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Author: Curious Ram [Edit]
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Date Posted: 10:50:56 03/11/05 Fri
Listen I am not here to bash or say I am going to kill you anything, I really want to know what it is that makes you hate football, whatever the reason is. Since you people asked why should football be kept, I want to know why you personally want it abolished. I know you said they spend too much money, but is that money changing your wallets. The chances are you all are upper class rich kids. Your parents paid for your ed. Do you think getting rid of football will lower your tuition? It wont. You can look at the records over history, it does suck, Fordham has been a bad team historically, but what effect does it have on you, none. Even if you guys play one of the other sports that don't receive any attention you can't imagine that because football is gone someone will give a shit about the golf or crew team. The fact is if football is abolished it will hurt the Athletic department more than help it. They would lose around 45% of the money that is donated. Football and Basketball makes up about 90% of donation money so the AD would lose money. Also I would love to know why you don't hate basketball. They suck every year and have only made it to the postseason a couple of times, why don't you want them abolished. You guys also say that the football team is arrogant, mean, disrepectful, and other things. Do you think getting rid of football is going to rid Fordham of people like that.It isn't. The fact is the amount of people that act lke that is small. Look at people like Kevin Eakin, Wallace House, Pete MOdelski, and I could go on and on. They are model students.
So in conclusion to me it looks like you guys don't want the football team there because you feel like they don't belong there. You want FOrdham to be a school of preppy white boys and girls. All of the reasons you say to get rid of football doesn't have any bearing on your life. You want them gone because of who they are not what they have done. Now if I am wrong I welcome you to prove me wrong. Once again I am not here calling you stupid or anything like that I want to hear your side.
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- I could name more players than you mentioned who have spent the weekend in jail-It's a blight -- Minion, 11:00:28 03/11/05 Fri
- What's your point Minion? 22 of your precious little angel regular students were arrested during one weekend last year. None football players!!! To the poster, the rumor about these guys is that they were loud mouths who got knocked around by the players b/c they deserved it. They're little spoiled brats that have no friends and completely resent football players. I was also told that one of these losers girlfriends in college took a liking to football players over her own b/f. -- explayer, 11:17:15 03/11/05 Fri
- If the school isn't worried about the cost y should u be.I am really trying 2 c it from ur point of view,but u r not making any sense. All u have said Minion is that b/c players have gone to jail the team should be dismantled.So I guess,Notre Dame,Colorado,Florida State,Miami,and a lot more teams in America should b abolished.Once again eveyone in AFF has something in common,I believe a single or group of FB players did something to u.Did they beat u up, Mess with your girlfiend, Insult u, Crash your party, what was it.U obviously wasn't man enough to stand up for yourself in person so now u must get your anger out over the internet.Listen Next time a man rips your balls off, punch him in the face and take them back. Don't go home and insult and annoy other people that have nothing to do with it. Did Prince, JoDete,R.Marrin ever mess with you guys, I don't think so. But in conclusion the u can still state your case, I am ready to read it and understand where you are coming from -- Current Ram, 16:50:53 03/11/05 Fri
- hahaha nicely put Current Ram... Glad to see Fordham's admission requirements are still high!!! Don't waste too much time on these guys though, they're jokes! -- FU '04, 17:20:45 03/11/05 Fri
- First of all I wrote it like that so everything I said would be 1000 characters or less.Second of all you still have not a said any reasons.Frank's Brain said because Prince backtracked on something he said.Everyone does that even though what he said on the other board,which I read,wasn't the way you put it.But besides that it still seems like you guys have a problem with the team because of who is on the team and not what the team has done.I mean track sucks, the mens crew team sucks, baseball sucks, tennis sucks, basketball sucks.I mean Over the last the last four years,football has had the most success.Basketball had one shining moment when they beat St.Johns.Be honest you want football gone b/c the team is mostly made up of minorities and so-called white trash.That's the real reason isn't,you guys are a bunch a blue-blood rich kids and the socio-economic make-up of the team doesn't suit you.Just be man enough and say it because this is the only place you will say it. -- Current Ram, 09:59:48 03/12/05 Sat
- you're barking up the wrong tree, you fucking idiot....to even suggest that there is some kind of racism going on here you have to be truly stupid...none of us (repeat NONE) have ever made a racist comment on this board, and those few who have (non-AFF) have had their posts deleted immediately, you jerkoff.....why cant you except the fact that fordhma football alone has left an extrmemly bad taste in our mouths and we want it gone, simple as that -- NDH, 11:07:19 03/12/05 Sat
