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Date Posted: 14:59:51 03/14/01 Wed
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walk on
's message, "Re: importance of the 9:00 3km high school runner" on 13:58:51 03/14/01 Wed
I said CAPABLE of finishing top 6o. I believe you forgot to include Mccomb AND Mazzotta to the list( i could be wrong). And these 2 runner have not broken 14 or 30.
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Every Canadian school does not have a kid that can
>finish in the top 60 in the D1 meet. This is a
>statement that might make us feel better about
>ourselves but it is not true. This year only, Murry
>Link, Steve Bohan, Ryan Hayden and maybe Marc
>Striowski actually got this done. There best times on
>the track last year were: Link 13.50
> Bohan 29.04
> Hayden 3.42
> Marc 29.54
>There is not even 15 athletes in All of Canada that
>hit these times last year.
>
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>>It is obvious that some coaches do a much better job
>>of recruiting. But with out scholarships to offer it
>>is difficult to recruit out of province.
>>
>>I really don't believe coaches are all that different
>>in motivating their athletes to reach their potential.
>> Virtually every canadian university has a distance
>>runner that is capable of place top 60 at d1 xc cc.
>>And most of these guys were only 8:50 types in hs.
>>
>>
>>Why would an athlete compete under a coach that did
>>not meet their needs??? As a result many athletes
>>have the option of choosing which coach best meets
>>their needs(as far as i know many universities allow
>>atheletes to continue training under their club
>coach).
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>>>>Give me a break. A coach can only go as far as
>>>>providing a program for their athletes. The rest is
>>>>up to the runner. It is ridiculous comparing the
>>ciau
>>>>and ncaa. For the most part the mentality of a
>10:00
>>>>2 miler competing for a canadian as opposed to an
>>>>american team are very different. For example at
>the
>>>>ci level this athlete would be a counter in xc. At
>>>>ncaa this athlete would not even race, and would
>>>>ultimately be under great preassure to improve. I
>>>>also suspect a 10:00 2 miler at the ncaa level would
>>>>have a greater desire to comitt himself to
>improving,
>>>>as opposed to a ciau runner who is an average runner
>>>>on the team(far less preasasure). my 2 cents.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>A coach can only go as far as providing a program
>for
>>>his athlete? I believe there is alot more to being a
>>>(good)coach than just writing a program and expecting
>>>the athlete to improve. The coach has to show
>interest
>>>in his athlete, talk to him privatly about goals, how
>>>the body is adapting to the training and make
>>>appropriate adjustments. The coach has the ability to
>>>inspire his athletes to reach for bigger and better
>>>things to want to improve and not to be satisfied as
>a
>>>15:00 minute 5k runner.
>>> I ask why is it that the coaches at home who are
>>>completly involved with their athletes and have taken
>>>the approch that their kids can do what ever their
>>>peers are doing in the US, are the coaches with teh
>>>most sucess right now? These coaches have their
>>>athletes beleiving they can run competitive times,
>>>believing that it is not fine just to be average.
>>>The coach has to take some of accountabilty for what
>>>his athletes are achieving or not achieving.
>>> A 9 minute kid at home who has a coach who is truly
>>>commited to developing his athlete has many of the
>>>same advantages a 10 minute 2 miler from the US has,
>>>there is a drastic improvement curve for such a
>runner
>>>in the proper enviornment be it Canada or the US.
>>>Unless you think the american kid is more talented
>>>than the canadian kid and I definalty don't think so.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>you are completly right! 9 minute 3k kids might not
>>>>>seem like anything special when compared to the
>8:30
>>>>>kids but they sure can develop into something.
>>>>>Cutting these kids instead of working their asses
>>off
>>>>>is definalty the wrong approach. I've seen these
>>kids
>>>>>do some impressive things. Here at WVU we've had a
>>>lot
>>>>>of walk on kids at around the 10 minute 2 mile
>(over
>>>>>9:00 3000m) out of high school, who our coach has
>>>>>worked hard with every day. These kids worke just
>>as
>>>>>hard as everyone else and the results they have
>>>>>produced are very important to our team. We have a
>>>kid
>>>>>who ran over 10 minutes in high school, he came
>here
>>>>>his freshmen year worked hard and two years later
>>ran
>>>>>14:40's another kid ran 8:29 3000m his freshmen
>>>indoor
>>>>>year and only ran 9:50's 2 mile in high school.
>>>>>The 9 minute kids at home can do this and should be
>>>>>doing this, if the coach is paying as much
>>attention
>>>>>to them as he is his faster kids. It's all about
>>>>>progression in this sport and some kids take a
>>little
>>>>>longer to catch up.
>>>>>Think what a 6th or 7th man at 14:40's for 5000m
>>>could
>>>>>do at the CAIU level
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