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Date Posted: 20:22:57 08/20/02 Tue
Author: Phaedra
Subject: *tsk* *tsk* Churchy and his Engineer mind reeling (and I can answer you Rachel)
In reply to: UHC 's message, "Super Technology of Buffy" on 16:59:27 08/20/02 Tue

Well, you know you had my mind reeling last night trying to keep up with you, thinking about this.

I've always just blindly accepted most anything to do with .... er, well ....... um ...... Spike *sheepish grin*. The fact the chip "reads" so quickly is quirky. It's like a scanner, only like you said UHC, without the sensory equipment visible.

What I have a hard time believing, is that the chip is still active!!!! That is what I have a hard time believing. After what, 2 years. He's been through several beatings. I wish they would revisit the chip (although I guess you could say they did when the geeks tested it). *sigh* I would like more of an explanation tho, so that it is not just a convenient quick fix.

Oh, and Rach, Dru killed the couple at the Bronze and presented one of the dead bodies to Spike to feed off of (romantic, huh;-) He didn't kill the human, so no chip ow-ie. :-)

Rach, LMAO regarding the operation ep. You are so right. What was the big deal (although one slip and he would have been a veggie vamp and we wouldn't want that, would we?;-)

As far as getting it up .... Maybe vamps are hard all the time! Ever think of that. Rigor mortis.

(or it's cuz Joss says so)

Also, I agree, why just Spike. And if it is because he was the only vamp to escape, why aren't the Initiative coming to check up on him. Riley knows Hostile 17 is alive. Why haven't they come to pay a call on the only walking around free experiment, watching him, documenting his actions/movements, etc.

Oh, and BS stands for Buffy's Spikey. Just a little pet name.

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[> Comprehensive Chip Explanation!! -- A.P., 23:32:55 08/20/02 Tue [1]

Maybe it merely prevents Spike from doing something he KNOWS is wrong. With Tara, since he was unsure if she was human, it fired anyway (precautionary). Feeding with Dru, I don't recall, but was the person dead?

The molecular whatever of Buffy, I think, was nothing. Spike really did believe something was wrong with Buffy when she came back.. his personal beliefs about magic would have him thinking she is not 'natural.' Hence, he can beat the snot out of Buffy without the chip firing; if it is in his brain, it makes sense to be triggered based on a perception. In fact, since we can stimulate certain parts of the brain and get a biological response, this seems not only plausible but theoretically POSSIBLE -- catch being, it'd have to be in live brain tissue. Put a chip in, measure activity in one of the brain's areas, analyze it, etc: you would look for a pattern that, perhaps, is something meaning I AM ABOUT TO DO VIOLENT PHYSICAL HARM THAT I KNOW IS WRONG. There should be chemical changes, etc.

Being a vamp, however, throws a monkey wrench into all that -- we don't know their brainiology. :) The theory goes "the demon gets your body but it doesn't get your soul" and the demon is tainted by the person, meaning a lot of the residual brain structure is intact, infecting the demon. So -- if a vamp is a demon in a human's body that explains two more things: one, why they have to be careful in the brain. Perhaps the demon controls the motor functions via the brain and nervous system, which are "dead" but still electrical conduits and thus how they channel the energy. This is a Ghost in the Machine but unless you took college Philosophy, you can ignore that one flaw in the theory :) The other thing is how Little Spikey gets up to do 'battle' -- same deal -- the demon controls the body.

And there you have it !! :)


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[> [> A.P. - sorry, didn't see your response, before I posted mine...we are thinking on the same lines. -- Lijdrec....;-.), 23:57:05 08/20/02 Tue [1]


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[> [> It's all clearer to me now!! -- Phae, 10:48:16 08/21/02 Wed [1]


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