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Subject: Were the results read backwards? Author: ... [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: Sunday, June 25, 05:12:29pm Kathleen Masek's talent was not among the strongest of the top 10. Her answer was the worst of the final five. Her dress was just not attractive and didn't flatter her gorgeous figure. Beautiful swimsuit body, but not a prelim winner. So I'm just scratching my head as to how she accumulated the most points to win the pageant. I truly apologize to Kathleen and her family and I hate to be a buzzkill on what must be a great moment for them, but I have to ask if this win really reflects positively on our program or on the judges' ability to do their jobs. She was not the strongest contestant on that stage tonight, not even close. Those of you in the audience tonight who thought Kathleen was #1... please, let me know what you saw, that I didn't see! I am all ears. I know many of you will write off this post as "just another negative Maryland fan" but I'm just confused. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: I think they were and if I were the other girls I would definitely want something done to get to the bottom of this. There's no way Kathleen deserved to win. I'm over this political mess. Author: Ugh [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sunday, June 25, 06:07:22pm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: That talent was an embarrasment to the system. Author: guess how many jaws were dropped tonight? [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sunday, June 25, 07:31:06pm Is Miss America placing more value on contestants' hight now? Because I can't think of any other reason for this choice... [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: You see here's the thing. You people complain EVERY YEAR! Every frickin year! So your tears of disappointed are not surprising. I will say this. You cant blame the final ballot because it was gone. So apparently, Masek did win on total points from the Judges. I guess they liked what they saw. Author: Miss Maryland [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sunday, June 25, 11:19:44pm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Of that top 5 there were three VERY deserving girls and had one of them won, I'm sure there would be some mild complaints but not a total "wtf/head scratcher" moment. I'm not the biggest fan of one of the top five but that particular girl did very well last night and I would have been happy to see her crowned because that's life - the best person should win, even if she's not your favorite. But in this particular case I just have no idea how Kathleen accumulated the most points to win. It doesn't make sense and I have a hard time just blindly accepting this win. Seems very fishy. Author: .. [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 12:54:13am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Of that top 5 there were three VERY deserving girls and had one of them won, I'm sure there would be some mild complaints but not a total "wtf/head scratcher" moment. I'm not the biggest fan of one of the top five but that particular girl did very well last night and I would have been happy to see her crowned because that's life - the best person should win, even if she's not your favorite. But in this particular case I just have no idea how Kathleen accumulated the most points to win. It doesn't make sense and I have a hard time just blindly accepting this win. Seems very fishy. Author: Still stunned [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 05:53:45am I guess n each division, Miss and Teens, that the winners were the CHOSEN ones, prior to Offical judging beginning. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: That talent was an embarrasment to the system. Author: Height is the factor in Miss MD [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 12:24:15am As I scratch my head over the results, I have thought for a number of years that height is a deciding factor in the Miss division and in the Teens the past two previous years. Once again, it appears to be true that if you are a shorter Miss, you have no chance to win. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Were the results read backwards? Author: I agree with you! [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 12:31:19am Kathleen is a stunning girl, but that alone should not be the deciding factor in selecting a winner. I'm very disappointed, because other girls would've represented Maryland better. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: you idiots say this all the time. Results read backward! LOL Author: Dumb [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 12:44:18am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: you idiots say this all the time. Results read backward! LOL Author: Stop your rudeness, people have the right to question the results. (Still stunned) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 05:35:48am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: I'm sorry for all the women who continue to compete here, but if you haven't won yet you won't. The results aren't fair and never will be. Sherry's emphasis is on beauty, how she perceives it and who she wants to represent MD. She doesn't care about talent in the least, last year proved that, and I guess now we can add interview. Don't bother trying to complain or get a straight answer because you won't. Until you can get a look into the scores they're going to keep doing this, but even when you do it won't change anything, it will just validate what you thought all along, trust me ;) Author: . [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 12:41:03am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Were the results read backwards? Author: H. Hetaki (Confused) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 01:01:13am It IS QUITE POSSIBLE...the final 5 were somehow scored/delivered in reverse order.some audience people