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Subject: Re: hello Author: Jeff [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 09:55:34 07/23/02 Tue In reply to: John 's message, "hello" on 05:05:40 07/23/02 Tue Sorry John, I check but noone else seems to be talking so I don't bother a spew out Jeff shite. I've found some cool lines from John Wayne's HONDO movie. Having a drink with italian dr. tonight and a financial manager(29 yrs old) on Fri. Plus I gotta finish radio outline, record movie lines and slap on CD and also get last minute divorce stuff complete for Aug. 5. I believe Ken was taking a vacation. I keep asking Chris about staying clean and getting help and each time he talks other shit and doesn't answer my specific questions. I am still considering a Nov. visit to AZ, if I must use my plane fare. Thats it for me. Unless someone is froggy enough to start a good argument. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> Subject: communication Author: John [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:08:59 07/24/02 Wed No arguments here, but it would be welcome to see some dialog again. Aoy is having some terrible problems and this hasn't been an easy time. I don't know if I can write about it now. Things are still happening and I'll write when it settles down and I see where it all goes. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I was hoping to see something going on here to feel some kind of connection with you guys right now, but I can't say too much about my own situation. Does that make sense? Don't be alarmed by my tone. I'm getting an emotional roller coaster ride now, but I'm not alone. I've got a number of friends over here that I can and have talked to for support. I'll check back again tomorrow.

[> [> [> Subject: Re: communication Author: Curt [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:09:04 07/24/02 Wed Recall that I am "Mr. Fadeaway", so expect nothing from me. Just kidding. I'll dash off an e-mail to you tonight.

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: communication Author: Curt [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:03:39 07/25/02 Thu Or maybe tonight. >Recall that I am "Mr. Fadeaway", so expect nothing >from me. > > >Just kidding. I'll dash off an e-mail to you tonight.

[> [> [> Subject: Re: communication Author: Jeff [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 22:31:26 07/26/02 Fri John, Whats going on? I'm feeling some fear that maybe all is not going well with you and Aoy. Is this it? Does it appear as if she won't be able to come back with you? What about her mother's health? Is everything legit? I know you have a sliver of doubt in the back of your mind...has it increased? What kind of help do you want from us? I believe we can all assist with connecting, but ya gotta let us know what you are looking for. Tell us what you need. (Hey, where the fuck is Ken?) Ken! Are you out there? Someone turn on the damn Ken-signal! John, again, ya gotta tell us something, so we can better support you.

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: communication Author: John [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 07:03:55 07/28/02 Sun There's really nothing anyone can do to change the situation I'm in. I was just hoping to find you guys discussing something and that would remind me that you guys are out there and everything's okay. I no longer have one iota of doubt about Aoy. I love her and I know that she loves me. Events are bigger than us both. I fear that I won't see Aoy again. It's too painful to discuss now. We're both walking around numb and in shock. I've got some good support over here, friends all over the place, good people I've known for awhile who look out for me. Don't worry. My health is good, and I'm not in any danger. I'm just heartbroken again, like you wouldn't believe. Under different circumstances I would suspect that something is wrong with me, but I understand what's going on and outside forces are at work. I think my failing is that I always (unconsciously) seem to pick women with big problems.

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: communication Author: Jeff [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:35:24 07/28/02 Sun John, I understand its painful. What do you mean other forces at work? Is it about Thai govt. won't let her go? Or the US won't let her in? How long are you going to be gone? Maybe when you get back we can talk about it, or maybe there's a way we can get together and talk about it together. If we use Curt's friend's suite, you and Ken can share gas....we don't have to spend that much money.....its about hanging out, sit by the pool, sit around together and night...and maybe just have a good cry :) Hang in there. Just talk....talk and share....it'll help.

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: communication Author: Curt [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 02:50:06 07/29/02 Mon When I read your post, John, it hit me like a shotgun blast to the chest. I am so sorry. When are you arriving back in the states? Would you like me to come down to visit you so that we could be together and talk?

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: good friends Author: John [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:05:31 07/29/02 Mon Guys, thank you for your care and support. That really means a lot to me. I'm not sure when we'll have the chance to get together again, but we'll make it happen sometime soon. Jeff, it's not the government, it's Aoy. She's been hurt very, very badly and she's not the same inside. She's pulled back inside herself for survival. I'm having trouble getting through to her. Life seems to have no limits to the joy and pain one can experience. I've come to know a spectrum beyond my imaginings.