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• Happy Birthday Lissa. Wow, a Christmas birthday, very cool. (NT) -- Brenda, 15:49:02 12/24/03 Wed
• A very special Christmas birthday to you Lissa!! (NT) -- Lori, 15:58:12 12/24/03 Wed
• Hope your day is full of Fun and Merriment, Lissa. (((((Lissa))))), our very own Christmas Blessing!!! (NT) -- Betsy, 21:50:42 12/24/03 Wed
• Many happy returns to you, Lissa, on your very own special day. May your dreams come true in the year to follow!!! (((Lissa))))) (NT) -- Keira, 22:10:31 12/24/03 Wed
• Happy Birthday. Lissa! Have a wonderful day! (NT) -- Ron, 22:18:51 12/24/03 Wed
• HAPPY BIRTHDAY my dear friend! Wishing you a wonderful day and a year full of things you always dreamed of! (NT) -- Martina, 09:42:49 12/25/03 Thu
• Herzlichen Glückwunsch Lissa and merry christmas to all SWlers! :-) (NT) -- Antje, 13:09:44 12/25/03 Thu
• Happy Birthday dear Lissa (NT) -- Isabelle, 17:39:51 12/27/03 Sat

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• Thanks Martina. I will tag on to this with my best wishes for all my friends here at SW. Hoping you all enjoy your holiday and surround yourselves with the people and the things you love. (NT) -- Brenda, 14:21:34 12/23/03 Tue
• Yes! Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, Happy Winter Solstice and I hope everyone has a safe and magical holiday season!! (NT) -- Hugs from Minnesota (Lori)!, 15:57:05 12/24/03 Wed
• Martina, John Scott, Brenda, Lori, and everyone here at Spirit World, may I wish you all a very happy holiday season, no matter how or what holiday you celebrate. May you appreciate the really important things in this life, family, love, friends, laughter, and the joy of just being. If you are having worries and stress in your life, may the New Year bring you calm and hope. I do hope we spend more time together online. You are all in my thoughts!!!!! (NT) -- Keira (with hugs for all), 22:15:27 12/24/03 Wed
• Happy Holidays, everyone! (NT) -- Ron, 22:20:38 12/24/03 Wed

• I was wondering the same thing, JC. I hope she is past the worst of it and is recovering so she can enjoy her Christmas. (NT) -- Brenda, 10:41:46 12/22/03 Mon
• *waving maddly, one handed* Here I am, JC! Thanks for asking. And thanks Everyone for your thoughts/prayers/concerns. The surgery went well, although there was more damage than had shown up on the MRI. I am healing well. My left arm will be immobile (except for physical therapy) for 6-8 weeks. For the most part, the pain is bearable and I try not to take the pain med too often as it makes me pretty dopey...hahahahaha. (((((HUGS))))) to you all, and a VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS AND BRIGHT SOLSTICE TO EVERYONE. Now I need to go lie down... (NT) -- Betsy, 10:10:52 12/23/03 Tue
  • Great news, Betsy! Glad you're doing well. Now take a good rest as you heal! Maybe it's time to read again some old favourites. I've been doing that for the last month and enjoying them immensely. But, don't think you have to answer all our good wishes. Look after yourself! (Oh, and Merry Christmas, Betsy! ) {{{{{{{Betsy}}}}}}} (NT) -- Ron, 21:52:10 12/23/03 Tue

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• I have an artificial tree, Martina. There is a solution you can make that is supposed to keep the tree fresh longer. It has bleach in it and iron pyrite or something. I never made it because whenever we had a real tree, it fell over every year (despite valiant efforts by the DH to ensure it was stable) spilling water all over the carpet. I didn't want to add to the misery by having my carpet discoloured by bleach as well. (NT) -- Brenda, 23:45:19 12/03/03 Wed
  • hi! Don't know if anyone is reading down this far..I just popped by and..I always put sugar in the water for the tree..it's supposed to help keep the tree fresher longer. I have no idea if it helps or not, never wanted to experiment. The tree just sucks back that glucose water! ;) (NT) -- viive, 14:14:53 12/22/03 Mon

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• Betsy, it´s okay to ask! Energy and prayers are on the way to you! Hang in there, soon you will be as good as new.*g* HUGS!!! (NT) -- Martina, 03:08:26 12/16/03 Tue
• Betsy, we all are with you as you endure this situation again. You know it's for the best. I admire your positive attitude. So, here's a hug for you .... ((((((((BETSY))))))))) (NT) -- Ron, 06:16:36 12/16/03 Tue
• Hi Betsy! Be sure I'll keep you in my prayers and will send postive engery over the ocean! (NT) -- Antje, having the flu, just checking in shortly, 06:23:56 12/16/03 Tue
• {{{{{{{{{{{Oh Betsy}}}}}}}}}}}} I had you marked on the calendar to remind my thoughts to go your way. I'll just sit here in the am with a cuppa tea and think of you:) Update on Mingo, don't know if everyone knows. He started coming down with pnuemonia on Thursday and took him to the dr on Friday afternoon. Poor thing trying to cough on a tonsillectomy throat. But he was put on zithromax and had breathing treatments all weekend and doing much better. We've a dr appointment this afternoon and he should be able to go to school tomorrow. (NT) -- JeanClaire*(speedy recovery to you Betsy!), 07:09:50 12/16/03 Tue
  • You certainly have had a time of it with that wee lad of yours, Jeannie. I hope he is feeling better soon so your life can get back to normal. (NT) -- Brenda, 21:29:41 12/16/03 Tue
• I will be thinking of you Betsy. Wishing you a speedy recovery! (((Betsy))) (NT) -- Brenda, 21:27:25 12/16/03 Tue
• Good luck tomorrow Betsy! We'll all have you in our thot's and prayers!! I'm sorry to hear that your little guy is having a bad time of it too JC. I hope your Dr. appt. went well and he'll be on his way to a speedy recovery soon. Hang in there - sending special thot's his way (and for you and your family too!). (NT) -- Lori, 21:59:07 12/16/03 Tue
• Thanks, Everyone, for your support. I really appreciate the prayers/energy/hugs. ((((((((SW)))))))) And Jeannie!!! Poor Little Guy!!!! Give him a hug from me, and here's one for you, too:(((((((Jeannie))))))) (NT) -- Betsy, 22:42:47 12/16/03 Tue
  • Little Guy got an all clear from pediatrician yesterday. Thanks for all your hugs; just frustrating as a Mom to watch tonsil recovery troubled by chest infection. Let's all give Betsy good thoughts today for a speedy recovery. {{{{{{{{{{{{{Betsy}}}}}}}}}}}}} (NT) -- JC*--raising my cuppa to you!, 09:37:44 12/17/03 Wed

