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Subject: Re: Ipatas puts hands up as an alternative PM


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Anti-Piso
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Date Posted: Thu, May 01 2008, 05:38:58pm
In reply to: HWaters 's message, "Ipatas puts hands up as an alternative PM" on Wed, Apr 23 2008, 05:17:04pm

F*#@ed up, morally corrupt, A-Hole of a Bishop. What is his job, to do God's work ?? like he is supposed to. Or be Ipatas' sidekick because that's all his been doing.

It's his fault Amapyaka closed down, its a lutheran school, his lack of attention led to the school sutting down. He was running around campaigning for Ipatas them.

I hope Ipatas, the bishop and his crownies burn in hell. They are using the good lord's name in vain.

BURN IN HELL!!!

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Author:
Fr. Robert Plews Laka, SVD (A mockery in God's name?)
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Date Posted: Sun, May 04 2008, 02:55:45am

There seems to be a lot of contradictory scenarios presented in the article by HARLYNE JOKU. Three major scenes came to my sight: someone vying for the countryís top post; a pastorís allegiance and the party presidentís political gimmick.

While Mr. Ipatasí intention may be a valid reason as a citizen and a politician to be the prime minister, many credentials do not seem to justify the nobility of his intention and in fact most of these contradict the office of a genuine leader. We all know the consequence of his leadership in the province for the past 10 years. Any blind Engans will not agree with me, but the irony of these is that, despite us knowing the results, Free Education has been the major argument in his campaign that gained status and kept the momentum of the race and I believe, this had over shadowed the character of a true leader. We all know WHO and WHAT Peter Ipatas had become in terms of his administrative role that lacked a clear vision of the province. Without elaborating the moral character of his leadership, my greatest sigh is the lack of vision his administration created for the province. True enough, Free Education had given relief for some parents and students, but the irony of that relief is that, no jobs were created for the multitude who have benefited from that scheme. (Ten years was enough to equip skilled people to engage in short term goals that would pave ways for long term achievement. I donít know if Ipatas understands the term ďsustainable developmentĒ from the development perspective given by UNDP and other development agencies) There are other indicators of development in the province, but I donít label them as development per se, which lacks proper planning. With the absence of his vision for the province, what good can he envision for the country, should he become the next PM? Experience does speak louder, but experience without vision is an experience without a mission. With these, I question the acclaimed qualities of Ipatas by the so called religious circles affiliated to him and the comments by the political party president.

The good bishopís prophesy of Godís will that such a leader with a deficiency in moral character to be a PM is a blasphemy and mockery to the office he holds as a bishop. While he can argue as a pastor saying, God does not condemn a sinner, but the sin, which I am fully aware of it, however pledging his allegiance to a person who lives double standard of life, makes me question the integrity of the office the bishop holds. Religious leaders in biblical history were too quick to condemn any immoral conducts of the leaders during their time. While acclaiming it as Godís will, others reacted to dubious characters of their political leaders and today in our modern times, still remains the same, however, I donít understand the judgment the bishop has on our leader which prompted him to make such public comments to label it as if it was Godís will. True enough, God has plans for every human being and every politician but I also believe that Godís plan is not manís plan and claiming it to be Godís plan.

These had been the mistakes some Engans have made and will continue to do so to manipulate the system that hinders socio-economic development as well as spiritual development. It is also true that some political croniesí patronized partiality and call it Godís will. I only hope one day, we will go beyond the barriers created through nepotism and moral deficiency in Enga. One day, I believe that the will of God be done, that there will emerges a good leader who is genuine and sincere; a leader bestowed with integrity and transparency, a leader armed with clear vision and a mission to perform that would unite Enga and PNG in a way that do away the political gimmicks of the now. I believe, God wills a leader of sound and good moral character that would emerge to lead the multitude of the simple people of Enga to a prosperous Enga, given the status quo of the province. I believe, it will be but not Ipatas as Piso prophesied.

Fr. Robert Plews Laka, SVD

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Author:
Robert Monike (Ipatas as King)
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Date Posted: Sun, May 04 2008, 06:29:05am

The essence of Ipatas' term as leader of Enga is characterised mainly by the fact that Engans, by and large, have voted him back into office again and again. Does this not illustrate the nature and character of Engans? If you criticise Ipatas you, by extension, criticise Engans for they are responsible for putting a criminal into office.

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Author:
Eagles Eyes
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Date Posted: Sun, May 04 2008, 09:39:12pm

Mr. Monike, Please get to understand that, all his wins were through the back. Majority of the Engans know this and have never spoken out. They have been blind folded with Ipatas' heavy cash handouts. You must be one of the few lured by Ipatas' cash handouts. Bro, open your mind and just look at the state of Wabag Town rather than other infrastructures.
Yet he wanted to be a PM, Im wonder what type of vision he has for PNG if he can't do it at a smaller scale.

Read and understand the facts outlined by Robert P.svd. He has written for the have nots (Majority Engans)

Open_up

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Author:
Fr. Robert P. Laka, SVD (Not justified)
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Date Posted: Sun, May 04 2008, 10:58:56pm

My friend, I have no objection to your opinion on what Engans by large hold on Mr. Ipatas, however, this is debatable because this is not the view of all of Enga, though some maybe held accountable for voting him in, I even cannot use the term "vote" in this scenario. If millions of kinas have been used and ballot papers being hijacked, and destroyed, I refuse to call it a "vote". My paper does not criticize all Engans per se, but indeed it criticize the selected few Engans who are affiliated to the club that promotes partiality. This is a negligence of civic rights people have. If that is what peoples what, then let it be, but this may not go unheard.

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Author:
Robert Monike (If Ipatas is a criminal?)
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Date Posted: Mon, May 05 2008, 07:02:21am

OK Mr Laka, if that is so then why has not the Engan population ever complained to the electoral commission or to the police? It is because Ipatas symbolises the collapse of papua New Guinea. The Engan Governor is a joke. How can a criminal govern with the express compliance of the Engan population, the police, judiciary and even your church? Because Enga, as well as PNG, has collapsed into a rotting pile of corrupted garbage. The nation of Papua New Guinea is as big a joke as is Ipatas and you know it, Mr Laka. All your kinky religious words do not obfuscate the reality of Ipatas the criminal and Enga the criminal province.

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Author:
Fr. Robert P. Laka, svd (My patriotism)
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Date Posted: Mon, May 05 2008, 02:42:59pm

Mr. Monike, the problem I have is the problem you have stated in a question which you yourself have answered. I still cannot understand why Engan population cannot stand up against anything fishy like that. Maybe there are more then just simple intellectual logics to be applied in the context of Engan worldviews, or maybe PNG is yet to grasp the nature of traditional leadership style (bigman mentality) to a modern day leadership, (democracy). But that does not negate the possibility of change in Enga and PNG politics. The problem I have though is the way in which the content of my note on the hope I have raised was labeled into some ďkinky religious wordĒ into mere confusion. This alone makes my position ďobfuscatesĒ the ideologies you have and the realities present in Enga and PNG. The critique of your argument, ďIpatas the criminal and Enga the criminal provinceĒ does not reflect the positions of many good Engans have. At the same time, it does not represent my patriotism for Enga as her son to label it as a "criminal province".

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