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Date Posted: 09:29:21 03/17/09 Tue
Author: Lyman Van Horn
Subject: lowering scores

Can anyone out there say that the 1 irons that they purchased really lowered their scoring.

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[> Re: lowering scores -- Trevor, 10:59:09 03/17/09 Tue

I went from a 20 handicap to a 10 within two months of playing 1 Irons. From the moment I started playing them my shots were straighter and longer with all the clubs over my old set. It's rare that I miss-hit any shot from tee to green which has let me concentrate on scoring instead of getting out of trouble. No question that playing 1 Irons will lower anybody's score.


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[> [> Re: lowering scores -- Tyler Guthrie (Tyler ( I'm Getting there ) Guthriet), 19:44:30 03/17/09 Tue

Lyman , I can only use words to convince you ! But if you lived in Collierville , I could back it up with with consistant shots ... on the range and also the course ! I was stuck in the mid to high ninties for the past 4 months ! Busted 100 a few times ! I am very athletic but was loosing intrest quick ! Now , I can't wait to practice ! And knowing that it will pay off on the course ! And I mean pay off ! Since my first round with ( my 1 Iron's) in this group of forty guys I play with every week end, I have been taking home skins and blocking alot of good golfers from getting their's. Our bets are tiny but one would think we were on TV some times !!! MY confidence is growing so fast . I have to stay calm as not to rush my shot from excietment about my knew knowledge ! And you need to understand That this little book you get with these clubs is great !! I even told David that I took two of his loose pages and had them laminated and take to the range ! I am going to take my favorite pages that I have hilighted and have them done too , so I don't mess up my book ! I have ordered the Driver and 3 wood ...its coming in tommorrow !! If you have the energy and an open mind ( & some cordination ) you can't go wrong ! You will hit some bad shots but if you stay calm ( open Minded ) Start over with slow half shots or 3/4 shots it comes right back to ya ! I read my book sometimes if need be ... but today on the range I got frustrated on only 3 or 4 shots ! Out of two Buckets . I will soon start to concentrate more on my aiming rather than my swing ! Hope my opinion helps ! Tyler G.


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[> Re: lowering scores -- Tyler Guthrie, 21:26:09 03/23/09 Mon

WITHOUT A DOUBT !!!! 106 ... 98 ... 94...98... ( 1 IRONS ) 89...87...84... and you ain't seen nothing yet ! when I do those few suggestions from David's booklet they are out there and in the fairway ! Once I get good at the sand ( in the sand )wedge ,I will be dangerous !


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[> Re: lowering scores -- Pat, 09:44:55 03/24/09 Tue

From a 25 handicap to a 9.4 index in under 4 years and a short playing season.


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[> Re: lowering scores -- ed norman, 11:59:31 03/24/09 Tue

I attribute 1Iron clubs to reducing my handicap by at least 6 strokes. I have put in a lot of effort in my short game, putting, etc. too. I have a friend that has dropped a solid 10 strokes off his game after 2 seasons using 1 iron clubs. I used to be an insured club builder, I sold my stuff after spending 3 years trying to build clubs as good as 1iron clubs. I dont feel right building clubs (the traditional style) when people could get so much better using 1iron clubs. I have been golfing for 8 years, and occasionally I get to where I can shoot consistently in the mid to high 70's which is way under my handicap. I just have to learn to do that all the time now.


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[> Re: lowering scores -- Carl Higgins, 15:52:16 03/24/09 Tue

No doubt about it. I went from shooting in the low 90's and upper 80's for the past ten years to shooting in the low 80's and upper 70's with my 1 Irons.

Carl


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[> Re: lowering scores -- Jimmy, 21:46:06 03/26/09 Thu

Got my 1Irons in '05 and have gone from a 25 to a 12.2. Believe and be saved.


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[> Re: lowering scores -- m (hi), 20:45:54 04/11/09 Sat

YES YES YES 10 down to 2


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[> Re: lowering scores -- Jeff, 20:29:44 05/01/09 Fri

No, not yet.
I've had them for almost a year, but still haven't broken 100.
I feel like my swing and short game has improved (putting still needs work), but they haven't yielded lower scores yet.
Maybe I'm just a slow learner.


