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Subject: Re: Ok, on a lighter note...

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Chichiri

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Date Posted: 21:20:28 05/01/03 Thu
In reply to: Jake 's message, "Re: Ok, on a lighter note..." on 17:54:27 05/01/03 Thu

*snips stuff*

>--snip stuff about Kenshin's polite way of speech--
>>Although a sub cannot translate this (hell they used
>>him repeating himself like "I am Kenshin, yes I am"),
>>a sub still at the very least maintains the voices and
>>inflections.
>
>This was poorly done in both the sub and, from what I
>hear, the dub. However, I think it could have been
>handled best by a dub. I watched the sub and wasn't
>really aware of a change in Kenshin's tone of voice
>when he switched from "polite Kenshin" to "pissed off
>Kenshin." And it took me a while to figure out that
>the lack of "that it is" tack-ons meant that he was in
>dangerous mode.

Well, in general this is hard to translate 'cause the biggest hint that he's made the switch is the pronoun he uses for "I". When he's the hitokiri battousai he uses "ore" which is a fairly rough and rude version of "I" while when he's polite Kenshin, he uses "sessha" which is archaic and very polite.

>A dub could have handled this by
>having the actor change his voice without adding silly
>crap to the end of his sentences. A sub is stuck with
>either adding stuff to his sentences or making a note
>like "Kenshin is now using polite speech" and "Kenshin
>is now using normal speech" every time he switches.

Not really. If you are very careful in translation of his polite dialog (and make it somewhat archaic sounding) like I suggested in another post then making him sound less polite and more modern when he's the battousai would probably convey the correct meaning across. Some things will still be lost just because of the differences between English and Japanese, but it would catch the gist of it quite a bit better, I think. Whoever translated Kenshin just did a pretty poor job of conveying the language subtleties. ^_^;;;

*snips remainder*

Chichiri

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Subject	Author	Date
Re: Kenshin	Jake	21:50:16 05/01/03 Thu
Re: Kenshin -- Chichiri, 22:27:32 05/01/03 Thu Re: Kenshin -- LrdDimwit, 06:05:25 05/02/03 Fri Re: Kenshin -- Chichiri, 06:36:15 05/02/03 Fri Re: Kenshin -- LrdDimwit, 06:43:43 05/02/03 Fri Re: Kenshin -- Chichiri, 06:54:01 05/02/03 Fri