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Subject: Re: Male vs Female Strippers


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Raisinmom
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Date Posted: 16:18:02 07/03/02 Wed
In reply to: Astrid 's message, "Re: Male vs Female Strippers" on 15:34:49 07/03/02 Wed
 >>They are all ridiculous. Female strippers seem a bit
>>more like victims to me though.
>
>Absolutely. Women are being objectified in a way that
>men just cannot be. It impacts all women, when some
>women are treated as things rather than people.
>
Yeah, but what do you do about women objectifying themselves? I note you use the passive voice -- "women are being objectified...are treated as things" -- but many strippers choose this profession, for whatever bad reasons. I mean, how many times can you yell "false consciousness!" at women or blame the male eye? (And cf the thread on plastic surgery, which demonstrates that women treat themselves as objects as often as men do.) I personally think stripping is sleazy and can't really understand why men like to look at female strippers (do men really think that the woman up there dancing around is dancing for *him* and not for the money in his wallet?), but I have no ideas on what if anything to do about it. It's much like prostitution, which I also think is sleazy but believe should be legal (and regulated). Some women are certainly victims and forced into it, but some are not. We have to accept that at least with stripping, it's too simplistic to call all the women "victims" and say that only outside forces treat them as objects. It's more accurate perhaps to call them bad decision-makers, or trashy, or self-objectifying. This doesn't negate the fact that are most certainly objectified by men -- but that's not the whole story.

I do agree that all women suffer from the actions of stippers and prostitutes (and models, while I'm on the subject). I also agree that our society is "lookist" and oversexualized.
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Re: Male vs Female StrippersMichelle17:21:31 07/03/02 Wed
Re: Male vs Female StrippersAstrid18:39:02 07/03/02 Wed
Re: Male vs Female StrippersMaria10:07:32 07/04/02 Thu

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