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[> Re: lowering scores -- Lyman (I took the plung), 06:23:57 07/25/09 Sat

I bought the demo set 3-lw and got them 2days ago. Went to the driving range the next day. Must say I am empressed. I was able to hit the 150 yrd. flag twice. I know what David says about going to the range a couple of times before you play a round of golf. I can't help myself, I have got to get these out on the golf course. Here is a note about the 3 and 4 irons. (My old set-No way could I hit the 3 iron. The 4 iron-the only way I could hit it was to chock way down on the grip.) The 3&4 1 irons just work. My very last ball at the range using the 3 iron I was able to fly the ball over the 150 yard flag at about 200 yrs. plus. What a difference. :)


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[> Re: lowering scores -- Jimmy, 12:44:49 07/25/09 Sat

Yes. I've had the 1Irons for 4 years now and between the clubs, including irons and driver, and Graves single axis swing training, I've gone from approximately a 25 handicap to an 11.2. I can say for certain through extensive experimentation and analysis that I've experienced NO loss of distance with any clubs and my accuracy has gone up tremendously. I hit 59% of fairways now and 33% of greens. The greens figure sounds low, but before 1Irons I hit virtually no greens in regulation. I'd say I've increased fairway accuracy by 40% and green accuracy by 30%. I've heard some say that the steel shafts hurt their elbows, but I've not experienced that. I play once a week and practice some every day. I can't think of any reason not to at least try them. Good luck.


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[> Re: lowering scores -- Aaron (top 2), 19:31:14 09/22/09 Tue

Short answer not really. Had clubs close to six months. I like the 3 iron the best. I didn't have a 3 or 4 iron. I used 22 hybrid. That club I could swing, got about 4 iron distance. 3 iron gains me 10 yards if hit correct , there is no magic to make one do this ! Most of time I'm under 200 yards. My problem is off the Tee box. Goes like this. Saying these are correct feeling swings. Driver goes , but wait it only went 210. Mad about that. So I use 3 iron and get that 200, 205. So guess what I got over 200 yards left. So I got chip or short shot close to make par. I'm left handed so I'm out of getting the woods. If they worked like 3iron then I would get better. Unless swing oh they don't go anywhere either. I bought 1 16 degree iron inch short grip down inch and it beats the 3iron 10 to 20 yards. But no magic so I mess up to much. If I was having to keep score I would just use irons and hope I was putting really good.


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[> Re: lowering scores -- Michael (Michael Reynolds), 11:15:19 09/24/09 Thu

I have had my 1 Iron clubs for two weeks. Today I shot 2 over par for 18 holes. I hit 3 iron many times off the tee on the longer holes. I only hit driver twice today.

My previous best score on the course I played today was a 7 over par. I feel pretty confident that these clubs are making a difference, because I have only had them for two weeks.

There are two things I appreciate about my new irons. First, I am very confident with the long irons. This has never been true of my game previously. Second, the short irons fly really high. This means balls are sticking on the greens where previously they would have rolled off the back of the green. This means I am having a lot more chances at birdie (I converted three today).

I would not consider myself a "good" golfer yet, but I can see where getting clubs that fit sure makes a difference. I am having a lot of fun with these clubs. Now I just need to save up a little money for a driver, 3 wood, and some wedges.

Michael


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[> Re: lowering scores -- Oliver, 08:24:54 09/25/09 Fri

I find these clubs amazing. I have lost distance, about 1 club through the back. But the improvement in consistency is amazing. It was "hard" to force oneself to hit a 7 when I used to hit an 8. However, the outcome is better almost 100% of the time. And I now really look forward to the long par 3s (I still hit the 3 200yards, which is sufficient for pretty much any long par 3 on most courses), as I always will het the green and most other people in my group do not. As many people have mentioned, the playablity tips are the key. You need to be VERY stable, a slight amount of swaying and everything goes to hell. For some reason with normal clubs swaying works "better", but the 1iron swing also is tighter for me and so much better on my back that I have a hard time believing it. I am shooting in the high 70s/low 80s again and I can play the next day without pain, something I didn't use to be able to do for the last couple of years.
However, I also tried the driver and this club didn't work for me at all - I hit my old one straighter and about 30-40 yards longer - a 12 degree driver is too much for most mid to low handicappers, but I can see how it would help a high handicapper.

Best Clubs I have ever bought!


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[> [> Re: lowering scores -- Ron, 11:08:00 09/26/09 Sat

The following is a post made by David Lake a couple of months ago and I found it to be very true. The fact is that you may think you've lost distance or gained distance with a particular iron when in reality you're hitting it the same distance as another iron with the same loft angle - the number on the bottom of the club means nothing.

Here's David's Post:

"There is no standardization in the golf industry as to loft angles. This means that one manufacturer's #7 iron might be the equivalent of another manufacturer's #6 or #5 iron. Many golf club manufacturers will make their irons with "strong" loft angles in order to give the illusion that their golf clubs produce increased distance. You have heard golfers say it a thousand times: "I can hit this #8 iron a lot farther then my old #8 iron". The fact is that they can't. What they can do is hit an 8 iron with a 35º loft angle farther than an 8 iron with a 39º loft angle. When we speak of distance increases using 1 Iron Golf clubs we are referring to the increases you will get as a result of consistent solid ball contact coupled with the dynamics of clubhead design and shaft optimization. Typically, our customers will hit our 39º loft angle iron farther than their old 39º loft angle iron for exactly these reasons. You cannot compare one manufacturer's numbered iron with that of another manufacturer; you have to compare loft angles. It just comes down to a comparison of apples to apples."


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