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Subject: Ipatas puts hands up as an alternative PM


Author:
HWaters
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Date Posted: Wed, Apr 23 2008, 05:17:04pm

Ipatas puts hands up as an alternative PM
By HARLYNE JOKU
PEOPLEíS Party parliamentary leader and Enga Governor Peter Ipatas has put his hands up to be prime minister if given the chance.
He indicated this at the Peopleís Party convention held at Amapiak International Lutheran School an hour from Wabag, Enga province, at the weekend.
Mr Ipatasís aspirations to be PM were also supported by Party president Wera Mori who described Mr Ipatas as an action governor and leader who has qualities and the potential of becoming prime minister.
Lutheran Church leader Bishop David Piso and several church leaders also pledged their support for Mr Ipatas to more than 1,000 Engans who attended a dedication service at Aipos Rugby Oval last Thursday to celebrate Enga Day (April 17). They said Mr Ipatas had the qualities to become Prime Minister.
And on Sunday, Bishop Piso preached to his congregation at Irelya Lutheran Church that it was Godís plan that Mr Ipatas should one day become the prime minister of PNG.
People from the surrounding villages that Mr Ipatas and his delegation visited where presented with gifts of pigs, bananas, sugarcane and cartons of softdrinks.
Mr Ipatas said Peopleís Party was the first to lead smaller PNG political parties in hosting its first national convention at Amapiak Lutheran International School, about an hourís drive from Wabag.
More than 200 participants from Bougainville, West New Britain, Sandaun, Gulf, Central and the Highlands provinces attended the two-day convention.
Mr Ipatas said the political convention was the first for the party a national election which indicated the seriousness of the party.
Highlights of the convention were the review of the party policies and adoption of party policies and guidelines based on the principle of bringing positive changes to the lives of all Papua New Guineans.
The Peopleís Party also resolved to accept the one-man PNG Advanced Party of Kompiam-Ambum MP John Pundari to amalgamate with Peopleís Party bringing its strength from three MPs to four.
Mr Ipatas supported by his party president Mori said at the opening of the convention that the Peopleís Party will not thrive on political rhetoricís and lip service to Papua New Guineans while millions of kina were lost along the corridors of Waigani.
He stressed that the Peoples Party believes in a well educated population to advance the country into the 21st Century.
ďThe country needs educated and skilled human resources to stimulate and complement economic activities that will cultivate sustainable development for the long term,Ē Mr Ipatas said. (http://www.thenational.com.pg/042308/nation5.htm)
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What is particularly interesting is........"And on Sunday, Bishop Piso preached to his congregation at Irelya Lutheran Church that it was Godís plan that Mr Ipatas should one day become the prime minister of PNG".......Since when did God endorse or empower thieves to be Kings and where in the scripture and when did a servant of God announce such a prophetic revelation to the people of Israel then an the congregartion now?......Man this is absoltely insance and laughable. This pastor is absolutely misleading is congregationand doing a disservice to his community.

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Hwaters

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Author:
Anti-Piso
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Date Posted: Thu, May 01 2008, 05:38:58pm

F*#@ed up, morally corrupt, A-Hole of a Bishop. What is his job, to do God's work ?? like he is supposed to. Or be Ipatas' sidekick because that's all his been doing.

It's his fault Amapyaka closed down, its a lutheran school, his lack of attention led to the school sutting down. He was running around campaigning for Ipatas them.

I hope Ipatas, the bishop and his crownies burn in hell. They are using the good lord's name in vain.

BURN IN HELL!!!

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Author:
Fr. Robert Plews Laka, SVD (A mockery in God's name?)
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Date Posted: Sun, May 04 2008, 02:55:45am

There seems to be a lot of contradictory scenarios presented in the article by HARLYNE JOKU. Three major scenes came to my sight: someone vying for the countryís top post; a pastorís allegiance and the party presidentís political gimmick.

