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Date Posted: 18:11:53 08/14/03 Thu
Author: Lori (sending cool thoughts your way!)
Subject: Blackouts!

I know those of you that are involved in the huge blackout that's going on in Ontario, NY, and several other states in the northeast probably won't be able to respond to this but I just wanted to let everyone know I'm thinking of them and I hope things are resolved quickly and nobody you know (well nobody period) gets hurt by any of this. What a scary thing for that many people to lose power all at once. Especially on a terribly hot sticky day. For those of you that don't know what's going on, there was a major problem in one of Manhattan's power plants and it caused a chain reaction throughout many of the power grids in the northeast and Canada (Ontario). Most everything is run on computers and when one goes down, many others connected to those grids can go down too. As of 5:00 p.m. central time, they said that they were slowly but surely starting to get the power back and it would take several hours. They continue to say that this is NOT terrorist related so that's good. Our thot's and prayers are with all of you involved and I hope this is over very soon!

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[> O just hear about this on the morning news! It's 8 am here in middle Europe and they say parts of NYC are still without power, but the subways so far evacuated! Oh, what a scare to be in a dark tunnel under the earth with no power!!! Or in a skyscapers lift? Keira, Ron, I hope you're okay!!!! -- Antje, 02:09:59 08/15/03 Fri


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[> [> I just heard a German reporter speaking live from New York and he was asked how he had experienced this power outage and he said, it wasn't that bad, just no AC and 86°C, but he must be used to that if he's Germany ;-) He also says he admires the calmness of the New Yorkers, he said after they heard this isn't a Terror related event they became very cool and relaxed and even joke about it! -- Antje, 02:32:54 08/15/03 Fri


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[> [> [> that would be 86° FARENHEIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *G* -- Antje, 05:43:07 08/15/03 Fri


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[> [> [> It's funny that with the heat wave in Europe, their main coverage of this massive event is about airconditioning. hahaha It's about the fact that energy from Canada to NY went out in only 3 seconds. Of all the news reporting I heard and watched last night on all the channels, no one mentioned airconditioning. They talked about all these thousands of people out in the streets, they wondered if there would be looting, they wondered what people would do for food. They talked about how people were directing traffic because the traffic lights were out, how strangers were helping each other, how the subways were all safely evacuated and people stuck in elevators were all rescued. There was an incredible lack of panic and an obvious air of adventure. Hearing you talk of the German news reports of no airconditioning was the first I had heard of that angle of the story. *G* It must be the current european obssession with their heat wave. *wink* -- Lissa, 12:46:35 08/15/03 Fri


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[> [> [> [> Gee, of course our news coverage wasn't just concentrating on AC's Lissa! It's the same coverage like you had (as far as I could see on CNN and CNMBC. It's just when you sit there in your own sweat for weeks already and then you hear people complain about suddenly no AC and 86°F that just makes you smile! :-) -- Antje, 07:29:13 08/17/03 Sun


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[> [> [> [> [> I'm glad to hear that the reporting was well-rounded. I hope you could see that I was having fun with you about that subject. I apologize if anyone took my statements the wrong way, like I was attacking someone or something. Just laughing back at what you guys were laughing about to begin with. Anyways, no AC in NYC during that kind of heat is a serious thing since the city is mostly all concrete and holds the heat worse than around our houses with all the green. I hear that most of the heat deaths in France are in Paris, where I imagine the city conditions are like NYC. Like you have said, most people in your area don't need AC. It's the same for lots of people around here....they just stiff it out during heat waves. But places like NYC need to have AC to deal with their tight spaces and thousands of people, so it's a good thing that they got it back before serious health troubles started. Whatever... it's all past and all good. And all we're doing is talking *G* -- Lissa, 21:50:51 08/17/03 Sun


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[> My thoughts are with all those people too! Must be a real (bad) adventure to be without the one thing that runs all our lives. I picture all the frozen stuff in the houses going bad, and other complications, while having no air conditioning must be the least problem for them right now. -- Martina, 04:45:29 08/15/03 Fri


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[> I just read an article about it and couldnīt stop grinning. People complain about the heat without air conditioners, and it said mommies in hospitals are suffering. Interesting how people are getting used to everything. We donīt have cooled down hospitals here, and it is normal to deliver babies in the heat. We donīt suffer.*lol* That doesnīt make us any better or stronger of course, but I was thinking how funny that is, seeing our peoples reaction to this, they only shrug and canīt imagine whatīs so bad about the heat thing.*lol* It was said NY has 32°C, which is unbearable, while we have 36°C in our offices! And then look at all the soldiers in Iraq who suffer much worse. Different perceptions make for different opinions, I guess. -- Martina, 06:12:47 08/15/03 Fri


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[> [> Martina, get out?! You don't have AC in your hospitals? That's just so hard for me to imagine. lol Count me in as one of those cool-air spoiled Americans, I keep mine in the house set on 73F and that's where it stays. I don't care for heat at all, in fact I much prefer Fall and Winter to Spring and Summer. However, I do think of Doug whenever I'm out and the heat seems so uncomfortable, I know it's much worse for him there. I asked him when the summer ended there and he said sometime around next month he thought. -- Linda, 11:05:29 08/15/03 Fri


