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no? poetic license? -- Anonymous, 04:09:05 10/06/01 Sat

if you open up inside inside of me


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god -- Anonymous, 04:06:20 10/06/01 Sat

i thought for a minute...


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where are you? -- Anonymous, 04:04:58 10/06/01 Sat

or should the question be 'where am i'?


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... -- Anonymous, 04:02:32 10/06/01 Sat

The streets are always wet with rain
After a summer shower when I saw you standin'
In the garden in the garden wet with rain
You wiped the teardrops from your eye in sorrow
As we watched the petals fall down to the ground
And as I sat beside you I felt the
Great sadness that day in the garden

And then one day you came back home
You were a creature all in rapture
You had the key to your soul
And you did open that day you came back to the garden

The olden summer breeze was blowin' on your face
The light of God was shinin' on your countenance divine
And you were a violet colour as you
Sat beside your father and your mother in the garden

The summer breeze was blowin' on your face
Within your violet you treasure your summery words
And as the shiver from my neck down to my spine
Ignited me in daylight and nature in the garden

And you went into a trance
Your childlike vision became so fine
And we heard the bells inside the church
We loved so much
And felt the presence of the youth of
Eternal summers in the garden

And as it touched your cheeks so lightly
Born again you were and blushed and we touched each other lightly
And we felt the presence of the Christ

And I turned to you and I said
No Guru, no method, no teacher
Just you and I and nature
And the father in the garden

No Guru, no method, no teacher
Just you and I and nature
And the Father and the
Son and the Holy Ghost
In the garden wet with rain
No Guru, no method, no teacher
Just you and I and nature and the holy ghost
In the garden, in the garden, wet with rain
No Guru, no method, no teacher
Just you and I and nature
And the Father in the garden


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remember? -- Anonymous, 03:37:48 10/06/01 Sat

In the days
When we were swinging form the trees
I was a monkey
Stealing honey from a swarm of bees

I could taste
I could taste you even then
And I would chase you down the wind

You can go there if you please
Wild honey
And if you go then go with me
Wild honey

Did I know you
Did I know you even then
Before the clocks kept time
Before the world was made

From the cruel sun
You were shelter
You were my shelter and my shade

If you go there with me
Wild honey
You can do just what you please
Wild honey

Yeah, just blowing in the breeze
Wild honey
Wild, wild, wild

I'm still standing
I'm still standing where you left me
Are you still growing wild
With everything tame around you

I send you flowers
Cut flowers for your hall
I know your garden is full
But is there sweetness at all

What is soul
Love me
Give me soul

If you go then go with me
Wild honey
Won't you take me, take me please
Wild honey

Yeah, swinging through the trees
Wild honey
Wild, wild, wild


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... -- Anonymous, 03:35:20 10/06/01 Sat

And love
Is not the easy thing
The only baggage
That you can bring
Not the easy thing
The only baggage you can bring
Is all that you can't leave behind

And if the darkness is to keep us apart
And if the daylight feels like it's a long way off
And if your glass heart should crack
And for a second you turn back
Oh no, be strong

Walk on
Walk on
What you got, they can't steal it
No they can't even feel it

Walk on
Walk on
Stay safe tonight

You're packing a suitcase for a place
None of us has been
A place that has to be believed
To be seen
You could have flown away
A singing bird
In an open cage
Who will only fly
Only fly for freedom

Walk on
Walk on
What you got
You can't deny it
Can't sell it or buy it
Walk on
Walk on
stay safe tonight

And I know it aches
How your heart it breaks
You can only take so much
Walk on
Walk on

Home
Hard to know what it is
If you never had one
Home
I can't say where it is
But I know I'm going
Home
That's where the heart is

And I know it aches
And your heart it breaks
You can only take so much
Walk on

Leave it behind
You've got to leave it behind

All that you fashion
All that you make
All that you build
All that you break
All that you measure
All that you feel
All this you can't leave behind
All that you reason
All that you care
It's only time
And I'll never fill up all I find
All that you sense
All that you scheme
All you dress up
And all that you see
All you create
All that you wreck
All that you hate


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michael -- Anonymous, 02:49:55 10/06/01 Sat

please please please please please please please please pleae please please please come back. please.


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i can't -- Anonymous, 02:37:33 10/06/01 Sat

stop crying


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hi -- Anonymous, 20:59:20 10/05/01 Fri

hi


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if you are worried about beth -- Anonymous, 19:54:58 10/04/01 Thu

why dont one of you call her up?


