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Irish Dance Message Board - Southern Region
Welcome to the Irish Dance Message Board for the Southern Region. This board will be moderated to maintain a friendly, fun and supportive forum - in true Southern Region style! If you read any message that you deem inappropriate please email me @ srmessageboard@yahoo.com and I will remove it at your request.....Thanks...Have fun and enjoy!
  • Preparations for SRO are going disastrously -- someone in the know, 21:03:08 11/21/22 Mon
    Everything that could go wrong has gone wrong: STILL in dispute over terms with the host venue, trouble securing visas for overseas musicians and adjudicators, vendors not knowing when, or even if, they'll be able to set up, program in disarray, awards not even ordered. It is an absolute nightmare this year. Committee members up at all hours and many in tears. I hope it all turns around for them soon. They need to set their pride aside and bring in some volunteers who can help sort everything out.

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  • Judging panels For SRO? -- Curious, 14:06:25 11/25/22 Fri
    I’ve heard that judging is going to be a 5 judge panel with highest and lowest scores dropped like Worlds. Anybody know?!

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  • Good info in the CLRGSCANDAL reddit -- Pass it along, 11:17:45 11/23/22 Wed
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  • Southern Region TC and-or AD -- Any involved?, 14:25:08 11/21/22 Mon
    Are any of our fine upstanding Southern Region TC/AD named in the scandal?

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  • Room at host hotel..what was the group code? -- TIA, 11:50:28 11/22/22 Tue
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  • Connachts Results - Were these fair? What are peoples thoughts? -- DM, 02:47:37 11/20/22 Sun
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  • Do you have medal rounds at the Southern Region Oireachtas? -- ?, 09:16:52 11/19/22 Sat
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  • What are “future champs”? Seeing awards for these at feises. -- Curious, 06:18:22 11/14/22 Mon
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  • Our daughter's teacher said the Oireachtas happening is not a certainty. -- concerned mom, 22:46:14 10/11/22 Tue
    She met with the parents after class to discuss the cheating scandal. She didn't say outright that the Oireachtas was cancelled but that it was up in the air at this point. The recent statement from our region suggested that they're still planning on it but are they just buying time. Does anyone know if CLRG is considering a cancellation of all Oireachtases and the 2023 worlds? I sometimes wonder how they can possibly move forward with competitions when we haven't fully uncovered the extent of the cheating. Our daughter is excited about the Oireachtas and we will go if it's being held, but that's mainly because it's a vacation destination with promises of Disney and Universal.

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  • https://www.irishcentral.com/news/irish-dance-adjudicators-step-down -- More judges, 04:53:39 11/13/22 Sun
    asked to step down

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  • How to improve Flexibility -- -, 15:17:10 11/12/22 Sat
    My DDs TC said she needs to improve her flexibility. -- Please, She has good flexibility, but dancers in her competition have amazing flexibility. Any advice for her to help her improve her flexibility? What has worked for your dancers?

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  • Oh Jesus! Orlando about to get hit hard by hurricane! -- Pray to all the saints, 09:43:03 11/07/22 Mon
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  • Southern Region letter -- TC/AD, 08:37:15 10/16/22 Sun
    Dear Colleagues,
    The Southern Region is employing rotating panels of five adjudicators for SRO 2022. The highest and lowest scores will be dropped.
    There have been changes in the original list of adjudicators since the syllabus was first released. An updated 2022 syllabus is attached, and our current roster of adjudicators is available here:
    Aileen Cronin (USA)
    Aisling Toal Casey (USA)
    Attracta Quinn (USA)
    Bernadette Trainor (England)
    Brendan Brady (USA)
    Brendan O’Brien (Ireland)
    Bridget Flynn (USA)
    Carol Pirsztuk (USA)
    Debbie MacVoy (Canada)
    Deirdre Penk O’Donnell (Canada)
    Donna Crouch (England)
    Frances McGahan (England)
    Gerard Carson (Ireland)
    Heather McClanahan (USA)
    Helen O’Dwyer (USA)
    Isabella Fogarty (Ireland)
    James Mueller (USA)
    Jill Etoll (USA)
    JJ Hester (USA)
    Justine Ward Mallinson (England)
    Kate O’Connor (USA)
    Marie Connell (England)
    Mary Kay Heneghan (USA)
    Megan Hickey (USA
    Nora McHugh (USA)
    Patricia Kennelly (USA)
    Sharon O’Brien (Ireland
    The Adjudication Panel will be sequestered away from the venue hotel and will have no access to social media or electronic communications during the Championships. All competitions will be monitored via remote video by Coiste Faire and results will be reviewed on an ongoing basis. Please reach out if you have any questions or concerns regarding the above. Sincerely, Bill Maple, ADCRG, Regional Director

