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Mark7
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Date Posted: 08:34:05 07/19/01 Thu
There is no morality without WHICH God, Jeff?
That is the key. Once you say that there is no morality for atheists or agnostics, like our fearless fundamentalist leader G. Bush Sr., why stop?
Is there any morality for Budists? Well, many people will simply tell you that this country was not build by Budists.
Of course, if they read enough history they might find that the railroads that made possible the colonization of this country were build by many Chinese Budists, but the hell with them.
If you let the Pandora box of "no morality without religion" out, you will find there is no morality without exactly your church's kind of religion.
Morality is nothing but a set of rules designed to prevent people from cutting each other's throats.
Except that we keep doing just that, with or without the name of God.
The Spanish conquistadors were Christian and killed in the name of Jesus.
The Israeli settlers are clensing Palestine of Palestinians in the name of God.
Most Germans in WW2 defined themselves as Christians, Catholics and Reformed, not as Atheists as you want us to believe.
Muslims call a Jihad to commit some of the most horrible attrocities of our times.
Sorry Jeff, but looking at history one may wonder about human morality, religious or not.
I think the question, when asked like it is on IS, is just looking for answers to justify one's bigotry against other groups of people.
Unlike for Moses, God didn't show Himself to me in a burning bush. Unlike Jakob, I didn't wrestle with Him.
Whenever I felt a presence of God, it was in a mist of very HUMAN emotions.
I am willing to bet that God decided to touch us through our emotions and not our intellect. If God wanted us to let us find Him with our intellect, there would be signs in the sky, burning bushes and sticks that change into snakes.
Most of us find God in joy, sorrow, fear or happiness.
The question: is there no morality without God is ment towards the emotions, not the intellect.
It means: I believe in something different than you, therefore I am justified in hurting you. I am justified in excluding you from my EMOTIONS, so it would be easy to kill, or subdue you.
When Bush says that this country was not build for atheists, he means: I want to be able not to feel my own guilt when I take money from fundamentalists to make laws hurting atheists. I want to feel that atheists are less human, therefore I am justified in hurting them.
I bet the Israeli soldiers have a similar way of excluding muslims from humanity. They need some psychological vent when shooting stone armed 12 year olds, unless they are trully monsters.
Maibe our mores do come from God. But they come in many shapes and colors, and they come to us well hidden in human emotions.
Don't stirr up these emotions the wrong way, because they will muddy your vision and you won't be able to see the difference between God's mores and your own follies.
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