While Mr. Ipatasí intention may be a valid reason as a citizen and a politician to be the prime minister, many credentials do not seem to justify the nobility of his intention and in fact most of these contradict the office of a genuine leader. We all know the consequence of his leadership in the province for the past 10 years. Any blind Engans will not agree with me, but the irony of these is that, despite us knowing the results, Free Education has been the major argument in his campaign that gained status and kept the momentum of the race and I believe, this had over shadowed the character of a true leader. We all know WHO and WHAT Peter Ipatas had become in terms of his administrative role that lacked a clear vision of the province. Without elaborating the moral character of his leadership, my greatest sigh is the lack of vision his administration created for the province. True enough, Free Education had given relief for some parents and students, but the irony of that relief is that, no jobs were created for the multitude who have benefited from that scheme. (Ten years was enough to equip skilled people to engage in short term goals that would pave ways for long term achievement. I donít know if Ipatas understands the term ďsustainable developmentĒ from the development perspective given by UNDP and other development agencies) There are other indicators of development in the province, but I donít label them as development per se, which lacks proper planning. With the absence of his vision for the province, what good can he envision for the country, should he become the next PM? Experience does speak louder, but experience without vision is an experience without a mission. With these, I question the acclaimed qualities of Ipatas by the so called religious circles affiliated to him and the comments by the political party president.

The good bishopís prophesy of Godís will that such a leader with a deficiency in moral character to be a PM is a blasphemy and mockery to the office he holds as a bishop. While he can argue as a pastor saying, God does not condemn a sinner, but the sin, which I am fully aware of it, however pledging his allegiance to a person who lives double standard of life, makes me question the integrity of the office the bishop holds. Religious leaders in biblical history were too quick to condemn any immoral conducts of the leaders during their time. While acclaiming it as Godís will, others reacted to dubious characters of their political leaders and today in our modern times, still remains the same, however, I donít understand the judgment the bishop has on our leader which prompted him to make such public comments to label it as if it was Godís will. True enough, God has plans for every human being and every politician but I also believe that Godís plan is not manís plan and claiming it to be Godís plan.

These had been the mistakes some Engans have made and will continue to do so to manipulate the system that hinders socio-economic development as well as spiritual development. It is also true that some political croniesí patronized partiality and call it Godís will. I only hope one day, we will go beyond the barriers created through nepotism and moral deficiency in Enga. One day, I believe that the will of God be done, that there will emerges a good leader who is genuine and sincere; a leader bestowed with integrity and transparency, a leader armed with clear vision and a mission to perform that would unite Enga and PNG in a way that do away the political gimmicks of the now. I believe, God wills a leader of sound and good moral character that would emerge to lead the multitude of the simple people of Enga to a prosperous Enga, given the status quo of the province. I believe, it will be but not Ipatas as Piso prophesied.

Fr. Robert Plews Laka, SVD

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Author:
Robert Monike (Ipatas as King)
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Date Posted: Sun, May 04 2008, 06:29:05am

The essence of Ipatas' term as leader of Enga is characterised mainly by the fact that Engans, by and large, have voted him back into office again and again. Does this not illustrate the nature and character of Engans? If you criticise Ipatas you, by extension, criticise Engans for they are responsible for putting a criminal into office.

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Author:
Eagles Eyes
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Date Posted: Sun, May 04 2008, 09:39:12pm

Mr. Monike, Please get to understand that, all his wins were through the back. Majority of the Engans know this and have never spoken out. They have been blind folded with Ipatas' heavy cash handouts. You must be one of the few lured by Ipatas' cash handouts. Bro, open your mind and just look at the state of Wabag Town rather than other infrastructures.
Yet he wanted to be a PM, Im wonder what type of vision he has for PNG if he can't do it at a smaller scale.