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  • Do U15+ have to wear tights at the Teelin feis? -- ???, 09:34:22 11/02/22 Wed
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  • What specific, practical steps are being taken to ensure fairness at SRO? -- We're waiting, 10:02:20 10/19/22 Wed
    So far we've only seen a statement bemoaning the leaks and how hurtful it must have been to those poor adjudicators and their schools and families. They also mentioned in the same statement that they are "will work with CLRG and within our own region to find solutions" and have "taken steps." Our teacher says they have not been contacted for their input. Who within the region are they working with?

    Does anyone have specifics beyond this flaccid response? I see a couple judges have been swapped out but what about sequestering, social media monitoring, and surveillance? Maybe reconsider publishing a list of competitors with their competitor number and school name? Maybe get all 25 adjudicators on stage and do a public raffle for stage assignments each morning? Maybe have adjudicators turn in their phones and laptops Thursday evening and get them back Monday morning? Maybe forbid adjudicators to carry around purses or anything else. Maybe escort adjudicators to and from the restrooms, break rooms, and hotel rooms? Maybe have private security escort the tabulations runner from the ballroom back to the tabulations room and have private security monitor all tabulations?

    Is there really NOTHING specific they can say they are doing? I just listed a half dozen practical easy things. Come on Bill Maple, stand up for your region for once and do the right thing.

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  • Ronan McC letter on main board -- Explains a lot!, 08:36:15 10/31/22 Mon
    CLRG has never been interested in addressing corruption in the organization. If you were hoping for change from within prepare for disappointment.

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  • This is the judging panel for MARO. Are these judges fair? -- ?, 05:49:44 10/30/22 Sun
    https://static1.squarespace.com/static/561c25f0e4b0982b2a58f408/t/635cbd84da3cc7099bbcea59/1667022212079/Oireachtas+Judges.jpg

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  • Celtic Angels Christmas Casting - CMI Entertainment -- Celtic Angels Team, 10:34:08 10/26/22 Wed
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  • Why are the Regional Boards not supporting an investigation into the CLRG? -- Says Something!, 21:12:06 10/27/22 Thu
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  • Arkansas Double Feis Weekend November 12th and 13th -- Ozark Mountain Irish Arts, 06:54:05 10/27/22 Thu
    Join us in Fort Smith, Arkansas, for our double feis weekend on Nov. 12th & 13th! Registration is open at www.feisworx.com.
    We're offering three rounds on Saturday for PC and Open dancers to prepare for the SRO. We are also offering teams and 2nd chance novice and prizewinner on Saturday. The Sunday competition is a blackout feis and we are offering 2nd chance PC (PC will just be two rounds on Sunday). The deadline to register without a late fee is tomorrow, October 28th.

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  • Text of Complaint to clrg -- Link inside wetransfer, 14:53:22 10/03/22 Mon
    https://we.tl/t-usgrwykuUj

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  • To O or not to O -- Dance Mom, 13:42:46 10/22/22 Sat
    1st O for dancer. Trad Set. Dancer not feeling confident and “not sure” about competing. Thoughts on whether it’s worth it for the experience? We were going to make it a mini trip to see family too but I don’t want to put pressure on my dancer for that. Thoughtful replies appreciated in advance.