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• "A Christmas candle is a lovely thing; It makes no noise at all, but softly gives itself away while quite unselfish it grows small. - Eva K. Logue I don't know who she is but I thot' this one was quaint and it reminded me of this lovely little old lady that used to live in the neighborhood I grew up in. She'd bake cookies for us kids and tell us stories about when she used to live in Hollywood during the roaring 20's. She was quiet, friendly and her love for us kids shown as bright as any star. Her name was Maudie... (NT) -- Lori, 22:12:02 12/16/03 Tue

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• Lol, Keira...this time you beat ME. I was just going to post about this song too. It is awesome...I have already listened to it three times today. (NT) -- Brenda, 16:27:44 12/10/03 Wed
• I am SO glad you like Dar! -- Jamie's Mom, 22:45:56 12/10/03 Wed
  • Please check inside message above. There's more up there than meets the eye. (NT) -- JM, 22:46:59 12/10/03 Wed
• Wow, thanks for this info-I was really impressed with this song so I'd love to check out some of her other work. (NT) -- Keira, 23:09:09 12/10/03 Wed
• I'm at work and can't listen to the music...and I'm afraid it will have changed by the time I get home tomorrow. Too bad. Sounds like something I would really love. Hmmmm...Dar Williams...sounds familiar, but I don't know why. (NT) -- Betsy, 03:48:35 12/11/03 Thu
  • Betsy, when you are home you can go to the Day 10 website...http://www.brunetti-cab.com/christmas/christmas2003-day10.html And download the song from there. You shouldn't have a problem. Happy Listening (NT) -- JeanClaire*(Keira, I'm still trying to find coffee:)!), 12:48:04 12/11/03 Thu

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• Lori, I did think about this but, to be honest, I knew I wouldn't have any real free time until this weekend and I was thinking that it might be a bit late. So, I haven't done anything about it. Does everyone want to do it? Let me know your ideas this weekend. (NT) -- Keira, 15:41:29 12/06/03 Sat
• Hi Keira! I'd like to do it but if it's a lot of work for someone, it's not that big of deal. I don't know what it encompasses to get rolling or if others have time for it this year. Anyone else out there interested??? (NT) -- Lori (waving madly and sending hugs!), 01:32:53 12/07/03 Sun
• I'm thinking it's a bit late for right now as well. What about in February:)??? A mid-winter celebration or something? (NT) -- JeanClaire*, 14:14:49 12/07/03 Sun
  • I like this idea JC. Perhaps we could do something related to friendship and Valentine's Day? I would love to do something, I agree with Kiera though, I don't think there is enough time left before Christmas to get things shipped. (NT) -- Brenda, 18:06:31 12/07/03 Sun
• Wow-I love this idea!!!! There really isn't enough time to do an exchange for Christmas but I'm willing to arrange something for the Spring (any month is great). So.........here's the deal, please anyone who is interested in doing a small friendship exchange in the Spring-just e-mail me with your name and addy. To be truthful, I'd rather wait until after Christmas to get this organized. I just have sooo much to do before the holidays and if I can think about this afterwards, it would sure make my life easier. Thanks Brenda and JC for this wonderful idea!!!! (NT) -- Keira, 18:38:58 12/07/03 Sun
  • Hi Keira. I am repying here because your e-mail addy doesn't want to work for me (even with the spaces removed). Count me in on this "Gift of Friendship Exchange". It will be nice to have this to brighten such a dreary month as February. (NT) -- Brenda, 20:39:37 12/07/03 Sun
• That's a great idea! I like that better. I think sometime in February is cool, like Brenda suggested - for a friendship type thing around Valentines day! That works great for me... (NT) -- L., 18:50:56 12/07/03 Sun
• I didn't do any ss on any board, because of being really short on money this year. It costs a fortune to send packages overseas. You guys have fun please, but I can't play this time, sorry! (NT) -- Martina, 08:46:40 12/08/03 Mon
  • Martina, I think there are more than one of you in Germany, right???? LOL, of course you can join us-I'll hook you up with a friend in Germany and even if you make a plate of cookies or draw a picture or whatever-this is not supposed to be a stressful event. I'll be calling out again for names after Christmas so I hope to see your name there!!!!!! Brenda, your e-mail did reach me once the spaces were removed, *VBG*. (NT) -- Keira, 11:31:30 12/08/03 Mon
    • Thanks Keira, but as far as I know there is only my sister, Ellen and Andrea, right? For once I see them regularely and if we like we exchange gifts anyway, and second is that I think the others would find it more exciting to get hooked up with someone from overseas. I mean they know what German cookies taste like.*VBG* Just MHO. (NT) -- Martina, 05:12:42 12/09/03 Tue

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• I think you're breaking new ground, and no pieces of paper exist. Think of yourself as a scientist publishing a new discovery. Nothing existed before, so he or she has no paper qualifications on the topic. You could state what you have done yourself in a clear manner and let the students judge from that resume whether the subject is for them or not. Hope that helps. (NT) -- Ron, 08:36:08 12/07/03 Sun
• What Ron said! There is no degree or any official paper on this, so go ahead and invent something yourself!*g* Have fun teaching, I bet it will be great! (NT) -- Martina, 08:58:10 12/08/03 Mon
• Lori, I don't think that any piece of paper shows whether a person is gifted or not. It just shows that someone has the money to take a class. People know you are gifted....anyone who has any sensitivity can tell. The people who need what you have to give will find you, and won't care if you don't have that piece of paper as "proof" of your gift. Teach!!!! If that is what you feel called to do...TEACH!!!! (NT) -- Betsy, 16:50:33 12/08/03 Mon
• Thanks you guys. I guess I need to get some stones for myself for courage *wink*. I am planning on going ahead with the class. And from the point of view that everyone looks at energy healing from a different angle and not everything will work for everyone! I appreciate the support!!! (NT) -- L., 20:17:37 12/08/03 Mon