Read and understand the facts outlined by Robert P.svd. He has written for the have nots (Majority Engans)

Open_up

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Author:
Fr. Robert P. Laka, SVD (Not justified)
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Date Posted: Sun, May 04 2008, 10:58:56pm

My friend, I have no objection to your opinion on what Engans by large hold on Mr. Ipatas, however, this is debatable because this is not the view of all of Enga, though some maybe held accountable for voting him in, I even cannot use the term "vote" in this scenario. If millions of kinas have been used and ballot papers being hijacked, and destroyed, I refuse to call it a "vote". My paper does not criticize all Engans per se, but indeed it criticize the selected few Engans who are affiliated to the club that promotes partiality. This is a negligence of civic rights people have. If that is what peoples what, then let it be, but this may not go unheard.

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Robert Monike (If Ipatas is a criminal?)
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Date Posted: Mon, May 05 2008, 07:02:21am

OK Mr Laka, if that is so then why has not the Engan population ever complained to the electoral commission or to the police? It is because Ipatas symbolises the collapse of papua New Guinea. The Engan Governor is a joke. How can a criminal govern with the express compliance of the Engan population, the police, judiciary and even your church? Because Enga, as well as PNG, has collapsed into a rotting pile of corrupted garbage. The nation of Papua New Guinea is as big a joke as is Ipatas and you know it, Mr Laka. All your kinky religious words do not obfuscate the reality of Ipatas the criminal and Enga the criminal province.

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Author:
Fr. Robert P. Laka, svd (My patriotism)
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Date Posted: Mon, May 05 2008, 02:42:59pm

Mr. Monike, the problem I have is the problem you have stated in a question which you yourself have answered. I still cannot understand why Engan population cannot stand up against anything fishy like that. Maybe there are more then just simple intellectual logics to be applied in the context of Engan worldviews, or maybe PNG is yet to grasp the nature of traditional leadership style (bigman mentality) to a modern day leadership, (democracy). But that does not negate the possibility of change in Enga and PNG politics. The problem I have though is the way in which the content of my note on the hope I have raised was labeled into some ďkinky religious wordĒ into mere confusion. This alone makes my position ďobfuscatesĒ the ideologies you have and the realities present in Enga and PNG. The critique of your argument, ďIpatas the criminal and Enga the criminal provinceĒ does not reflect the positions of many good Engans have. At the same time, it does not represent my patriotism for Enga as her son to label it as a "criminal province".

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Author:
Radical
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Date Posted: Sun, May 04 2008, 09:57:18pm

I think Reverend David Piso should resign as the Head Bishop of Gutnius Lutheran Church of PNG for his deliberately misleading sermon in a pact Sunday Service at Irelya Village where Governor Ipatas comes from. Since when did God impress upon him that Governor Ipatas will become the PM one day, if he is referring to the same Peter Ipatas that Enga and PNG know of? I mean David must be insane to say that, otherwise he is using his position to impress Ipatas to gain materialistically instead of depending on the Higher Office of God his needs. He is simply misleading the church and such false prophet should be denounced and voted out before he does more damage.
As far as PNG and Enga is concerned, Governor Ipatas is a gona in terms of PNG politics and is surviving on a very thin line. I was in fact embarrassed to read the Paper recently that he put his hand up for PM post should it become vacant, just like I was angry when he hugged Chief Somare to surrender his leadership rights for ever...sorry oh what you want now?

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Author:
Kandepian Wane
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Date Posted: Sun, May 04 2008, 10:32:59pm

I agree Governor Ipatas has sold all his leadership rights cheaply as bean soup to Chief MT Somare and NA Party under the watchful eyes of PNG last year.
Governor must be rest assured that however hard he wishes and envies and spends to beome a Prime Minister of PNG he will never be one so long as the same people are alive.
Firstly, I am with svd Robert in his critical analysis of Ipatas that, in this changing world people like Ipatas do not have a place. He is like a rotten egg so where does Bishop David gets his revelation from?

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tony
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Date Posted: Mon, May 05 2008, 10:44:40am

Guys, thought 2007 elections igo pinis? NA and the allies are reaping what they have sown? Did Ipatas and Piso's God igo malolo when PNG went for elections?
Are there any PP's 'mono andaege' plans that PNG is not aware of?