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  • Tanning for SRO -- SrLady, 07:06:20 10/24/22 Mon
    Is there word on who will be doing tans at the SRO this year? I checked the group that did it last year and they don't exist anymore.

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  • Judges -- 5 panel?, 05:52:23 10/11/22 Tue
    Will we be having a panel of 5 and dropping the scores this year? I don't know why we didn't do it at nationals and now look what happened. I think SRO should have a 5 panel to limit even more cheating, and if you say no why?

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  • Raleigh Feis? -- Excited Mom, 15:30:09 10/21/22 Fri
    Does anyone know if the Raleigh Feis is happening in 2023? It was our favorite, but they haven’t had it since Covid.

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  • Connick Feis -- Vibe?, 16:51:32 10/16/22 Sun
    We were registered to go but skipped based off of the judging scandal. Wondering what the general vibe was? If you went are you glad? Worth it to continue doing feis in general? Dancer is debating retiring.

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  • Stand up for change!! Cancel your Oireachtas block room and book elsewhere! -- Hit them where it hurts, 08:13:44 10/17/22 Mon
    Of course no one is staying home from the Oireachtas so the best way to show them what you think is to cancel your Hilton Orlando block room and find a room somewhere else. The southern region response to this crisis has been weak, noncommittal, generic, and complacent. Why should we support an organization who clearly does not support us? Making them miss the block numbers and be forced to pay a huge penalty will be a wake-up call to a very sleepy organization who can't wait for things to just blow over.

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  • This message is a fraud. -- Southern Region Member, 16:46:38 10/16/22 Sun
    The message through the list of adjudicators was emailed to members of the Southern Region 10/15.
    Everything appearing Below Sharon O’Brien is fiction, composed by the poster.

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  • Will we have New judges for SRO? -- is there time?, 07:51:11 10/13/22 Thu
    With the accused judges now suspended during investigation and disciplinary hearings will we be getting new judges for SRO?

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  • Connick Feis -- Go or No-Go?, 11:16:32 10/10/22 Mon
    Who are the judges this weekend? Any of the accused?

    My sense is that Connick is one of the more trustworthy schools. Is this one worth our time?

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  • Join us on reddit where discussion is still anonymous and uncensored -- link inside, 15:21:53 10/12/22 Wed
    Not moderated by anyone associated to CLRG

    https://www.reddit.com/r/CLRGSCANDAL/

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  • Open Letter to Fellow CLRG Members -- XXXXX XXXXXXXXX ADCRG, 10:29:53 10/11/22 Tue
    Dear fellow registered members of An Coimisiún le Rincí Gaelacha,

    Albert Einstein once said “Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.”

    Unfortunately, from my own personal experience, I don’t believe that the senior members of An Coimisiún le Rincí Gaelacha (CLRG) can be trusted with the important matter of restoring the integrity of the organization and ensuring fairness in the future of competitive Irish Dance. For decades, I believe the M.O. of the organization has been to bury issues, protect transgressors and punish complainants, and it would seem this pattern has continued over the years, despite minor changes of personnel at the top.

    In my 22 years as a registered member of CLRG, I have experienced numerous instances of discrimination and harassment at the hands of senior members. I have experienced the repercussions of attempting to raise serious issues and demanding that these issues be dealt with in an appropriate and timely manner. It would seem that there is a culture of denial and indifference within the upper echelons of the organization and a history of protecting transgressors from within their ranks. From overlooking previous reports of cheating at feiseanna and fraudulent activity of financial officers, to selective enforcement of their rules, the organization has a questionable track record of brushing serious issues under the carpet.