EVERY year EVERY pageant picks a different winner. But IMO....... Miss Masek clearly had an inferior talent compared to...conservatively... at LEAST 6 of the other 10 SF...She messed up her OSQ answer AGAIN, just like MD USA 16. There she got what the general consensus was...a 4RU finish...she wasnt happy about ( go to pageant update.com find picture of the top five for Maryland USA last year and look at her facial expression in the picture) but she clearly got hung up on the final question so a fourth runner-up finish was what earned.finally, she mathematically won no top placement in INTERVIEW/ SWIM/ TALENT I just hope that if there was a mathematical error or reverse order issue, that the forces that be will take this Sunday in review, find it, then come forward and fix this on Monday. There would be strong emotions all around but there would also I feel be a general sense correcting a commonly felt wrong. If this really was the correct placement, you have to wonder what a seasoned competitor would consider about competing at the Maryland system again, you have now witnessed a quite illogical finish to a state level pageant of the highest notoriety. I do not "do" pageantry. This is just a common woman's take on her 3rd pageant viewing experience. I also did not have family or children competing in pageantry I came to watch a co-worker's daughter compete who does compete regularly so I have become a little familiar with this and the other USA system over the last of years. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: There seemed to be some commotion backstage (visible from the audience) as Susan was announcing the winners. Wondering if this was due to her in fact reading the card backwards. Hope they fix this. Author: Me [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 01:13:44am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Oh please, Susan Powell did not read the results backwards. She has been doing this for far too long to make a mistake like that! Sherry got who she wanted end of story. Wake up people, it's not fair but it's the way it is and you can't change it so move on. Author: . [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 02:11:05am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: That's a stretch Author: --- [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 08:50:30pm #1 the results can't be read backwards! The card clearly says fourth runner up- (name),third runner up-(name), etc., #2 the commotion was because Susan forgot to call the top 5 to line up center stage before she started calling out their ranking, #3 the surprised act by Sherry deserves an academy award, Unfair as it is, Sherry and the board got the Miss Maryland that was handpicked long before the first night of prelims. Hannah sold Kathleen to the board and will personally prep her for Miss America! It's all very sad and disgusting but in the end they think Kathleen's striking look will get her far in the competition but I'd be surprised if they let that lazy talent act anywhere near the television cameras!! If the board is going to handpick girls despite their qualifications they should have auditions for the job and skip the actual pageant [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: same old same old Author: -- [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Tuesday, June 27, 12:51:38am #1 the results cannot have been read backwards! The card clearly says fourth runner up- (name),third runner up-(name), etc., #2 the commotion backstage was because Susan forgot to call the top 5 to line up center stage before she started calling out their ranking, #3 the surprised act by Sherry deserves an academy award, Unfair as it is, Sherry and the board got the Miss Maryland that was handpicked long before the first night of prelims. Hannah sold Kathleen to the board and will personally prep her for Miss America! It's all very sad and disgusting but in the end they think Kathleen's striking look will get her far in the competition but I'd be surprised if they let that lazy talent act anywhere near the television cameras!! If the board is going to handpick girls despite their qualifications they should have auditions for the job and skip the actual pageant [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: They will never skip the pageant. They need you sorry suckers to continue to shell out money while they pay for their trips to AC and Orlando. Anybody ever see a treasurers report or a Annual Report? Author: Nope and you never will [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Tuesday, June 27, 03:50:00am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Were the results read backwards? Author: Your statements are very true, thanks for being honest! [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 05:41:11am It's time to walk away from competing in Miss Maryland or the Teen division, something is off most years with the judging. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: I agree with a poster above: I feel sorry for the girls who keep coming back! Author: They lost my respect!!! [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 03:04:12am Girls, have some dignity and some common sense - if you haven't won yet - the odds are that it is never going to happen! Kathleen and Destiny won on their first try because they better represented Sherri 's taste. Forget four points of a crown. It's time to realize the hypocrisy of pageantry. I hope that one day someone would write an article or a book about vain, futile and corrupt world of pageantry. As for the winner - good luck with not being a total embarrassment for your state at nationals. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: I agree with a poster above: I feel sorry for the girls who keep coming back! Author: Sar Parks [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 03:46:20am Who were the top 10 [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: I agree with a poster above: I feel sorry for the girls who keep coming back! Author: This is very true, they need to walk away. [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 05:49:59am I hope the Miss and Teen contestants listen. It is common for the Directors to prep the judges and set expectations. I just hope one day these ladies walk away from competing MOA in Maryland and never look back. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Typically, the contestants come up in the order they are called from the lineup in for this is the order on the judging sheet. If you notice the question order was different then the callout; and Powell even stumbled with Rachel calling by a different name. It seems there is a huge mixup in the scoring. Author: Not in any Camp [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 03:24:13am Additionally, confusion on Sherry's face as to how that could be the right outcome [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Maryand fans are rarely happy with the winner. This year is no exception. You thought Meadowcroft was robbed last year. You hated Destiny Clark with a passion. You hated Jade Kennedy. You people hate every body and every thing about this organization. The judges picked Masek. You were not on the judges panel. Get over it and please move on! Author: Md [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 04:26:50am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Maryand fans are rarely happy with the winner. This year is no exception. You thought Meadowcroft was robbed last year. You hated Destiny Clark with a passion. You hated Jade Kennedy. You people hate every body and every thing about this organization. The judges picked Masek. You were not on the judges panel. Get over it and please move on! Author: Human Nature to be upset when something seem amiss [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 06:01:51am It's not just MD pageant fans who get upset at State Titleholders being crowned, that don't represent the Four Points of the crown. Other states complain about their systems on Voy Boards, too, when judging appears to be off. We have the right to voice our concerns. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: When the winner is a total head-scratcher, people are naturally going to ask questions. When someone deserving like Brewer wins, there is naturally some "so-and-so should have won" but usually people are able to understand where the judges are coming from. I have NO IDEA how Masek won. It's not clear at all. A total mystery. Author: ... [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 06:12:05am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Were the results read backwards? Author: paggirl97 (sorry maryland) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 04:45:41am miss maryland 2016 and the winner last night (kathleen) are best friends it was politics. if they were not friends kathleen would have no chance. her dance and answer talent is going to be embarrassing for MD in atlantic city [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Hannah was worthy, people barely said anything when she won. She had it all! Author: Disappointed with the system! [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 05:20:52am Destiny was an insult to many people, who value academic achievements and REAL platform. But at least Destiny had an original talent! This year's winner is a joke! Yes, she is pretty, but she didn't stand out, IMO, and I was a neutral observer, who used to compete at another state many years ago. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Were the results read backwards? Author: I'm very disappointed in both Titleholders winners [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 05:23:45am The Miss is beautiful, but little platform work, her talent is not National level, nor were her onstage answers. Other girls were beautiful, too, and they had made more strides in their platform, and had incredible talent! The Teen was not a great choice. Yes, she's talented, but she is overshadowed in all other categories. Any other girl in top 5 would've represented MD better at Nationals. . [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Were the results read backwards? Author: How can Shea, double prelim winner AND OVERALL INTERVIEW not place at least 1st ru!? Not to mention Morgan and Rachel who won Prelims placing at the bottom of the top 5... [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 05:35:09am I was at Prelims and finals and they were consistent... That's why these results make absolutely no sense. I'm so disappointed with this organization. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Shea didn't win because she is a BITCH! Until she become a good person she needs to go home and stay there. The judges see right through that crap. She needs to stop projecting her insecurities and anger on other people! Serves her and Morgan right! Karma is a real thing people! Author: Nasty girls will never win [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 05:49:16am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Shea didn't win because she is a BITCH! Until she become a good person she needs to go home and stay there. The judges see right through that crap. She needs to stop projecting her insecurities and anger on other people! Serves her and Morgan right! Karma is a real thing people! Author: Djejejej [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 06:36:05am How can you say that? What did Shea and Morgan do to you? Do you even know them! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: for finale interview is only part of the 35% composite score, she had a 4 way tie for swim which means no real standout in the group, and she won talent in her group Author: Z [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Tuesday, June 27, 12:58:37am Prelim wins don't always identify overall winner! Depends who is in your group. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: for finale interview is only part of the 35% composite score, she had a 4 way tie for swim which means no real standout in the group, and she won talent in her group Author: . (3 in same group) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sunday, July 09, 01:08:25am Kathleen, Morgan, and Emma were all in same group...Morgan and Emma clearly had stronger talents, Morgan won in prelim swim (if I remember correctly), their OSQs were stronger even if you don't agree with them and their evening gowns stunning...and Emma won miracle maker, academic, and Colombo awards...so she must have had a strong resume. Shea was consistently outstanding in all phases winning prelim talent and OVERALL interview also clearly miles ahead of the winner in talent and stayed true to herself in OSQ, standing by her convictions in her answers (again whether you agree with her or not). Her evening gown although beautiful did minimize her stunning looks. Both Shea ans Morgan in black were underwhelming in gown. The first runner up was also consistently very talented and fit. Her evening gown was among my two favorites both nights along with Emma's. Both were perfect fits and beautifully modeled. Kathleen's dress swallowed her ans did not show her frame at all. It wore her as opposed to her wearing it. Kathleen is clearly taller than the rest, and beautiful in swim but swim is not worth that much in overall score. The other girls were shorter and different body types but just as fit. Miss MD org could have gotten any 9 of the top 10 ready for Atlantic City. I'm afraid that unless kathleen has some other hidden talent, we will not see her in the finals beyond swim maybe. Victoria Graham is an amazing young woman who would have served the state well as she continues to do, she's already put maryland on the national map. The results really tell me there were high expectations about Kathleen so she was scored high and other girls were discounted at the start. By the time the finals came, it was too late? I was there with a friend whose daughter competed in teen. Left very confused!! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Agree with you, very confusing outcome Author: v [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sunday, July 09, 03:10:58pm Agree with you, very confusing outcome. Prelim and scholarship awards are not a good indicator of overall winner since the girls are divided into groups for prelims and it doesn't necessarily mean they had the highest scores overall. The miracle maker raised the most money, the academic award is applied for, and the Colombo award is military based-none have anything to do with the outcome but do show the good character of the girl. The fact that Shea won overall interview and Rachel overall talent should have been reflected in the outcome. While Kathleen is a beautiful girl I don't think she was the most deserving of the crown, even if she had a great interview, her onstage events were not the best and her talent was awful...she skipped 8 counts of her dance on finals night. That is not an attack on her character because I don't know her, just an overall opinion on her performance. All of the other girls in the top five out performed Kathleen in talent and OSQ and looked just as stunning in their gowns and swim. I'm afraid we will find that it takes more than a very pretty face and long legs to do well in September! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Mathematically it looks fishy the new title holder won. I'd demand an audit. Author: Another clapper [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 05:39:33am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Only thing judges got right was Teen winner. Very well deserved. Chloe could be a few Teen who could win Miss. Author: Happy for Teen winner. [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 05:44:40am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: I've seen a lot of the same "Maryland people are never happy" but I haven't seen one person able to defend the judges' choice. There are many informed, pageant-educated people who read this forum. Could someone please explain what the judges saw?? Because I am having a hard time just accepting the winner. Seems very very fishy. Author: ... [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 06:13:31am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Maryland fans. Someone has called Shea Sullivan(double preliminary winner) a bitch and earlier in the week, Lutton was accused of being a bully and needed to be tossed out of the competition because she was "mean" backstage. God what nonsense. And now we have more drama from you people. You constantly complain about the women who compete those who win those who lose. If this organization drives you so crazy. Just leave! The never ending constant chorus of complaint is so typical of Maryland fans. I am sick of it. Congratulations to Masek. She is a beautiful young woman. Author: me again [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 07:31:10am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Maryland fans. Someone has called Shea Sullivan(double preliminary winner) a bitch and earlier in the week, Lutton was accused of being a bully and needed to be tossed out of the competition because she was "mean" backstage. God what nonsense. And now we have more drama from you people. You constantly complain about the women who compete those who win those who lose. If this organization drives you so crazy. Just leave! The never ending constant chorus of complaint is so typical of Maryland fans. I am sick of it. Congratulations to Masek. She is a beautiful young woman. Author: Curious Marylander [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 08:41:11am I wonder if those posting about how Maryland fans always complain were actually at the pageant? It's one thing when a few Negative Nancy's complain on this board every year but something completely different when 80-90% of an audience are in complete shock at the results and even the judges appear confused. Yes Kathleen is a beautiful young woman but that was her only strong qualification. It was my understanding that MAO was more about the total package and.not just about a pretty face and hot body! I don't agree with bashing girls and name calling but in this situation something is definitely fishy!!! 