Do you do a real tree or fake tree? And why? :-)

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• It's a real tree in our house, but no real candles! :-) (NT) -- Antje, 07:29:19 12/04/03 Thu
• Mine is a real, fake tree. (VBG!) I have a fibre optic tree which has saved me from the awkward job of plugging in a string of outdoor lights while the temperature is 0 C. (32. F.) or less, using my fingers to take screws out of an overhead veranda light, and trying not to drop them. Putting up the lights was no trouble. My parents before me didn't have a real tree in the house since the 1950's. In this house, it takes up too much space, besides having the disadvantage of dropping needles all over while standing, or when being set up or taken down. (NT) -- Ron, 12:05:43 12/04/03 Thu
• We have an artificial tree. We used to always get a real tree, loved the smell and all that. However, no matter how hard he tried, DH could never get one to stand without falling over at least once in the middle of the night (it almost became a tradition unto itself...."Night honey, see you at 3 in the morning when the tree falls over again.") At one point we had a cat who would launch herself at it, deliberately trying to knock it over (did I mention she was a psycho cat from Hell?) So, about four years ago we bought a lovely artificial tree that stays vertical and I light a pine scented candle to get the smell....no needles to clean up after either. (NT) -- Brenda, 01:09:50 12/05/03 Fri
  • Always had the problem of the tree falling over! Finally just screwed an eye bolt into the wall and tied the tree to it so it couldn't fall. LOL A few years ago my parents passed on their jumbo tree stand and I also started buying smaller trees (used to get 7-8 foot trees) and don't have that problem any more. Should actually have an artificial due to allergy problems but just can't do it. (NT) -- colly, 11:14:31 12/05/03 Fri
• I spend a little more money to get a tree that doesn´t throw with needles.*g* They kinda shrink when it gets dry, but hang on. I love the natural scent of the tree. It looks nicer too, because in Germany we usually don´t put that much stuff on it, so that the actual tree isn´t visible any more.*VBG* (NT) -- Martina, 06:54:40 12/05/03 Fri
• It's been a while since I bought a real tree, but I understand that the Scotch Pine is the best for holding its needles. That's appropriate since most of us are Hosers also. (NT) -- Ron, 09:31:45 12/05/03 Fri
• Oh how weird. I had replied to two messages below and then posted a new one asking the same question and none of it showed up!! So in answer to my own and Antje's question (hehe) we had to get a fake one last year. Our two kitties and the dog would sit under the real one and do everything they could to drink the water out of the holder! Silly little things. Then they would get the pine sap all over their fur and everthing but the kitchen sink would stick to them hahahaha. I hate having an artificial one but we didn't know if the animals would get sick from the pine sap or not and the tree would just dry out so darn fast. Also our ornaments start up a little higher than most peoples tree because one of the kitties east everything in site. I think he's got brain damange or something ; ) (NT) -- Lori, 18:12:29 12/05/03 Fri
  • Oops - that's supposed to say most peoples trees because one of the kitties EATS everything in site....duh! (NT) -- L., 18:13:57 12/05/03 Fri

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• Cool about the tattoo, Keira. I think I eventually want to get one as well. A friend of mine is a graphic artist so I think I will get her to design it for me since I know the basic things I want, just not sure how to put it all together into one design. Good for you to go back to school! I played around with the idea of going back for my masters but I don't know if I am ready for that in my life yet, it is busy enough at the moment. I think if I could take any course I wanted, or degree program I wanted, I would do something in the health sciences. I love teaching, don't get me wrong, I just wish that politicians would keep their hands out of the classrooms and let us teach. I know it is not much (if any) better in the health care system, it is just that it is something I have always thought would be exciting. (NT) -- Brenda, 11:49:46 11/22/03 Sat
• Hi Keira, good to see you here! This definitely is a time to change things and start something new! May I ask what BScN is?? Sorry, but I''ve never heard that before. (NT) -- Ellen, 12:39:58 11/22/03 Sat
• Hi Keira, good to see you here! This definitely is a time to change things and start something new! May I ask what BScN is?? Sorry, but I''ve never heard that before. (NT) -- Ellen, 12:43:01 11/22/03 Sat
  • Oh, and BIG HUGE HUG right back at ya! (NT) -- Ellen, 12:53:27 11/22/03 Sat
• Cool! Welcome to the world of tattoos! I have 2 and have been working on a design for a faery (of course) with celtic wings but haven't quite gotten it right yet. I'll go check out your pic too! If I could take more classes, I guess it would be metallergy/jewelry making with gold. I've only worked with silver and I'd love to know how to cast pieces. So much equipment tho' and it's spendy stuff. I also want to take my reiki stuff (if I ever have the time and money) and I'd like to learn another language. Probably spanish as we have many mexican folks around here now and it's fairly easy to learn. I'd take classes all the time if I could afford them and had the time. I love to learn new stuff. Good for you! Hugs too... (NT) -- Lori, 15:07:21 11/22/03 Sat
• Just looked at the pic of your tattoo. OMG that is so awesome! I love it! Where is it (or should I ask *wink*). Really nice! (NT) -- L. again, 15:10:03 11/22/03 Sat
• JS has two tattoos and he always wants me to get one too. I am not so sure about it, I hate pain!*G* Yeah, I would like to know WHERE you have it too!*lol* (NT) -- Martina, 05:15:38 11/24/03 Mon
• To answer your question, I would like to take courses in alternative healing. I have the Reiki Master and would like to do more related to that. Oh and yes, what the heck is BScN??? *g* (NT) -- Martina, 05:19:15 11/24/03 Mon
  • LOL-jeez, it's great being back here, even if it is still sporatic. The tattoo is on my back, just below my neck collar line. It can be covered easily when I'm at work but shown off with a lower neck line. I'm really thrilled that I got it. BScN is a university degree, Bachelor of Science in Nursing. It is not necessary to have a degree to nurse, only a diploma, so a degree is the next step up. It's going to be a lot of work but it will be worth it in the end. Martina, I only have my second degree in Reiki, not a master level yet-but that will come when the time is right. (NT) -- Keira, 22:17:45 11/24/03 Mon
• Hi Keira!!! COngrats on the tattoo and good luck for the BScN! (NT) -- Antje, 09:18:14 11/26/03 Wed
• Keira i LOVE your tattoo I have beem thinking of getting a second one myself. Was this one you designed or did the tattoo artist have the idea? Speaking of you all with Reiki I could sure use some sent my way. Many isssues but latley bad low back and arms/hands going numb during sleep. Hope you all are good. Keira I don't know that I would want to go back to school hahaha. Much love. (NT) -- Reenie, 09:35:57 11/29/03 Sat
  • Reenie!!!!! Miss you!!!!!! The tattoo is one I found on the net. The actual design also has an outer bit of knots also but I thought I'd go for the simple first and have the more intricate knotting added later. Hmmm...hands and arms going numb at night? Sounds a bit like carpel tunnel syndrome. Have you had it checked out? It can be repaired very easily these days, usually under a local or just a conscious sedation if there are no complications. I'll be sending you some Reiki to help your back and arms. Hopefully the other issues will sort themselves out. Thinking of you!!!!!! (NT) -- Keira, 10:04:07 12/01/03 Mon
    • Also, if you can find a very gifted massage therapist, sometimes they can work wonders and you can avoid surgery!!!! Just my two cents worth... and hi Reenie...miss you, too. (NT) -- Betsy, 12:51:50 12/04/03 Thu