    I was informed by a former President of CLRG of a situation that occurred at the 2002 World Championships in Glasgow. Allegedly, several committee members engaged the services of male prostitutes at the event hotel. Not only did the prostitutes steal jewelry and cash from said committee members, they also caused damage to the hotel. I was told that CLRG paid restitution to the hotel for the damage caused and that the organization was subsequently banned from the venue for future events.

    Over the years, these committee members have gone on to chair committees and hold senior officer positions within the organization. Once again, one of them retained the services of a male prostitute at the 2014 World Championships in London. Allegedly, on this occasion, there was again damage caused to the host hotel; however, I was told by another senior member of the organization that “at least when it happened in London, he paid the fine himself”.

    It is my understanding that many of the current senior members of CLRG are well aware of these transgressions, but have chosen to allow the perpetrator(s) to go unchecked and, shockingly, facilitate their ascension into some of the most senior positions within the organization.

    I am now calling for those members, who, in carrying out their responsibilities to the organization, have acted in a manner that would bring the organization into disrepute, to resign; not only from their officer positions/senior roles, but also from their positions as elected/co-opted members of CLRG. I am calling on all elected/co-opted members of CLRG aware of these transgressions (whether previously or just now) to ensure the removal of any offenders from their officer positions/senior roles should they not voluntarily resign and to ensure that they are sanctioned appropriately for any and all transgressions.

    While I welcome the initiation of an investigation into the fixing of feis results, I call on the organization to suspend all adjudicators implicated in the text message evidence - without prejudice - for the duration of the investigation and to also set aside the right to adjudicate of any other registered member subsequently identified with supporting evidence, during the investigation.

    When the investigation has concluded and a report been published, any registered member found not guilty should be publicly vindicated and have their adjudication rights fully restored; anyone found guilty must be expelled from the organization or face severe punitive measures. At this time, I believe the students of those registered members implicated should be allowed to continue competing; they should not be punished for the alleged transgressions of their teachers.

    My fellow registered members of CLRG, I believe we share a common love of Irish culture, specifically Irish Dance. While you may believe that you have no voice within the organization, there is an ancient proverb that states the fish rots from the head down; so now is the time to speak up and be heard. Call out what you believe to be unfair, call on your regional representatives to lobby the organization for change. While I hope the art form will survive this current crisis, silence is not an option if we wish to ensure the future of competitive Irish Dance under CLRG. Let us create a legacy of fairness and transparency for all at future feiseanna, both locally and internationally.

    Is mise le meas,

    XXXXX XXXXXXXXX ADCRG

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  • Guess the SRO will be interesting -- Unacceptable, 11:01:39 10/08/22 Sat
    We find this practice of not judging fairly to be unacceptable and will work with CLRG and within our own region to find solutions to improve the standards of competitive Irish Dance. Our focus continues to be on the welfare of our dancers and the teachers who support them. We strive to provide fair competitions and will continue to review the adjudication process and make any necessary adjustments before our upcoming Oireachtas. The Southern Region will NOT hire anyone found guilty once the investigation has concluded, however we need to allow due process to take place. We have taken steps to ensure that our Oireachtas will be judged fairly and honestly.

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  • You ought to be ashamed of yourselves -- No conscience, 14:26:11 10/09/22 Sun
    It’s sickening to see so many posts from teachers and dancers at this weekends major in Scotland acting like they are squeaky clean. Posing with dancers, continuing to play their games and seemingly disillusioned with the world that they are sucked into. So many of us have packed it all in. We are thankful that this horrible world has been exposed. Those that continue and see nothing wrong must have very sad or no life outside of this fake, corrupt activity.

    Be a part of the solution not the problem

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  • So can we all skip that special feis in the run up to SRO -- ??, 15:24:22 10/07/22 Fri
    You know the one. The one where we all know the results before we even go but we feel we have to go anyway to kiss the ring and beg an indulgence and to at least get comments from judges to prep for SRO.

    Can we all just skip that one this year?