4 out of 5 girls in the top were total packages and the one not nearly as qualified as the others wins.....very suspicious!!! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: I've seen a lot of the same "Maryland people are never happy" but I haven't seen one person able to defend the judges' choice. There are many informed, pageant-educated people who read this forum. Could someone please explain what the judges saw?? Because I am having a hard time just accepting the winner. Seems very very fishy. Author: I was at the pageant, too. Both Miss and Teen pageants winners were off. [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Tuesday, June 27, 05:14:23am MOA is about the 4 parts of the crown.The integrity of Kathleen's win should be questioned all the way to National Miss America board. The Teen will not fare well in Orlando, other Teens more beautiful, had better live, onstage talents, academically strong, and way more and involved in community service. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Not a supporter or hater; many say Sherry choses the winner ahead of time. Not sure on this one, knowing this I keep looking towards her and when top 5 came out she looked as confused as everyone else as if someone else should be there. Then after the announcement she was not happy and did not seem to welcome her as she did with Hannah last year. Author: ???? [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 10:52:05am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Not a supporter or hater; many say Sherry choses the winner ahead of time. Not sure on this one, knowing this I keep looking towards her and when top 5 came out she looked as confused as everyone else as if someone else should be there. Then after the announcement she was not happy and did not seem to welcome her as she did with Hannah last year. Author: It's an act. She knows people were suspicious last year. She looked surprised to cover the fact that she's known the outcome since Masek competed for a local. [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, June 26, 09:27:04pm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: 2018 FINAL Decision Author: Mr. H. HETAKI (FOCUSED) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Tuesday, June 27, 01:51:34am It seems that there is a consensus of fervor that is beyond the norm. I suggest that for those of you who really feel the state system is organically compromised to present a concerted concern to the national board New Jersey I think. The scores are archived and the video is too. Whenever this happens in a sport like say, boxing this is what is reviewed by the State athletic board. If there was shady business during the scoring of a boxing match which is validated by video then people are dealt with. Pageantry is certainly sport-like so complaining just on a voy board won't be enough. Implement an action. thank you. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: If I were the parents or contestants no longer competing, I'd get together and demand to see the scores for the Miss division. What a shame. Author: Crooked pageant [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Tuesday, June 27, 03:33:35am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: 2018 FINAL Decision Author: Maryland MOA is controversial and has lost the Wow factor [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Tuesday, June 27, 06:44:00am Please take your concerns to the National MOA BOARD. THere are many valid concerns that need to be addressed. Too many questions , concerns, coincidences, etc . Maryland is getting weaker and weaker every year with fewer contestants that are actual powerhouses that can bring the very top Miss or Teen Title home to Maryland. We have waited a long time to have a Miss America or Miss Outstanding Teen national title brought home! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Were the results read backwards? Author: Rek [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, July 10, 05:19:04am Kelly chaffin is very pretty seemed like a sweet girl but did she r anyone else think she could win i am glad she is comfy in her own skin but that was in embrassament to the audiance to see her on stage in a bikini please do not pick girls like that [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Kellie is a RockStar!!!! Author: you are not very nice! [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Tuesday, July 11, 09:42:11am Any audience member who was embarrassed should be more embarrassed to admit that! I don't think she expected to win, many girls that compete don't expect to actually win. For some girls pageants are a way to serve the community, promote a platform, and grow confidence. Kellie is an amazing girl, inside and out, with a strong platform and her talent was actually better than the current Miss MD! She worked hard and exuded confidence on the stage!! Maybe Miss Maryland should allow plus sized girls to choose a more modest suit. I'm sure she would have preferred something different but the contestants are required to wear the same suit!! Kudos to her for having the confidence to get out there and rock that bikini! To say plus sized women shouldn't win locals is terrible as they have just as much to add to not only the pageant system, but to their communities, and the world as a whole, as any other woman! Stop judging people by their size! Kellie was just as deserving to be on that stage as any of the other girls!! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: I'd demand an audit, this was clearly a rigged pageant! Rachel D. should have been the winner and I don't even know her. Author: Was in the audience. [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, July 10, 05:32:59am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]