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Subject: 蔡進步,不外如是..............................(經濟學之弊端)


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無我
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Date Posted: 10:02:45 06/01/03 Sun
In reply to: ． 's message, "大家唔好再ｏ係度鬧老師啦！！！" on 13:00:05 05/26/03 Mon
 人會變,月會圓,估唔到除我一向敬重公佬心雲,另一個我所佩服既蔡進步,亦變得如此重利不重義,我仲記得你係一個如何熱心幫助同學既學兄,估唔到估唔到....哈哈哈....君子喻於義,小人喻於利....
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Author:
7a6蔡進步
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Date Posted: 10:57:34 06/01/03 Sun
一次我同同學問何定工務員該不該減薪,佢話要,我地之後就話減左對你唔好wor~~
佢就答:"做學問的人應該忠於理性的推論"
姑勿論佢講得岩唔岩,佢對忠於學問的精神就好值得我學習,敬重了.
[> [> [> Subject: Re: 蔡進步,不外如是..............................(經濟學之弊端)


Author:
7a6蔡進步
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Date Posted: 10:58:35 06/01/03 Sun
我說的是
1.熱誠是其一令學生好的factor,而不是唯一,即係話如果你只係話比我知一個人有冇熱誠係沒有足夠資料話佢教得好唔好的
2.熱誠而不能轉化為學生之得益,對學生黎講佢都係冇得益,空有熱誠是沒有意思的

你把以上推論成
1.我說人不要有熱誠
2.我沒有熱誠
你慢慢想一下是否合理吧
[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: 蔡進步,不外如是..............................(經濟學之弊端)


Author:
7a6蔡進步
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Date Posted: 11:00:52 06/01/03 Sun
要認識一個人是否有熱誠,其中一個方法是透過參考客觀行為,我上面的言論竟表達了咁多?!
我""就算真的有熱誠"",或者""客觀行為好似好有熱誠"",都唔代表我要點樣點樣講有熱誠係幾重要啊,冇熱誠既人係幾衰啊,又
點樣寄生虫啊云云(事實上我非常討厭d因為有熱誠而自命清高的人,不過你又唔好因為呢句就推論我沒有熱誠),因為我認為自己的選擇,不一定要加之於其他人身上,
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Author:
7a6蔡進步
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Date Posted: 11:02:19 06/01/03 Sun
我心目中的松鼠sir是沒有熱誠的人,但是我在學生會做野時,佢的確是一個實際,有辦事能力,教識我唔小野既人,最後結論係佢係有貢獻的老師

p.s.這不是什麼經濟學,任何研究因果的事,都要識hold other factor constant先可以睇到一件事的影響和必然性
[> [> Subject: Re: 蔡進步,不外如是..............................(經濟學之弊端)


Author:
小人物
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Date Posted: 02:29:55 06/02/03 Mon
>人會變,月會圓,估唔到除我一向敬重公佬心雲,另一個我所佩服
>既蔡進步,亦變得如此重利不重義,我仲記得你係一個如何熱心?>飢U同學既學兄,估唔到估唔到....哈哈哈....君子喻於義,小人
>喻於利....
請容許小弟加把口....
其實呢,我地首先要知道,老師既最大任務係教授知識予學生,所以如蔡師兄所講-->出黎既效果先係最重要既....而我之前亦提過一點:熱誠係效率既推動力,如果一個老師連教學熱誠都無,我想問下何來效率可言????而當一個老師空有一番熱誠而係教學成效方面建樹不大,那麼.....他那熱誠對於學生有何大益處呢??
[> [> Subject: Re: 蔡進步,不外如是..............................(經濟學之弊端)


Author:
舊生
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Date Posted: 10:48:57 06/02/03 Mon
贊同
正如董生空有熱誠治港，但卻無效率可言，於本港市民有何益處呢？
[> [> Subject: Re: 蔡進步,不外如是..............................(經濟學之弊端)


Author:
黃藥師
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Date Posted: 20:52:00 06/02/03 Mon
>人會變,月會圓,估唔到除我一向敬重公佬心雲,另一個我所佩服
>既蔡進步,亦變得如此重利不重義,我仲記得你係一個如何熱心?>飢U同學既學兄,估唔到估唔到....哈哈哈....君子喻於義,小人
>喻於利....

君子憂道不憂貧.我覺得"進步"同學所求的是學問,他是在求道.試問,你所講的他喻於的"利"是否等於他所求的"學問"呢?如果是的話,請你告訴我他究竟是君子,還是小人?

請你弄清楚什麼是"利",孔子說:"不恥下問", 那麼, 他是否為了追求學問(利)而放下自己身份去求問呢? 孔子也喻於"利"麼?

試想想,一個沒法令學生學到知識的老師,對學生毫無益處,他們為了薪金而繼續留下,這才是喻於利!
義是有公平正直的心,請問你是否公平呢?斷章取義地說你所佩服既蔡進步是不外如是,你也違反了義的本質.
所以....不外如是的...... 可能是你

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