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  • There must be SOME Southern Region schools not cheating -- Let’s support them, 11:54:14 10/09/22 Sun
    Th cheating is disgusting but there must be SOME legit schools with legit TC’s. I’d love to support them by attending their feis. Boycott the cheaters… support the ethical. Which are ethical?!?!

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  • DS letter -- Link, 06:42:32 10/09/22 Sun
    https://cdn.fbsbx.com/v/t59.2708-21/310488130_3316433631954313_2343907924323276791_n.pdf/Letter.pdf?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=0cab14&_nc_ohc=FIG-O96QwhMAX_Lqm8K&_nc_ht=cdn.fbsbx.com&oh=03_AVJnZun7dhjOO7Y0RFfVOVJkPs_DANnUMghi5SgoukvnMA&oe=63435207&dl=1

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  • Sex Abuse Settlement -- ., 06:06:18 10/09/22 Sun
    https://extra.ie/2022/10/09/news/irish-news/judge-linked-to-feis-fixing-was-subject-to-sex-abuse-settlement -

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  • SRO judges -- Newbiemom, 07:38:17 10/04/22 Tue
    This is our first Oireachtas. But someone said two of the “exposed” judges are listed to judge. Will this be allowed to happen? Can we get our money back if they still judge and we cancel because of this? Help this new mom out.

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  • Are any Southern Region T.C.R.Gs or A.D.C.R.Gs named in this scandal? -- I can't open the file, 04:41:41 10/07/22 Fri
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  • How can SRO allow any of these accused judges? -- Who is in charge, 16:26:13 10/06/22 Thu
    Will they stand up for truth and justice

    Or collude with the cheaters?

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  • Proven cheaters Ann Gibbons and Hilary Joyce-Owens judging SRO -- Replacements?, 07:41:35 10/04/22 Tue
    When will Bill Maple announce their replacements? Surely these vile women won't be allowed to judge a world qualifying event? And if they aren't banned, which TCs will be brave enough to confront the organizers and these women in person and create a scene?

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  • Laughable and Pathetic -- Me too, 19:58:56 10/06/22 Thu
    Many individuals have taken to Facebook saying how shocked they are at the recent scandal. Give me a break! You’re as bad yourself. You all know who you are. Trying to come across all innocent to your parents.

    I can sleep at night! Sure as hell know you can’t!

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  • SR Board Moderator: This is not to time to censor posts. -- Free speech needed, 08:06:01 10/04/22 Tue
    I know the moderator of this board likes keeping things clean and I respect that, but we need to be able to name names and share specific details of what's going on with this scandal. We MUST have a safe place to discuss these developments without fear of our posts being deleted. There is no need to post the names of minors - so let's be respectful and just name the TCs and ADs involved.

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  • New school? -- Smaid, 05:45:04 08/07/22 Sun
    Royal academy? Any info? Who is the teacher?

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  • Tip for new SRO parents: AVOID the host hotel entirely! -- Learned from experience, 15:24:38 08/09/22 Tue
    One of the biggest lies in Irish dance is that you must stay at the host hotel. The "convenience" is nonexistent except for the transportation to and from the venue. Your TC will take over your child from the beginning of the day and you will not have a chance to go to your room before the night is over. And you can forget about sleeping. The screaming and crying and yelling up and down the halls at all nights is shocking. And every public area of the hotel will be taken over by a school either having a pizza party or running a mini-workshop. Avoid, avoid, avoid and only travel to the venue when absolutely necessary.

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  • Ryan and O’Donnell hard shoes -- ?, 16:39:11 09/23/22 Fri
    Has anyone tried these for their dancers ? Mixed reviews online .

    Thanks

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  • Check the UK/World Voy. MASSIVE scandal being uncovered. -- Lots of nervous TCs!!, 09:00:49 09/28/22 Wed
    I hope many TCs are trembling in their knickers right now. For too long we've been subjected to dishonesty, trickery, and thievery in judging that it's time for things to be burned to the ground. No doubt LOTS in the SR should be implicated!

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