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> >>What I would most like to see is a righting of all the >>wrongs that the JA has done throughout it's history, >>transparency is a key and also a financial >>contribution to those people who gave over five years >>of their lives into the place. > >Why? they knew the deal when they got into it - don't >see why the JA should give them anything. Presumably >you are suggesting that the gambling industry and the >brewing industry should subsidise their recovering >addicts as well? > >People joined the JA for a variety of reasons, some >because they felt that was what their God wanted, some >wanted a crutch, others just couldn't cope with real >life anymore! Whatever you say about the JA, they >never pinned anybody down and forced them to join - >all these folk went into the thing with their eyes >open only with varied motivations. > >What is it about society that is obsessed with people >being set free from the consequenses of their >actions???? > >Perhaps the only exception to this rule is for >community kids who I do feel some degree of sympathy >for. Unfortunately, again, it is not the JA who should >be asking for forgiveness. These kids were wronged by >their parents and it is the parents who are to blame. >I lived in community for 2 decades and my kids did >suffer because of it. The thing is, that if I've >screwed my kids lives up by making any choice in my >life; I answer for it. My Dad raped me. It was not >societys' fault. It was not any Churchs' fault. It was >not the Medias' fault. It was down to him. > > Some people have been >>left with a legacy of near poverty through devoting >>their lives to the place. >>I believe that children who grew up in the commune >>should be sought out and asked for forgiveness etc. >> >>I do believe that if there were a real change of >>leadership then there could be a real purpose for JA >>continuing. >> >>I also believe that they need to allow outside >>teachers to come in and teach the basic truths of >>Christianity to the whole church rather than holding >>people back from this. > >If you think that there is a place for the JA in >society then I can't see how turning them into another >mainstream socially acceptable community church would >possibly help anyone. There are thousands of those. >What do you think This purpose would be? >>>Its a bad do when you feel the need to reply to your >>>>own messages. Perhaps you need an all weather hobby. >>>> >>> >>>:) >>>That's what the girlfriend says...get out to the >>>garage, where the project has been idle while >learning >>>to fly. In point of fact, I have an exam to study >for, >>>which is why I am skiving here! Typical evasive >>>behaviour! >>> >>>But the main reason I replied to my own was to lift >>>this thread in the hope that we can get back to >>>talking about the subject of the forum, the JA.
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