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she's probably -- Anonymous, 19:01:52 10/04/01 Thu

joined the REd Cross and is on the AFghanistan border helping refugees. phone lines are kinda scarce there i hear.


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right. -- Anonymous, 14:14:35 10/04/01 Thu


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Not -- Anonymous, 13:12:40 10/04/01 Thu

this long, and she usually replys to email on a regular basis. Melora emailed her and she didn't email her back.


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she's been gone -- Anonymous, 12:15:27 10/04/01 Thu

for long periods of time before.


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so.. -- Anonymous, 11:30:19 10/04/01 Thu

it's now been over a month since we've heard from Beth. Am I alone in assuming the worst?


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oh -- Anonymous, 10:17:45 10/04/01 Thu

no...


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- -- Anonymous, 23:31:51 10/03/01 Wed


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fix it yourself -- Anonymous, 23:12:20 10/03/01 Wed

i only care about me


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my world is falling apart -- Anonymous, 23:11:00 10/03/01 Wed


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. -- Anonymous, 23:09:53 10/03/01 Wed


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there are -- Anonymous, 13:09:59 10/03/01 Wed

worse things to be.


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a nutcase -- Anonymous, 09:47:55 10/03/01 Wed

alcoholic. great!


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not a nutcase -- Anonymous, 16:59:14 10/02/01 Tue

but deeply offensive when drunk


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god bless us -- Anonymous, 13:38:17 10/02/01 Tue

every one. ;-P


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good -- Anonymous, 12:14:06 10/02/01 Tue

for you, too.


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good -- Anonymous, 12:05:25 10/02/01 Tue

for you.


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i got sunshine -- Anonymous, 11:30:00 10/02/01 Tue

on a cloudy day.


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aaaaahhhh -- Anonymous, 11:28:44 10/02/01 Tue

this is better.


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well, -- Anonymous, 11:17:43 10/02/01 Tue

maybe! ;-P


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who, -- Anonymous, 11:04:48 10/02/01 Tue

me?


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you -- Anonymous, 10:30:52 10/02/01 Tue

are a nutcase. always pointing the finger. look in the mirror honey.


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well. -- Anonymous, 09:00:27 10/02/01 Tue

that certainly did quiet this place down.


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i know -- Anonymous, 03:58:14 10/01/01 Mon

that this is vitriol, no solution, spleen venting but i feel better having sceamed


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sorry bout that -- Anonymous, 02:50:48 10/01/01 Mon


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YAWN -- Anonymous, 23:39:51 09/30/01 Sun

YAWN!!!


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i've had enough of being diplomatic: -- Anonymous, 07:35:11 09/30/01 Sun

ok kids. this is how i see it. americans *don't* by and large *KNOW* about your government's dealing overseas, nor do you care.

BY AND LARGE: you don't *KNOW* about your government's dealings domestically, nor do you care. you VOTE for the one that comes over best on television like some movie star or rock star, you don't THINK about what they are saying.

guess what, kids, i lost my job because of this "war" and if america as a nation had been politically savvy enough to understand what your leaders were talking about in their policies and VOTED accordingly (you do understand the term VOTE don't you cos it seems like you DON'T) i could still HAVE a job. but no... life is the mall, mcdonald's (don't forget that apostrope) and a weekender by the sea. EXCUSE ME WHILE I PUKE.

YOu fat lazy shits. get your brains in gear if not your arses and start CONTRIBUTING to the world instead of playing GLOBAL BULLY BOY.

america you suck. i hate you. that's it. fuck you. if it takes planes into a building and 6959 dead then so be it.

those dead people, if you are SMART, did you the biggest favour of your lives. and the sad thing is, if you were SMART TO BEGIN WITH they needn't have died at all. arseholes.

TIME TO WAKE UP!!!


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url to beth's page please i lost it -- Anonymous, 23:34:53 09/29/01 Sat


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:-( -- Anonymous, 12:27:37 09/28/01 Fri

Melora has emailed Beth and will let us know if/when she gets a reply.


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Damn! Beth!! -- Anonymous, 10:17:25 09/28/01 Fri

Did anyone else try to ask her sister about her? I am so worried!!


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sigh -- Anonymous, 10:13:49 09/28/01 Fri


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no -- Anonymous, 17:01:31 09/27/01 Thu


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Beth -- Anonymous, 12:54:46 09/27/01 Thu

Did anyone ever hear from Beth? She usually pops in here or at the other board to atleast say hi and hasn't been around since before the tragic terrorist attack.


