The "Lion of the tribe of Judah" can never be defeated and when He comes back in glory at the advent He will defeat all the enemies of Israel and set up His kingdom that shall never end. Judah fought with a sword. Jesus will fight with a "two edged sword" that is in His mouth (Heb. 4:12, Rev. 1:16, Rev. 19:15,21).

"Lion's whelp": Judah as a "lion's whelp" is the son of Jacob. We find reference in the Book of Numbers as to Jacob being referred to as a lion. Numbers 23:23-24 Surely there is no enchantment against Jacob, neither is there any divination against Israel: according to this time it shall be said of Jacob and of Israel, What hath God wrought! 24 Behold, the people shall rise up as a great lion, (Israel) and lift up himself as a young lion: (Jacob) he shall not lie down until he eat of the prey, and drink the blood of the slain. The prophecy pertains Jacob and his offspring as being victorious over the Moabites. It's end time prophecy of again of Jesus victorious and not resting until the victory is won. We think of the sabbath as the 7th day and it is. It is the day that God rested from his labors in the creation. The scriptures in 2 Peter 3:8 is one day equals a thousand years and a thousand years as one day. This is prophetic time and the context is the advent of our Lord. This would put us 6 days from the creation (6,000 yrs) and the Kingdom sabbath is upon us when the Lord will set up His "rest" for that 1,000 years. (see Heb. 4:1-11).

The "scepter" and "Shiloh": The passage of course deals with God's appointment of the tribe of Judah to be the tribe of the Kings of Israel. Saul, of Benjamin, was a usurper in the sense that, although chosen by God, he was God's punishment to Israel for rejecting His direct rulership over Israel. The first King that starts the prophecy into play is David. The prophecy starts with Him and it will end with Jesus. The kings of Judah were of an unbroken line to the Babylonian captivity. There has not been a king since the captivity. In the days of Nehemiah and Ezra the temple and the walls were rebuilt but no king was anointed. Governors appointed by the conquerors of the land ruled up until the time of Jesus. When Jesus rode the ass's colt and she ass into Jerusalem the people were proclaiming Him king. He was subsequently crucified and arose the third day as Saviour, having completed His mission of salvation. Had Israel accepted Him as King of the Jews, then He would have been crowned and Rome would have been defeated. Caesar would have fulfilled the role of the prophesied anti-Christ and the Kingdom would have started. The prophecy now will be fulfilled at the second advent of Jesus to the Mount of Olives at the end of the tribulation period and the Kingdom rest will start.

As stated in the regular posting the wine and grapes are tied to the prophecy of the winepress which is an allegory to the crushing victory that Jesus will inflict on the world at that time. The blood truly will reach to the horse's bridles.
[> Subject: There is much more in the prophecy to Judah


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Hillbilly
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Date Posted: 06:19:19 09/22/12 Sat

than I have touched on. Each one of these "pictures" could become a book in itself. There is so much in the passage it would take a great amount of time in study and writing to even scratch the surface. In addition I will freely admit that there is very much in the passages that I haven't realized. The threads that run throughout the Bible on each point are tremendous.

I hope the thoughts expressed will lead you to desire to know much more and cause you to explore each path as it divides again and again.

I appreciate your interest.
[> Subject: Yes


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Caren
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Date Posted: 15:37:21 09/22/12 Sat

Yes it IS very interesting. I look forward to your next teaching.
[> Subject: I enjoyed rereading this study, Hilbilly


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dori
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Date Posted: 10:33:54 09/26/12 Wed

It was rich with many foretellings of Christ's second coming. A Jewish friend of mine is fasting today for Yom Kippur and during this time, she will pray to be worthy of having her name written in the Book for another year. The Jewish faith is so rich in the old laws and following tradition, but totally blind to Christ's having been here with us already. Their very own scripture tells them!
I often wonder how God's chosen race can ignore all of these signs and still think they are awaiting the FIRST coming of Christ.
[> [> Subject: They, as many Christians


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Hillbilly
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Date Posted: 20:37:38 09/26/12 Wed

go by what scholarship says instead of what the Book says.

The Priesthood, Scribes and Pharisees all felt threatened by a Jesus who did not conform to their expectations and taught the people Jesus could not have been the Messiah because He did not come as a conqueror. He disappointed them and they had been teaching the people what to expect when He came.

Christians today will believe their Elders, Preachers and Priests even when they teach contrary to what the Bible plainly says. People, respecting their scholarship, follow without questioning.

There can be no higher authority than the Word of God. If it is taken as the Word of God then it must believed over the teaching of man.

Never take what I write as gospel. Check it out against the Word.
[> [> Subject: I think you can be trusted, Hillbilly


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dori
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Date Posted: 22:21:49 09/27/12 Thu

You would never advance your own words over the Word, and you only represent yourself as a teacher, not a cleric in any church.
But I do know what you are saying, and I do agree, as well.


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