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Date Posted: 11:55:17 10/19/03 Sun
Author: Vijay - 21 Jul 2003
Subject: Re: Lord Krishna
In reply to: Rajneesh - 21 Jul 2003 's message, "Re: Lord Krishna" on 11:54:03 10/19/03 Sun

I believe it so. It’s the same with all great masters like Jesus, Krishna, Rama, Babaji etc. They all were ordinary mortals like us in their previous incarnations and were fully liberated and became one with supreme God. They could only identify themselves with God, as everything is He. When Krishna talked to Arjuna He could only say that he is God as body was the temporary vehicle that He descended to.

To better understand read this that I found in one of the sites. Though it may not be fully accurate as author himself says it gives an idea to understand:

“I would like you now to imagine a very large container full of water. This water is one indivisible body of water, whole and homogenous. It is the same water throughout the container. There aren’t several kinds of water, just one homogenous body of water.

Imagine you take a large piece of sponge and begin tearing it down into many parts. Each piece is different from the other. One piece is round, the other rectangular and another shapeless. One is large the other is small. All of the pieces are thrown into the water and get saturated. Remember, each part of water, in each piece of sponge is the same water, and the pieces of sponge, all come from the same one sponge.

Now suppose that the quantity of water in each piece of sponge, forgets that it is water, and thinks and believes that it is itself the piece of sponge. The water forgets it is water, one whole homogenous body of water. This erroneous identification causes the water in each piece of sponge to identify and consider itself as being a separate sponge.

This identification causes differences of opinion and clashes between the sponges in the container. Some of the pieces want to rule the others. Some consider themselves larger and stronger. Others consider themselves weaker, some beautiful, others ugly. Some may inflict suffering on others or suffer themselves. They regard the their relationships as real, and unite against other groups. They might also have their happy moments.

Remember that what is happening is due to an erroneous idea. The water is not the sponge. Whatever is happening in this container is illusory, yet experienced by the water and sponges as real. The happiness and suffering are considered as real. The sponges become as if alive because of the life principle inherent in the water.

All this sounds ludicrous, but this is what happens in our life. The water is the Spirit, Universal Consciousness, Universal Mind, Life Principle, First Principle, God, or whatever you call the Supreme power, and the pieces of sponge are the physical bodies. This metaphor may not be exact, but it illustrates human life.

It is the Spirit trying to express itself through the body and physical existence that creates the illusionary ego. “

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  • Re: Lord Krishna -- Niraji - 21 Jul 2003, 11:56:00 10/19/03 Sun
  • Re: Lord Krishna -- Rajneesh - 21 Jul 2003, 11:57:01 10/19/03 Sun
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