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hi -- Anonymous, 09:16:42 09/27/01 Thu

i hope so.


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hi -- Anonymous, 08:22:55 09/27/01 Thu

hi does hope still come here hi


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i'm keeping that one -- Anonymous, 02:49:36 09/26/01 Wed

thanks


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lol! -- Anonymous, 02:48:35 09/26/01 Wed

beautiful


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http://www.theonion.com/onion3734/god_clarifies_dont_kill.html -- Anonymous, 02:35:47 09/26/01 Wed


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Unbelievable!!!! -- Anonymous, 02:21:15 09/26/01 Wed

Pubdate: Tue, 22 May 2001
Source: Los Angeles Times (CA)
Copyright: 2001 Los Angeles Times
Website: http://www.latimes.com/
Details: http://www.mapinc.org/media/248
Author: Robert Scheer
Note: Robert Scheer Is a Syndicated Columnist.
BUSH'S FAUSTIAN DEAL WITH THE TALIBAN

Enslave your girls and women, harbor anti-U.S. terrorists, destroy every vestige of civilization in your homeland, and the Bush administration will embrace you. All that matters is that you line up as an ally in the drug war, the only international cause that this nation still takes seriously.

That's the message sent with the recent gift of $43 million to the Taliban rulers of
Afghanistan, the most virulent anti-American violators of human rights in the world today. The gift, announced last Thursday by Secretary of State Colin Powell, in addition to other recent aid, makes the U.S. the main sponsor of the Taliban and rewards that "rogue regime" for declaring that opium growing is against the will of God. So, too, by the Taliban's estimation, are most human activities, but it's the ban on drugs that catches this administration's attention.

Never mind that Osama bin Laden still operates the leading anti-American terror operation from his base in Afghanistan, from which, among other crimes, he launched two bloody attacks on American embassies in Africa in 1998.

Sadly, the Bush administration is cozying up to the Taliban regime at a time when the United Nations, at U.S. insistence, imposes sanctions on Afghanistan because the Kabul government will not turn over Bin Laden.

The war on drugs has become our own fanatics' obsession and easily trumps all other concerns. How else could we come to reward the Taliban, who has subjected the female half of the Afghan population to a continual reign of terror in a country once considered enlightened in its treatment of women.

At no point in modern history have women and girls been more systematically abused than in Afghanistan where, in the name of madness masquerading as Islam, the government in Kabul obliterates their fundamental human rights. Women may not appear in public without being covered from head to toe with the oppressive shroud called the burkha , and they may not leave the house without being accompanied by a male family member.

They've not been permitted to attend school or be treated by male doctors, yet women have been banned from practicing medicine or any profession for that matter.

The lot of males is better if they blindly accept the laws of an extreme religious theocracy that prescribes strict rules governing all behavior, from a ban on shaving to what crops may be grown. It is this last power that has captured the enthusiasm of the Bush White House.

The Taliban fanatics, economically and diplomatically isolated, are at the breaking point, and so, in return for a pittance of legitimacy and cash from the Bush administration, they have been willing to appear to reverse themselves on the growing of opium. That a totalitarian country can effectively crack down on its farmers is not surprising. But it is grotesque for a U.S. official, James P. Callahan, director of the State Department's Asian anti-drug program, to describe the Taliban's special methods
in the language of representative democracy: "The Taliban used a system of consensus-building," Callahan said after a visit with the Taliban, adding that the Taliban justified the ban on drugs "in very religious terms."

Of course, Callahan also reported, those who didn't obey the theocratic edict would be sent to prison.

In a country where those who break minor rules are simply beaten on the spot by religious police and others are stoned to death, it's understandable that the government's "religious" argument might be compelling. Even if it means, as Callahan concedes, that most of the farmers who grew the poppies will now confront starvation. That's because the Afghan economy has been ruined by the religious extremism of the Taliban, making the attraction of opium as a previously tolerated quick cash crop overwhelming.

For that reason, the opium ban will not last unless the U.S. is willing to pour far larger amounts of money into underwriting the Afghan economy.

As the Drug Enforcement Administration's Steven Casteel admitted, "The bad side of the ban is that it's bringing their country--or certain regions of their country--to economic ruin."

Nor did he hold out much hope for Afghan farmers growing other crops such as wheat, which require a vast infrastructure to supply water and fertilizer that no longer exists in that devastated country. There's little doubt that the Taliban will turn once again to the easily taxed cash crop of opium in order to stay in power.

