VoyForums
[ Show ]
Support VoyForums
[ Shrink ]
VoyForums Announcement: Programming and providing support for this service has been a labor of love since 1997. We are one of the few services online who values our users' privacy, and have never sold your information. We have even fought hard to defend your privacy in legal cases; however, we've done it with almost no financial support -- paying out of pocket to continue providing the service. Due to the issues imposed on us by advertisers, we also stopped hosting most ads on the forums many years ago. We hope you appreciate our efforts.

Show your support by donating any amount. (Note: We are still technically a for-profit company, so your contribution is not tax-deductible.) PayPal Acct: Feedback:

Donate to VoyForums (PayPal):

Login ] [ Contact Forum Admin ] [ Main index ] [ Post a new message ] [ Search | Check update time | Archives: 123[4]5 ]


[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

Date Posted: 09:11:25 10/14/02 Mon
Author: 老陳
Subject: 也不知所謂
In reply to: 小鄧 's message, "再嚴肅一點" on 21:44:11 10/13/02 Sun

關於「思維考題」的事情,我覺得有一點是必須要說的。

資本主義社會的邏輯就是,設定一個環境,然後說是人人平等,你做得不好、沒有好的生活就是你個人的問題。人們生活其中,不斷追求社會所提出的價值,沒有反思能力而且社會無法出現激烈改革。
(@@:資本主義的基本原則是在公平的法制下絕不妨礙你搵錢,至於法制是否公平是否真的能制是另一個值得激辯的論題,卻與先前所有討論無涉,無端牽扯其中,不明所以,至於你對資本主義的邏輯的所謂詮釋,不知所謂。)

所以,我自己覺得,在資本主義的「競爭至上思維」之下,最難能可貴的是對環境、已有條件是否合理的反省和質疑。
(@@: 競爭至上的思維,從森林裡勝者為王,羅馬鬥獸場,中國科舉制,中共乒乓球外交,不勝枚舉,不同的社會制度均曾著重運用過此「思維」,資本主義獨得其罪,有冇搞錯?)

而「思維考題」的大量批判,顯示(某些)人類畢竟對設定環境和條件的荒謬不是毫無抵抗能力。別人提出考題,不理好醜就撲上去投入參與以表現自己能力,有興趣的人可以繼續這樣,祝願你們在這個社會裡擁有強大的競爭力。
而我,難免因為批判的人為數不少而暗暗歡喜。

概之,我覺得對這個「思維考題」的批判是有意義的,是非形式教育的一種。一個討論版能做到這樣的事很難得,如果那是我的討論版,我會引以為豪。

(@@: 既然話要更嚴肅一點老陳難免皺眉,真的要批要判就不能只批一邊,免得招人話柄。老陳他日錯時你也直批可也。你的意見其實就這最後二段就夠清楚了,愈搞愈複雜,盞搞,而且好煩。)

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]


Replies:


[ Contact Forum Admin ]


Forum timezone: GMT-8
VF Version: 3.00b, ConfDB:
Before posting please read our privacy policy.
VoyForums(tm) is a Free Service from Voyager Info-Systems.
Copyright © 1998-2019 Voyager Info-Systems. All Rights Reserved.