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[> [> [> In my delivery room was an AC and I delivered both babies in June. Also the intensive care and the operation rooms have AC. But no AC in the rooms where you lay, on the floors or in the offices etc. Just where it's really needed.. WHEN it's needed. This summer was exceptional hot, and do you believe that I freeze already with ony 77°F today? I think I'll gonna wear socks again! LOL, I bet Doug will freeze his nicely shaped... ummm backside off when he's back home in winter! I hope you intend to keep him warm! *winks* LOL -- Antje, 07:36:30 08/17/03 Sun


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[> [> [> [> Oh Antje, I can think of about a dozen ways I'd like to keep the hubby and those cute buns of his warm this winter! *BG!* I'm glad to hear at least some rooms in the hospital have AC, I was thinking about how the atmosphere around someone that's ill tends to have a certain odor and combine that with hot, sweaty flesh......you get the idea. lol -- Linda, 17:37:38 08/18/03 Mon


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[> [> [> [> [> yeah I do.. and actually I KNOW how those odors bother you first hand! As I said, the bedrooms on the usual floors aren't AC'd so if you're very lucky (NOT) you shre your room with a spanish or turkish Lady, who's family thinks they have to visist their poor sick (or just delivered) family member the WHOLE freaking day, bringing garlic-cooked food and chat and laugh all day, while you lay next to them trying to breastfeed your first baby the first time. I tell you, NO fun! I always pressed the nurse button and she sweeped them out of the room for an hour or two.. meanwhile they gather in tha hall! It's sometimes really bothersome, especially in summer with body odors or several perfumes and after shaves.. ewwwwww And the funny thing is they don't listen and do like they don't understand German if they are told to just GO HOME! lol -- Antje, 05:12:04 08/19/03 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> [> whoa! I just heard on the radio that in a BRANDnew hospital in Northern Germany where ALL rooms have AC's there has been many infections with the legionaeris infection!!! Maybe a little warm air from an opened window is much healthier and better than ACed air after all? The guy said that AC's always carry bacterias and fungis and stuff into the air.... Well, it all has it's advantages and cons! :-) -- Antje, 05:20:23 08/19/03 Tue


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[> *Sigh* we are indeed spoiled with the A/C. I can't deal with heat much over 80-85 - especially if it's humid too. Had heat stroke a couple times and since then it's been hard to be in. I guess it's what you're used to. I read that up to 3000 people have died from the heat in France this week and I know it's very very hot in Germany too. Not my cup of tea - I'm a weenie when it comes to really hot stuff. I'm a fall baby like you Linda! It could be October all year round and I'd love it. You have to admire the New Yorkers tho'. They just seem to take anything that comes along in stride. I guess they've seen it all. Gotta admire spirit like that. -- Lori, 12:02:06 08/15/03 Fri


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[> Hi guys, I'm back from our wee vacation in NJ at my brother's house. It is especially fascinating for me to be watching the news coverage of the NYC blackouts because exactly one week ago, I was in Times Square about to go to a Broadway show! I could have been there for the excitement. hehehe We were watching the news last night with arial views of all the people having to once again walk out of the city and all the cars lined up for miles. The big problem was not the loss of airconditioning, but rather the inability of the elevators and subway cars to work. The trains are the kind that have the poles on the top going to the electrical lines that run above the tracks, so when the electricity went out, all the trains stopped. That is why there were huge masses of people at the docks waiting for boats to take them out of Manhattan, which is an island, or why the bridges were covered with people walking across. -- Lissa, 12:35:06 08/15/03 Fri


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[> [> Most people live outside of Manhattan so the only way for them to get home is to cross a bridge, get thru a tunnel, or take a boat. As you can imagine, these were all choked with cars and people. The airconditioning was the least of their trouble, especially since all the stores closed and there was no food available. For most of these people, walking out of the city on a nice summer night sure beats running thru a cloud of dust, or walking down the stairs of your highrise building without wondering if it was going to fall on you, is a big improvement over the events of 2 years ago. That's why they are all happy and just dealing with it. Perspective is a wonderful thing, isn't it. -- Lissa, 12:36:21 08/15/03 Fri


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[> Here's an interesting statistic for you.... 50 Million people lost power in less that 10 seconds. Amazing. -- Lissa, 19:15:48 08/15/03 Fri


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[> Of course the lack of air conditioning is NOT the most important problem, hahaha. It just stroke me funny because in that one article I read it was such a big thing. Besides, we do have air conditioning in public buildings, some butchers, drugstores and such have it, but itīs not the rule, and itīs not in the bedrooms of the hospitals! Our health system is way too expensive anyway, so nobody would spend money on such a luxory thing. We donīt need it much either. This summer is a total exception with up to 40°C and more in some areas. Normally we donīt go over the 35°C mark (for only 4 weeks a year!), which, believe it or not, is easily bearable, because there is not much humidity. Itīs nice warm.*g* At night it cools down reasonably, just not this year! We had up to 28°C all night long! But it got cooler already. Last night we were sitting on a balcony wrapped into blankets, because the wind was chilly. The heat is over, whoohoo! -- Martina, 05:40:02 08/16/03 Sat


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