The Taliban may suddenly be the dream regime of our own war drug war zealots, but in the end this alliance will prove a costly failure. Our long sad history of signing up dictators in the war on drugs demonstrates the futility of building a foreign policy on a domestic obsession.


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not to anyone in particular -- Anonymous, 17:40:13 09/25/01 Tue

just the world in general


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AAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 -- Anonymous, 17:39:04 09/25/01 Tue


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They had an open house -- Anonymous, 17:27:55 09/25/01 Tue

at the mosque in a neighboring town a couple of days ago, but I only heard about it after the fact.


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#thwack# -- Anonymous, 17:15:14 09/25/01 Tue


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i -- Anonymous, 16:52:26 09/25/01 Tue

am wondering if i ever did


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i -- Anonymous, 16:46:09 09/25/01 Tue

don't understand anything anymore.


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h.p. lovecraft (1927) -- Anonymous, 12:58:39 09/25/01 Tue

"All my tales are based on the fundamental premise that common human laws and interests and emotions have no validity or significance in the universe-at-large."


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this room smells like -- Anonymous, 12:30:06 09/25/01 Tue

three-day-old unrefrigerated trout.


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(disclaimer) -- Anonymous, 12:28:36 09/25/01 Tue

that was not intended as a slap at depressed people, nor toward heavy or narcoleptic individuals. just me.


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i'm feeling -- Anonymous, 11:55:07 09/25/01 Tue

really heavy and sleepy. anyone else? isn't that a sign of depression?


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(disclaimer) -- Anonymous, 11:53:29 09/25/01 Tue

that was not intended as a slap at the pro-american poster, nor americans in general. just humans.


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rodney king -- Anonymous, 10:40:12 09/25/01 Tue

where are you now? eloquent victims, unite. give us catchphrases and eventual jokes, as the moment becomes passe. give us symbols to rally behind, to justify our bigotries. give us our white hats and our banner. give us our impetus to take what reasoning and logic is left humanity, and with it to invent such blithe ideations as "acceptable losses" and "final solutions". give us a clear conscience and a good night's sleep.


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but -- Anonymous, 10:00:52 09/25/01 Tue

isn't that me.


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now -- Anonymous, 09:59:37 09/25/01 Tue

we're fighting over whether we should be fighting and how we should be fighting if we should be fighting. confused? i am.


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war - WHUH - good gawd y'awll - what is it good for? -- Anonymous, 09:58:23 09/25/01 Tue

absolutely nothing. say it again.


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so what are you going to do in your own area to get even with the taliban? -- Anonymous, 07:05:56 09/25/01 Tue

Nothing unless they are found to be hiding out here. "Getting even" should not involve anyone but the terrorists. They want a violent response from us so I hope they don't get what they want. I don't want anyone getting hurt here or in Afghanistan. I hope the terrorists are caught, and if the Taliban loses control of Afghanistan, that would be great too. Refugees were fleeing Asghanistan long before Sept 11.


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arresting the guilty is the ultimate goal -- Anonymous, 06:52:12 09/25/01 Tue


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This makes me sick -- Anonymous, 06:51:08 09/25/01 Tue


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so what are you going to do in your own area -- Anonymous, 01:59:49 09/25/01 Tue

to get even with the taliban? what are you going to do within your own town to help?


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god help all of us -- Anonymous, 01:55:05 09/25/01 Tue


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your point of view -- Anonymous, 01:53:05 09/25/01 Tue

leads us to destruction. youre trying to get us all killed and you dont even see it and you dont appear to care. go back to your friends at murmurs. theyre as ignorant as you.


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there are ways of protecting yourself, arresting the guilty and not hurting people and not -- Anonymous, 01:44:37 09/25/01 Tue

putting the world at risk of nuclear war. calling for people to be hurt is not the right thing to do. i thought the human race was better than this but youre not youre mainly a pack of animals


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what do you want? -- Anonymous, 01:41:29 09/25/01 Tue


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You want peace and that's admirable, -- Anonymous, 01:36:01 09/25/01 Tue

but that is not what the Taliban wants. We have the right to protect ourselves.


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you just dont get it do you. -- Anonymous, 01:28:45 09/25/01 Tue

I don't get your point of view and you don't get mine.


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WHAT really happened? -- Anonymous, 01:26:57 09/25/01 Tue

That's what I was asking. What was the PR firm keeping from us?