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• Great question Keira! Well our tradition was always to go to church on Christmas Eve to the 11:00 p.m. service (this was when I was much younger and had different beliefs than I do now). Then we would have a nice breakfast at my Mom & Dad's Christmas morning. My Dad would always go to this little bakery and buy this cool pastry, almond Christmas Tree all decorated with colorful icings. Then we would open our presents and just visit. Now that my folks are both gone, Vern and I go to his Dad's on Christmas Eve and then to his Mom's on Christmas Day. We go down to Iowa on the weekend closest to Christmas to my sisters (as the weather allows). One year the weather was so bad for weeks we had Christmas in a van in the parking lot at Perkins 1/2 way between Minneapolis & where my sister lives. Whatever works hahahahaha! (NT) -- Lori, 20:11:59 12/02/03 Tue
  • Bwahaha, that´s funny Lori! (NT) -- Martina, 04:45:29 12/03/03 Wed
  • in the van!!! LOL, did you at least have one of those smelly trees dangling from the inside mirror? LOL (NT) -- Antje, 06:45:30 12/04/03 Thu
• I have no family now, and neither does my friend, Gord. For the last several years we have started a tradition of having an operating session on my train layout interrupted by Christmas dinner and a video. We finish running the trains after the video, then I drive him back home. It's far better than sitting home in our separate houses and watching dumb movies alone. We don't exchange gifts. (NT) -- Ron, 01:08:05 12/03/03 Wed
• 30 people? Wow, my family doesn´t come up with that many members. When I was a kid my Dad insisted on putting up the tree on the 24th. We didn´t get to see it until it was dark, shining in all glory. He never changed that and I did it with my DD just like that, until she was older and I too much under stress that day, so that we now put up the tree a day before, or even earlier. Christmas Eve is when we exchange gifts here. The 25th and 26th are official holidays too, but the main event is on the 24th. I broke with most of the old family traditions, because they were only to keep the kids in suspense and now we are celebrating each year as we go along. It is nice to have a tradition, but our family has shrunk so much. Doing everything in peace an quiet is what we do now. On Christmas Eve we usually have a simple dinner (potato salad with wieners and such*g*), but the 25th and 26th are there to expand the waist line, haha. Our "turkey" is a goose or a duck.*g* (NT) -- Martina, 04:42:44 12/03/03 Wed
• We alternate every year between Doug's family and my family. This year I volunteered to cook dinner for Doug's side of the family...25 people roughly....must have been a weak moment on my part, lol. We have lots of traditions leading up to Christmas as well. DD and I always make gingerbread men together, I always bake too much because everyone has their favourites that they "can't live without" on Christmas. We always have turkey dinner on the 25th and present opening is the morning of the same day. This will be the first year I have had no kids believing in Santa. Sad in a way, but at least now I get credit for buying the good presents instead of Santa, lol. (NT) -- Brenda, 23:40:42 12/03/03 Wed
• What a lovely question Keira! I love that you all draw a name and get a gift for one! - As for traditions, well, as a child it was like Martina already said above, with my own little family now we've created some new :-) On the bigs day (24th which is Christmas Day here) we have our tree just 1 day, cause we have a "tree decorating celebration" at the 23th. Until then it was only "Advent", with a advents weath on the table but then it's christmas.The 24th is always sort of stressful for the moms, so I spare myself to cook something big, the kids don't eat much anyway, they are way too nerveous and later busy with their new stuff. On the 25th it has become a tradition (since 11 years now) that I do a duck with german dumplings and red kraut. On the 26th we drive to my dh's mom who invites that big bunch of his family-side (around 20 people) and cooks mostly something not-eatable, so we're mostly really happy when we're back home eating leftovers ...went too long.. >>>>>>>rest inside -- Antje, 07:06:13 12/04/03 Thu

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• Happy turkey day to everybody! It´s a normal weekend here, but I wish you all having a good time! (NT) -- Martina, 04:24:19 11/28/03 Fri

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• Welcome sharon! Please come inside>>> -- Martina, 04:16:38 11/28/03 Fri

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• You have my thoughts and prayers for a super successful surgery for Mingo and a speedy recovery. Hope your DH finds a way to calm his fears. (NT) -- Brenda, 15:57:07 11/26/03 Wed
• Tell the big guy the little guy will be fine. I had mine out ages ago when I was younger than Mingo, and I'm still here! Just don't tell the little guy some lie about visiting the hospital to see an uncle or grandpa like my parents did to me. They >>>> -- Ron, 08:03:37 11/27/03 Thu
  • Ron, if you were here with us Mingo would tell you, "I have to get my tonsils cutted out." I couldn't lie about something like that. I had mine out when I was seven. And I remember being told I could eat all the ice cream I wanted which was a bit of a lie because nobody wants to eat anything after an operation like that. Ron, this is done as a one day surgery now and no overnight in the hospital either. Thanks for prayers everyone. (NT) -- JC*, 08:48:55 11/27/03 Thu
• Will be thinking about your "little guy" and your "big guy". I'm sure everything will be just fine. I had mine out when I was 5 and back then they made you stay in the hospital for 3 days. But then that was a loooooong time ago hahahahaha. It's so routine now a days that it's no big deal at all. I remember being told I could have lots of ice cream too and even tho' it hurt I'm sure I gobbled it down anyway! Good luck to them both (NT) -- Lori, 11:33:00 11/27/03 Thu

