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Subject: Re: Male vs Female Strippers

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Maria

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Date Posted: 10:07:32 07/04/02 Thu
In reply to: Raisinmom 's message, "Re: Male vs Female Strippers" on 16:18:02 07/03/02 Wed

> I mean, how many times can you
>yell "false consciousness!" at women or blame the male
>eye?

I have a gay friend who goes to watch strippers with her friends. I find it kind of strange, since it seems so anti-feminist.

>(do men really think that the
>woman up there dancing around is dancing for *him* and
>not for the money in his wallet?)

I don't think they care, frankly.

> It's more accurate perhaps to call them bad
>decision-makers, or trashy, or self-objectifying.
>This doesn't negate the fact that are most certainly
>objectified by men -- but that's not the whole story.

Also, how do you distinguish between the "bad decision makers" and the women who make major bucks from their bodies -- the women who pose for Playboy, Vegas showgirls and the like? I saw an interview recently with a woman who is going to be in Playboy as one of the "women of Enron." She thinks that she is doing what she needs to do to take care of herself -- she wouldn't say how much she is being paid, but the guess was around $100k. Who wouldn't be tempted by that?
>I do agree that all women suffer from the actions of
>stippers and prostitutes (and models, while I'm on the
>subject). I also agree that our society is "lookist"
>and oversexualized.

I think all women suffer more from the extremly unrealistic ideal pushed by the fashion mags -- size 0, 16 year old models enhanced by airbrushing and photoshop -- than strippers and prostitutes. And while our society is overly sexualized, the flip side of this is that we are also overly prudish and hung up about it.

Maria

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Re: Male vs Female Strippers	Astrid	11:17:39 07/04/02 Thu