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you just dont get it do you. -- Anonymous, 01:23:59 09/25/01 Tue


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time to -- Anonymous, 01:18:27 09/25/01 Tue

grow up


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what did the PR firm preventing us from seeing? -- Anonymous, 01:13:20 09/25/01 Tue

what really happened


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I am not at all surprised that Afghanistan is not ash. -- Anonymous, 23:31:13 09/24/01 Mon

It would be Ash if we were as brutal as the Taliban, but we are not. Who's been feeding you all that propaganda about American atrocities?


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The petition is a good idea -- Anonymous, 23:29:33 09/24/01 Mon

I would prefer that this is solved without war. What do you believe that PR firm kept us from seeing about the gulf war?


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Go and preach to the Talaban -- Anonymous, 23:21:20 09/24/01 Mon


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if you don't stand for peace you stand for war -- Anonymous, 17:35:06 09/24/01 Mon

if you are not with us you are against yourself


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see it's not about countries anymore it's about -- Anonymous, 17:23:37 09/24/01 Mon

the future existance of the human race as a *whole*


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oh i meants to tell you -- Anonymous, 17:18:33 09/24/01 Mon

during the gulf war the american government hired a pr firm to feed news to cnn to give america the spin of being 'the good guys' so of course the truth was never told. don't expect to be given the truth in this crisis either. whatever you think is going on probably isn't. propoganda.


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started by a (gasp) american! -- Anonymous, 17:09:26 09/24/01 Mon


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a petition to be sent to dubya for those interested in not having war -- Anonymous, 17:08:15 09/24/01 Mon

http://home.uchicago.edu/~dhpicker/petition


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george -- Anonymous, 17:03:03 09/24/01 Mon

has done okay so far. i thought afghanistan would be ash by now. i am pleasantly surprised. he and his people are using their noggins.


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if we don't watch the way we think -- Anonymous, 16:49:50 09/24/01 Mon

the people of this planet will go up in a puff of nuclear smoke.


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for every ugly fact -- Anonymous, 16:47:12 09/24/01 Mon

about the Taliban there is an equally ugly fact about American government. what's the point in stating them? what is happening here is 'you hit me so i hit you back harder'. and that's war. and that's grade school. and with the technology we have created when we get into that kind of spiral we can bring about our own annihilation. and that's not a good thing.


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From a post about "Behind the Veil. -- Anonymous, 16:15:59 09/24/01 Mon

"What was absolutely horrifying was when the interviewer asked the Taliban foreign minister why they would use the foreign government-finaced football stadium for public executions, and he said that public executions were a time
of joy for the Taliban and their people, because they proved that their government was doing their job, and that if the outside governments didn't like it, they should chip in and build them a facility for executions so they could
play football at the stadium."


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But they probably spell better than I do -- Anonymous, 16:05:43 09/24/01 Mon


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do you live in 2001 or 1201? -- Anonymous, 16:04:14 09/24/01 Mon

I live in 2001. The people who did that do not.


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Oh the spelling -- Anonymous, 16:01:31 09/24/01 Mon

The is sooo important. Forgive me.


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israel. afghanistan. and stop being silly. -- Anonymous, 15:57:23 09/24/01 Mon

What about Isreal and Afghanistan?


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I know the US government -- Anonymous, 15:54:47 09/24/01 Mon

isn't as fair in foreign policy as it claims to be, we support political entities that according to US "interests," not according to freedom and democracy. But how could anyone justify what those people did, or even what they do to their own people, especially their women? And by that I don't mean all Muslims, just the ones who attacked us and those who support the means they used.


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i repeat: -- Anonymous, 15:41:22 09/24/01 Mon

israel. afghanistan. and stop being silly.


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Why is it so much easier -- Anonymous, 15:39:13 09/24/01 Mon

for you to sympathise with the people who planned or celebrated the attacks than with the victims? What is so grown up about that? Also, do you hate Isreal as much as they do?


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isn't it time... -- Anonymous, 14:44:42 09/24/01 Mon

yes.


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isnt it time -- Anonymous, 04:48:09 09/24/01 Mon

that we all grew up?


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are you a (wo)man or a mouse? -- Anonymous, 04:46:58 09/24/01 Mon

do you live in 2001 or 1201?


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i expect you to sympathize with those who hate you. -- Anonymous, 04:45:16 09/24/01 Mon

if martin luther king could do it so can you.


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feeling better now? -- Anonymous, 04:36:49 09/24/01 Mon


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