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• Wow, you guys look great! You all look like you are having a great time too. Thanks for sharing your photos. (NT) -- Brenda, 22:55:53 11/25/03 Tue
• Cool pics! Are you sure it wasn´t a time jump?*G* Looks verra authentic! (NT) -- Martina, 03:45:09 11/26/03 Wed
• Lori!! Saw your pics yesterday when I couldn't get into these boards. You look mahvelous!! (NT) -- JeanClaire*, 07:10:27 11/26/03 Wed
• Hi Lori!!!! Great piccis!!!! Looks like you really had a good time! It must have been fun! Did you sell your jewlery? I know about the MN Ren Fair, cause I've got a pen-pal since years in MN :-) She once sent me one of these small finger-dolls, and called it a "handbag-Jamie" LOL she bought it there! :-) (NT) -- Antje, 07:56:16 11/26/03 Wed
• I was thinking about the term "arisaid". The way I have seen it used most often (through DD's dance stuff) is to represent a type of tartan. For example, the tartan of DD's kilt is called Red Fraser Arisaid. Most arisaid tartans have lots of white/cream in them to show up while dancing. However, the word can also represent an article of clothing. (NT) -- Brenda, 10:59:59 11/26/03 Wed
  • Thanks Brenda! I didn't have a clue what it means.*g* (NT) -- Martina, 11:27:42 11/26/03 Wed
• I didn't know that part about the actual word "arisaid" either Brenda. Thanks for the info! The way I'm wearing it in the pics is the "old way". I did alot of research on how Scottish women wore their clothes before I made the costumes and back then it was wrapped around as a second skirt, belted and then thrown over their shoulder and pinned with a brooch. Kind of a women's version of the men's great kilt only on a much smaller scale. I really enjoy watching the celtic dancers with their colorful plaids. It's fitting that your DD has the "Red Frasier" plaid for her costume (that is if you've read DG's books) *wink* (NT) -- Lori, 11:27:16 11/27/03 Thu

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• Hi there! Holy cow I can't believe your little one is almost walking already. Where does the time go? It seems like she was just born a few months ago. She is so cute. I haven't been on the lightworker site for a while. I'll go see what new stuff they have on it. Good to hear from you and an e-mail is on it's way too! (NT) -- Lori, 15:12:30 11/22/03 Sat
• Ellens baby is the sweetest thing I ever saw! She has a marzipan skin I would kiss all the time. I bet you do, Ellen!*g* (NT) -- Martina, 05:22:30 11/24/03 Mon
• The Lightworkers site is a gem , Ellen. They give workshops all over the world and are soooo enlightened. Thanks for posting the link. And give that beautiful baby a hug from me. (NT) -- Betsy, 17:25:12 11/24/03 Mon

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• Can't help with an actual book but do have a book site that may help. Try http://www.bestbookdeal.com/index.html .They search through many booksellers. You said you tried amazon, did you try amazon.uk. Worth a look. Good luck with your search. (NT) -- JeanClaire*, 09:17:50 11/21/03 Fri
• Haven't read these before. What are they about? The title sounds interesting. Hope you're able to find them. Nothing new today here except we're supposed to get a blizzard with heavy snow on Sunday. Oh yay! Here it comes. Maybe if I put the snowblower on the front lawn showing we're prepared and Mother Nature sees it maybe Murphy's Law will kick in and the snow won't come...haha (NT) -- Lori, 11:01:03 11/21/03 Fri
  • Hey! I like the snowblower/murphy's law thing!! Maybe I'll get out our shovle, give it to my DH and have him stand outside!! hehehehehe Do you think that'll work?? *VBG* As to the books, never heard of them. I am reading a rather interesting one myself, though; "The Devil in the Shape of a Woman." It's a factual in-depth look at women and the colonial witch hunts. Just chock full of info!! (NT) -- Ann, 13:30:04 11/21/03 Fri
  • Blizzard? No snow in sight here. We have it about 10°C warm and it doesn´t feel anything like Christmas is coming soon. Oh well, we should get used to it. Last year it was so warm on New Years Eve that we could be outside for doing the fireworks with the coats open. I remember in my childhood it used to be freezing and we had ice-rain that night! Talk about global warming! (NT) -- Martina, 07:16:14 11/24/03 Mon
• More information about Oversoul Seven in here>>> -- Martina, 04:59:00 11/24/03 Mon