- Now I have been respectful,I never cursed or called u an idiot. It's just funny that you can't come up with any reason that effects you.You can't.You would rather see 60 or so people not get the opportunity to get a Fordham education because someone pissed you off.Now that is fucking stupid.All u fucks can talk about is that "the team is asswholes, they spend to much of the schools money, and other bullshit.You attack one person for furthering his football career for no reason other than the fact that he responded to your stupid posts.Now if you can or if you have the balls answer the question.What will abolishing football do to your life personally?Nothing, it won't make your life better,it won't save you money,It won't make you more important.Instead of trying to bash me,answer the question.Justify it, stop using the school's budget as a cover-up.Be a fucking man.Because the only reason I see is that we scare you,make you feel uncomfortable,thats the only reason I see. -- Current Ram, 13:03:33 03/12/05 Sat
- You haven't made the statement but if you read between the lines then you get the real story. -- explayer, 13:06:14 03/12/05 Sat
- Yes, all those white kids from the suburbs from St. Ignatius and Delbarton those are really minority kids., Wake up. -- Chief Nakahoma, 12:27:51 03/12/05 Sat
- how did this turn into minorities and white trash statements. i assure you we at aff hate all of FF equally despite background. its the establishment of football on campus that we despise. (NT) -- baron, 16:09:20 03/13/05 Sun
- so i guess if you can play football, you deserve a great education... is that what your saying. alot of players take take spots that could go to students who woud use the education alot more appropriatly. for instance they would show up at class, and callenge themselves with course selections instead of letting the FF administration chose there classes and set their schedules. this isnt true of all players but we all know that a majority of them just coast through. (NT) -- baron, 14:05:47 03/14/05 Mon
- oh i see, if your not an athlete, you have tons of free time cause there is nothing else to do on or around campus. come on man. everyone on campus has a schedule or life to live, it just doesnt revolve around football. dont turn yourself into a martyr. i know for a fact you can have schedules made for you. i know for a fact you can have your laundry done for you. i know for a fact you get money to take out potential freshman to bars. why do you deserve any of it. -- baron, 16:21:42 03/14/05 Mon
- You are lying FOR A FACT. The only laundry that gets washed for us is our practice clothes and game stuff, every team can get their Fordham gear washed for them. Second of all there is only a couple of instances when we are given money. One is our refund checks for not using all of our grant.(Which is fucking great b/c people get back anywhere from 1k-7k. Isn't that great), We get up to 300 dollars from the A-10, and book money. Whats wrong with that its great, you don't get it you piece of shit. -- Current Ram, 10:27:11 03/15/05 Tue
- Just to finish that up, We get 60 dollars to feed a recruit with for two days. And they the school forbids us from taking the recruits to bars. And schedules are only made for incoming freshman. They recommend what classes to take and when, but what is wrong with that. And by the way, not many of you regular students who live on campus works, most of you live off of CEO daddy and lawyer mommy, so you do have a lot more free time. -- Current Ram, 10:31:22 03/15/05 Tue
- if your getting grant money back you obviously dont need it for tuition, so you can go to school without a footballs cholorship. your shooting yourself here. 60$ on food for two days!!!!!! i guess yuou take em to arthur ave. we all know you take em to bars, dont play a saint now. and ohhh my god you think football players are the only ones who need money to attend a college, i had a grant and scholorship. i didnt get any back cause it went to the f-ing school. and out of curiosity, when the school p[ays for your books do you still get the return money at the end of the semester....... -- baron, 14:27:04 03/15/05 Tue
- Oh yes we defintely get the return money at the end of the semester. To be honest I didn't even buy books, I just checked them out, or borrowed them and kept all of the money for myself. Isn't that great. Every single dime of grant money that we didn't use we got back in a refund check. Some people especially New Yorks got a lot of money. They would get a 30k football grant, 3K pell grant, and 5K TAP money. TAP is a grant just for New Yorkers. And then if you didn't stay on campus you got your housing money too. Now we all know rent on say Crotona Ave, is only about 6K a person for an entire year lease. We got the amount that it would cost to live in a dorm, so again we would pocket another couple of thousand. Its great being a football player!!! -- Current Ram, 22:38:35 03/15/05 Tue
- It is great to be a football player.That 60 bucks you're talking about is for food,but the school provides meals anyway so we spend that money on booze and stripper parties.We all pool the money together and get 2-3 strippers for the recruits.Thats how they got me,fuck the education.Since you are convinced we are mindless jocks then I guess I will entertain you and be one.But I'm a mindless jock with strippers, booze, and money.And to respond to your other comment,I do not think fB players are the only ones that need money for school.I knew football players who had to take out loans,but we are in need a lot more than the average Fordham Student and if you look at it at least we sacrifice something for the money.It is a lot harder to get up for 6am runs, and lift 4 times a week, and practice, and condition, than it is to just go to school work.But it doesn' t matter,we don't have to work.Oh and by the way when we stay during the summer we get cake walk jobs that pay great. -- Current Ram, 22:48:03 03/15/05 Tue
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