If you did not know, Enga rejected Ipatas as the alternate PM, he boasted to have 6 MP's from Enga to start off but the people of Enga gave him a 'big kiau' and return him as the Governor. He should be content with that and let alone national politics... Tingim PNG is a country and Enga is 1/20 provinces in PNG?????

I PERSONALLY THOUGHT THE GATHERING AT AMEPIAK WAS A KUMANDA?

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Author:
Enga Ombudsman
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Date Posted: Mon, May 05 2008, 03:47:22pm

One very fine day, I still believe that Only an Engan will deliver this nation from captivity and lead PNG to prosperity. And that will be the time When Corruption will become history in PNG.
And Ipatas is not that chosen Engan. Ipatas is a local Bingo Master just making alot of noise because firstly he is elected the second time and thirdly that he has a party and finally he has the money (collection from playing Bingo) to back him up.
He dreaming of becomming a PM is an illusion from my understanding.
But he is the rightfully elected governor of Enga. At any era, a leader is always appointed by God whether you like it or not. And he has his own timmings to replace a leader. Maybe the others who have challenged
Ipatas last year might be far more worse that Ipatas? Who knows? Only the nature knows.
Right now support the Elected Governor to develop our Province. You go home and make a difference in your local areas and that way you will help develop Enga. So the point is: He is still the Action Governor of Enga and that must be respected at all cost by all citizens of Enga.

The poor Bishop must be replaced immediately And the priest must also be a neutral man. I'm a catholic myself and if I"m right, a priest is not allowed to contest elections. The Priest must not use the initial FR. infront of his name that is if the priest contributing here is the same priest who challenged Ipatas last year. You may come up with some very constructive arguments and ideas but at all times, you profession is to be nuetral and help people.

Cheers!

Enga Ombudsman

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Author:
Fr. Robert Plews Laka (Corrections)
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Date Posted: Mon, May 05 2008, 05:59:48pm

Enga Ombudsman, (I like that term "ombudsman" in this blog). I acknowledge the position of your stand; however, I want to clear myself that, the priest who contested in the last election and the priest in this blog are not the same person. I guess this is what an "ombudsman" does here to check on the facts. More so, the point you have raised as a "catholic" does not speak my mind as a son of Enga, though priesthood is the office I hold, and you are partly right, that we are to be neutral. However, I want to stress further that this does not mean that a priest shuts himself away from issues that affects peoples and remain neutral as you perceive on the role of priesthood. Priest may be ministers with special duties, I agree with you but let us know that they also have right to run for public offices as a CITIZEN of a country, like the current president of Paraguay in Latin America who was a former catholic bishop. If you ask me why, well, I guess it is up to the choices they make, despite the office they carry as catholic ministers.

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Author:
sick of Ipatas
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Date Posted: Thu, May 08 2008, 04:35:28pm

Ipatas is so gone by the next election, nor is he ever going to be PM. Look at his members from his so called Dream team. Why is Sam Abal and Don not part of Ipatas' party. The two must not have faith in Ipatas to become PM.

Ipatas is power hungry, and as long as he is alive, he will seek that till the day he dies (which i hope is sooner!)

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Author:
Samben (won't happen)
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Date Posted: Tue, May 20 2008, 04:23:28am

Just don't hope for something that won't happen Mr. Sick. It won't happen soon as you wished.

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Author:
Enga Ombudsman
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Date Posted: Tue, May 27 2008, 04:06:36pm

Samben and Sick of Ipatas must not let their emotion control their way of contribution here. I believe what you two have said are immoral adn unacceptable as a true engan.

Today's decaying of Engan's moralily has infected you twos already.
" In Enga, Its inhuman to say koperali to a koperali, or a mondopingi to a mondo pingi". There are problems and circumstances that Ipatas may go through but to me as an He is still my governor of Enga. That is regardless of whether I like him or not.

Thank you

Enga Ombudsman

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