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• Speaking of Christmas - we have been so busy with house stuff that I couldn´t think of buying gifts yet. Each year I am getting stressed by buying at the last minute, which I hate! But it looks like it will be the same this year.*lol* What about you guys? When do you do your Christmas shopping? I don´t even know what to buy!! WAAAHHH! Panic! (NT) -- Martina, 04:05:48 11/19/03 Wed
• Is this today's bulletin board Martina:)?? I've often wanted to post a 'life' update here from me but then just never did. No rants really, not much funny. Mingo is sick, getting over his second strep infection in a month. Took him to the dr's last week for pink eye and found strep too. So now the poor thing has the stomach flu too. Took him back to the dr yesterday just to check and this flu looks to be a week long with fever, so he's been out of school since last Wed. and he'll miss the rest of this week too I think. We are getting a second opinion on his tonsils next week. The poor little guy has enlarged tonsils and rough snoring, some sleep apnea so looks like we may have to take out those tonsils. (NT) -- JeanClaire, 07:24:28 11/19/03 Wed
  • More!! DD has not been doing well in school this year. In third grade and I've already had conferences with the teacher twice already. She seems to have hit a brick wall is how the teacher phrased it and doesn't really know how to reach her. And if she doesn't know then I don't know and it's very frustrating. We've had our share of friend problems as well. You know 8 year olds are starting to be cruel and I know this is only the beginning. Which I never understood why. Christmas, not yet. We've got Thanksgiving first here in the States... so next week I'll be asking for prayers for me. At my house, not that I mind cooking the feast, I love it actually. But Mom and my sis-in-law don't exactly get along if you remember from last year's Thanksgiving at my house and over this year things have gotten, well let's just say "weirder" for lack of any other word. (Besides I don't want to fill the page with my their recent history!) (NT) -- JeanClaire-who had hoped to be finished with Christmas shopping now but this year just can't seem to think about the holiday yet., 07:33:42 11/19/03 Wed
    • JC, if you want to e-mail me about DD, we can see if we can problem-solve a bit together to get her over this wall. (NT) -- Brenda, 10:36:20 11/19/03 Wed
      • Brenda, I was thinking of you and doing exactly that as I posted about her school work. I'll get my thoughts in a row and write later. Sorry I'll miss you on MSN:)! (NT) -- JC*, 10:54:38 11/19/03 Wed
        • Hey Bren, which email address should I use?? (NT) -- JeanClaire, 12:36:10 11/19/03 Wed
          • Use brendassoap at hotmail dot com - I'll check it later today, gotta make cinnamon buns and soap this afternoon. (NT) -- Brenda, 13:06:52 11/19/03 Wed
            • Mmmm... cinnamon buns and soap, sounds yummy!*lol* (NT) -- Martina, 03:17:25 11/20/03 Thu
              • I read it first as cinnamon bun soap!! There's an idea for you Brenda! (NT) -- JC*, 07:00:08 11/20/03 Thu
                • Funny thing is, I've seen soap made to look like cinnamon buns, lol. (NT) -- Brenda, 19:49:50 11/20/03 Thu
              • The soap comes in useful to wash all that gooey stickiness and cream cheese frosting off your face afterwards : ) (NT) -- Brenda, 19:48:45 11/20/03 Thu
• I think this is a GREAT idea, Martina! A little frivolity mixed in with all the serious, cerebral stuff would be great. DH is home sick today (so I won't be seeing JC or Betsy on MSN this morning *pout*). DD had a dance competition last weekend and medaled in all her events (must be the new kilt *g*) and DS, who is 13, is doing the adoloscent mood thing. My dragonboat season is over but the team meets once a week for strength training over the winter. I have not even started to think about Christmas yet because I have to get through writing first term report cards first. I am going in to Vancouver with a couple girlfriends the weekend after next for "an overnighter" to shop and go out for dinner, etc. It should be a good time. DH gladly justifies paying for a hotel if it means he doesn't need to venture near a mall *g*. (NT) -- Brenda, 10:34:25 11/19/03 Wed
  • Hope DH doesn't have the week long stomach flu my little guy has! Hope he's feeling better soon. Must be DD's new kilt--congrats to her! Ahhh, a girlfriend weekend, how fun! (NT) -- JeanClaire, 10:57:46 11/19/03 Wed
  • Cool! That weekend sounds nice to me. How many will you be? Have FUN!!! I laughed about your DH not wanting to get near a mall.*ROFL* Hey, how does the strength training look like? You all sitting on chairs and pretend rowing?*VBG* Oh, and congrats to DD! (NT) -- Martina, 03:12:15 11/20/03 Thu
    • 3 girls will be escaping captivity for the weekend, Martina. Strength training is a combination of yoga ("Now you take your right leg and wrap it around your ear."), pilates ("make those abs BURN") and upper body strengthening (read: pushups). I come home after and kind of pour myself into bed! (NT) -- Brenda, 19:53:06 11/20/03 Thu
      • I believe that! Sounds like I could need such a training too. Doing something against the winter-padding is always a good idea. :) (NT) -- Martina, 08:40:12 11/21/03 Fri
• Ok, jumping in here....haven't been here in a while. >>>>went long go inside>>> -- Colly, 11:50:39 11/20/03 Thu
• Okay, light enough I guess - an update on my caffeine contest. I now have coffee only when I am out at a restaurant, and even then I sometimes drink just water. Thus it is correct to say that I have a caffeine intake no more than once a day, and usually none at all. I found Postum and it substitutes nicely for coffee at breakfast and lunch when at home. I use peppermint herbal tea for dinner and Sleepytime herbal tea before retiring for the night. I just had some Lemon herbal tea and I found I'll have to avoid letting it steep too long as it was rather strong. How well do I sleep now? There seems to be an improvement this week after about two weeks of reducing the caffeine to very small amounts. Tuesday night I had 6 1/2 hours straight through and last night about 5. Oh, and I eat no chocolate now. Thanks again for everyone's advice two weeks ago. (NT) -- Ron, 15:41:09 11/20/03 Thu
  • Good to hear! The ads up there have had tea and decaf coffee for weeks. And now there's vanilla and sencha tea, yum!! (NT) -- JeanClaire*, 17:31:26 11/20/03 Thu
• Good idea Martina! Well besides work being slow also, like Colly (must be the industry), I took a wire-wrapping class this past Tuesday so I can add that to my repetiore (I KNOW I butchered that word!). My stuff at the gallery is getting rave reviews and I finally feel I'm on the right path with my business. I am getting more orders for healing pieces and feel that could be a good avenue for me to follow too. I was in Canada visiting a good friend and hit all the major rock shops (talk about a kid in a candy store) and I've completed my first two precious metal clay pieces which will be another thing to add to my jewelers resume. I'm still struggling with not being able to do my own business full time but am being told by many in the business that it will happen for sure and if they believe it, I must also. I'm getting out more with friends and enjoying life to the fullest too! I'm thankful for what is happening in my life right now for the most part! (NT) -- Lori, 17:53:53 11/20/03 Thu
  • That sounds wonderful positive, I am glad for you! We will be busy with putting wooden floors into our house this weekend. I hope JS will be able to sleep after that, because he has terrible problems with his back (compressed disks). He will be seeing a doc on Monday. Other than that, and we could need some more money in our pockets*g*, we are pretty happy too. :) (NT) -- Martina, 04:52:18 11/21/03 Fri

