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Date Posted: Tue, February 24 2004, 7:10:10
Author: Peter van der Hoog
Subject: Re: More details, pls!
In reply to: Todd 's message, "Re: More details, pls!" on Mon, February 23 2004, 13:26:25

Rita's story misses controllable facts so there is nothing to refute.

The part I am reading now is about the Russians, how they reacted on Fischer, and how they tried to come up with an organized plan to beat Fischer. It�s interesting to read how uninformed the Russians were about the western world. They had no idea why Fischer stopped playing for a while. Even to get a list of the games Fischer played was difficult for them to get. To understand this you have to understand the Soviet society. Everything was secretive and everybody was very suspicious. To get a subscription on a western chess magazines was already very difficult. The authors come up with another example: When Chrutsjev went to the United States, he got an invitation to visit Camp David. He asked the Russian foreign affairs about Camp David but they could not help him. Only later he found out that the invitation was an honor and not a camp for foreigners. In his memoirs he writes how ashamed he felt about his ignorance.

It�s also interesting to read how uncontrollable Spasski was for the Soviet leaders. You know why Spasski did not want to play the 1972 match in Russia? He was afraid that other Russian players would help Fischer!

There is no indication of an organized press campaign against Fischer. One �dirty� article is mentioned. But Botwinnik (I have to look that up) is against the articles and from then on such articles are not published anymore. The western press published much more critical articles about Fischer and not entirely unjustified. Fischer has very serious character flaws.

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Replies:

Did you read this article? -- Todd, Tue, February 24 2004, 23:45:59
- Re: Did you read this article? -- Peter van der Hoog, Wed, February 25 2004, 7:51:20
  - Found one more thread about it in rgcm -- Todd, Tue, March 09 2004, 1:56:56
Some of the details seem to be controversial -- Katerina, Wed, February 25 2004, 3:56:27
- Re: Some of the details seem to be controversial -- Peter van der Hoog, Mon, March 01 2004, 15:33:33
  - Re: Some of the details seem to be controversial -- Katerina, Tue, March 02 2004, 5:01:23
    - Re: Some of the details seem to be controversial -- Peter van der Hoog, Sun, March 07 2004, 5:33:43
      - Still controversial -- Katerina, Sun, March 07 2004, 10:40:19
        Re: Still controversial -- Peter van der Hoog, Fri, March 12 2004, 19:23:49
        Re: Still controversial -- Katerina, Sat, March 13 2004, 0:34:03
        "It depends on the person who informed the authors". -- Todd, Mon, March 29 2004, 20:26:46
        So, the circle is closed. Those ppl can't be trust for one bit. -- Katerina, Tue, March 30 2004, 2:33:10