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• My experiences show that people that do those things without even blinking seldom get caught. Me on the other hand, I seem to attract unwanted attention when I do something not quite legal. Maybe for the fear of getting caught? I would say don´t care about what they do, but stay away from doing it too. Maybe you can kinda sneak out of that? If they already know it isn´t your kind of thing it should be possible, right? That´s my opinion on this. (NT) -- Martina, 03:42:10 11/19/03 Wed
• I'm in the same boat as Martina. If I do something, even remotely wrong, my guilt is written all over my face. I have a hard time with people who are unethical or "hide things". I work with an administrator who tells the teachers there is no more money for books and resources for kids, yet manages to have his office redecorated. It completely frustrates me, but I just try to avoid him as much as possible considering we are working together. Since this person is my "boss" it is not going to be worth the stress it would cause in the work environment by confronting him. However, if he ever asks me to do something that is not right, I, like you, Lori, would have to say no. I lock horns enough with this person over educational issues and that I don't need that too. (NT) -- Brenda, 10:46:33 11/19/03 Wed
• Jumping in a bit late here...... Every job I have had in the auto industry has done that to some degree or another. Some on a larger scale than others and I voiced a protest at that. I don't think you can be held responsible if you are just an employee, but i understand where you are coming from. At my current job, we strive to do things "by the book" as best we can but there are a few occasions where we fudge something small. Usually it is a payback situation where an insurance company cut us on something. It's a common ongoing thing that is "known" about even if it isn't completely ethical. The automotive business is terrible for this sort of thing though and you can't really fight it. If the pay is good and they treat you well.......I hate to say it but, stick with it and don't put too much thought into it. Most likely your competitors are doing the exact same thing. (NT) -- Colly, 11:40:23 11/20/03 Thu

• Sure do... try here, just got it in my mailbox... (can't remember how to do a link) For full version, including pictures and graphics, please see the following message here: http://www.lightworker.com/beacons/111503HarmonicCon.htm Just cut and paste. Once you get to the site, there should be connections to previous newsletters and all kinds of other information. My daughter in college was asking me the same thing just last night. She says that lots of people she knows from many different locations (not just her school) are feeling very strange these days, unsettled. I hope it's just energy coming in and not another 9-11 thing. (NT) -- Lissa, 14:44:42 11/16/03 Sun
• Hello LindaE! So there really are lurkers out there, haha. Thanks for de-lurking! ;) I agree with what Lissa said. And some years ago a psychic lady told me things will go faster and faster in the future. We will experience the effects of the causes we set up faster too, up to immediately! I personally have noticed that too. It is to make people notice how much their creative thoughts are being put into deeds (effects), and that they are actually related to the results we see. I hope I make sense to you! (NT) -- Martina, 03:41:59 11/17/03 Mon
• Hi Linda! Welcome to our little corner of the world. I agree with you guys, I've noticed it too and it's very unsettling to me. I almost feel like I'm fighting it in some ways like maybe our parents or grandparents might have when the world started becoming more mechanical, and automated etc. I'm trying to figure out if what Martina said about the effects of our causes are coming about faster if that goes for the changes we try to make that are positive. It seems every time I try to "get ahead" something is there to drag me back down. I know there are circumstances that create good things along with the bad but sometimes that feels a little out of balance too. Good question. I'll check out the web site you posted Lissa. (NT) -- Lori trying desparately to be positive no matter what happens ; ), 18:24:24 11/18/03 Tue
• Welcome LindaE. Yes, life is spinning madly out of control. You just need to spend an hour around my family to know how true this is, lol. (NT) -- Brenda, 10:49:33 11/19/03 Wed

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• HAPPY ANNIVERSARY, BETSY AND DAVID! (NT) -- Ron, 22:51:51 11/16/03 Sun
• HAPPY ANNIVERSARY from me too. Have a great one!!! (NT) -- Martina, 03:37:00 11/17/03 Mon
• Happy anniversary Betsy and David! Enjoy your day (and your night *wink*) (NT) -- Brenda, 19:35:45 11/17/03 Mon
• Happy Anniversary you two! Much love from Minnesota! (NT) -- Lori, 18:10:59 11/18/03 Tue

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• A little early, but HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BETSY!!!! (NT) -- Ron, 22:30:36 11/13/03 Thu
• Happy birthday Betsy! Hope you are well enough to go out and have a great time. (NT) -- Brenda, 22:37:09 11/13/03 Thu
• Herzlichen Glückwunsch!!! May the next year make up for the last one!!! ((((Betsy)))) (NT) -- Martina, 03:58:51 11/14/03 Fri
• Betsy, dear friend!!! May you enjoy a wonderful birthday with your family. Enjoy your time with your brothers, take some time for yourself and know that you are, indeed, worthy!!!!!! Happy Birthday, girlfriend. All the best in this coming year. (NT) -- Keira, 20:54:51 11/14/03 Fri
• Betsy, dear friend!!! May you enjoy a wonderful birthday with your family. Enjoy your time with your brothers, take some time for yourself and know that you are, indeed, worthy!!!!!! Happy Birthday, girlfriend. All the best in this coming year. (NT) -- Keira, 20:58:23 11/14/03 Fri
• Betsy, Happy Birthdayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy. big hugs to you... (NT) -- Isabelle, 21:37:19 11/14/03 Fri
• Why, thanks Everyone! I had a very sweet, quiet day yesterday. Today my brothers are arriving and we will go enmasse to the movies! First, a nice family supper, though. Don't know just what yet, but something warm and homey. Thanks for the wishes. I really warms my spirit!!! And, JC....I just LOVE this picture!!! (NT) -- Betsy, 07:31:04 11/15/03 Sat
  • Betsy, pumpkin soup maybe:)! Let us know what movie you went to see. Glad you love your picture!! (NT) -- JC*, 15:29:40 11/15/03 Sat
• HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BETSY!!! (psst, what's that wee man got in his mouth???) teehee Hope your day was grand! Lots of Love to you. (NT) -- Lissa, 14:47:37 11/16/03 Sun
  • So it wasn´t only me thinking about this. Bwahahahaha! (NT) -- Martina, 03:35:47 11/17/03 Mon
• Happy Birthday dear Betsy! Sorry this is late. I'm getting busy once again as the holidays approach. Hope you had a great one and I hope your MRI came (or comes back) with more positive news! We're thinking about ya!! (NT) -- Lori, 18:08:32 11/18/03 Tue

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• Melissa, you and your family will be in my prayers. I love and miss you. (NT) -- Betsy, 08:38:41 11/11/03 Tue
• Love and Light to you and your familiy (((((Melissa)))))! (NT) -- Martina, 09:29:06 11/11/03 Tue
• Melissa...lay your head lass, we are here to hold you up. Sending you lots of Love your way!! (Christine, I'll be in and out today too but can try and grab you tomorrow morning...??) (NT) -- JeanClaire*, 10:48:33 11/11/03 Tue
• We've never met in person, but, (((((Melissa))))) (NT) -- Ron, 11:05:19 11/11/03 Tue
• I'm so very sorry to hear this Melissa. My thot's and prayers and positive energy are coming your way. (((((((((((((((Melissa))))))))))))) (NT) -- Lori, 19:28:47 11/11/03 Tue
• (((((Melissa))))) I am so sorry to hear of your Da's passing. Keeping you and your family in my thoughts and prayers. (NT) -- Brenda, 21:22:57 11/11/03 Tue
• Big Hugs to You Melissa, I'm not coming here that often but haven't forgotten you... }}}}}}}} Melissa{{{{{{{{ (NT) -- IsabelleKiltup, 21:43:45 11/14/03 Fri

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• Hi Betsy! 4 sizes??? Wow!!! Congrats! Another surgery coming up? Hey, at least now you know where the pain comes from. You will be so relieved when it is over! Sending you strength! (((((Betsy)))) Yes, I have heard from Jeannine. She says all is well, she is just staying away from everything these days, needing some time for herself. (NT) -- Martina, 09:27:42 11/11/03 Tue
• You are allowed to whine!!!! Did I tell you how wonderful you looked in NH, well ya did:)! And now after this operation you will start to feel more wonderful too. I haven't heard from Jeannine again Lady, email me when you get a chance. When are you going in to surgery, let us know, K! (NT) -- JeanClaire*, 10:51:01 11/11/03 Tue
• Glad to hear the source of the pain has been identified. Now you can look forward to being without it. A physical hug at this time might give you more agony, but in cyberspace it won't hurt a bit, so here goes .... (((((Betsy))))) (NT) -- Ron, 11:07:37 11/11/03 Tue
• Oh dear, Betsy! Well, they say things come in threes, so I guess this should be the last of it! I'm glad you have an answer to why you are hurting though and now you can fix the problem. ((((Betsy)))) (NT) -- Brenda, 15:29:12 11/11/03 Tue
• OMG! You poor thing. That sounds painful and to be sure. At least they took the x-rays and found it. I'm sending healthy positive energy your way and hope the surgery goes well. Congrats on losing all those sizes. Good for you. I'd pat you on the shoulder but like Ron said...consider yourself patted and hugged in cyber space!! Keep us posted on your shoulder! (NT) -- Lori, 19:33:38 11/11/03 Tue
• ((((Betsy)))))), that's it for now, cause I'm on the phone just dialing your number!!!!!! (NT) -- Keira, 15:57:52 11/12/03 Wed
• I saw the surgeon today. I have an MRI tomorrow and another appt. on the 20th. She said I'll probably be out of work 2-3 MONTHS!!!! Don't quite know how we'll cope, but we will. Meanwhile, I juggle work and vicodin. This really stinks!!! Thanks, All, for the shoulder to whine apon. I'll be whining more before this is over. (NT) -- Betsy, 22:14:25 11/12/03 Wed
• Oh I'm so sorry Betsy and I hope it will get better with or without surgery... I'm so glad to know that you are doing so well since your gastric bypass,. I was always wondering, whooohooo soon you'll make us all jealous in your bikini on a tropical beach !!! ahahha but it's great news, thank you I really wanted to know... (NT) -- IsabelleKiltup, 21:42:10 11/14/03 Fri

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• Fortunately that never happened to me. I have wished for circumstances to change, and that came true. Sometimes in a bad way, like losing a job. But when I wished my teacher to be dead in school, that didn´t happen. Thank God!*lol* (NT) -- Martina, 09:43:49 10/08/03 Wed
• I am going to confess that I have, indeed, had nasty thoughts about a few other people (who were just downright nasty themselves). I could picture them meeting all sorts of terrible tragedies (wicked, arent' I?) However, I only wished them half-heartedly and nothing ever happened (whew!). I know I would have felt terrible if it had! (NT) -- Brenda, 11:07:13 10/08/03 Wed
• Well I must confess I have had nasty thot's about what people "deserve" but try not to think about them too much. I guess I feel that if you think hard enough, you CAN actually send alot of negative energy their way. I don't recall if any time I did this, something actually happened but most of the time just thinking that I wished something bad would happen to them made me feel bad myself. Maybe that's transferrence of some kind. If you think really bad thot's about someone else, does the negative energy flow back into you? Not sure about that one. Makes some sense tho'. I've always lived by the "Do what ye will but harm none" way of thinking. I spose it's not horrible if you just think it as long as you don't spend alot of energy actually "wanting" something bad to happen to someone. Unfortunately I believe that it's in our human nature to think these things. (NT) -- Lori, 18:34:55 10/08/03 Wed
  • I am not sure about the backflow. Do all those voodoo priests and black magic people get the bad energy back??? About the intensity, well, if we could actually wish someone else dead JS´s ex-wife wouldn´t be alive any more.*VBG* (NT) -- Martina, 03:50:29 10/09/03 Thu
• I posted this because a friend told me she once had a really horrible boss and she was so desperate that she wished him to die. He was a tyrant, and she was crying every day. She then got a new job and heard that he really had died, a horrible death! Of course she wouldn´t ever wish THAT on anybody. She feels kinda guilty still, and takes care of her thoughts now.*g* (NT) -- Martina, 03:40:41 10/09/03 Thu
  • HUH?? What happened to the rest of this thread? sorry to see I was deleted... (NT) -- Viive, 18:20:11 10/23/03 Thu
    • Oops, I just saw your reply. I have no clue what happened. Cyberspace acting up? (NT) -- Martina, 03:39:40 11/13/03 Thu

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• Very interesting Lissa! I received an email about this from Inner Piece Music. They suggest everyone meditate and send out positive loving vibes tonight, starting about 8:30pm. There will be large groups chanting 'ohm' as well. Here is a link to a webpage on the Harmonic Concordance, lots of information on this event! http://www.harmonicconcordance.com/ (NT) -- Linda, 18:07:45 11/08/03 Sat
• I´ll give something to discuss now.*g* I have read a lot of books on how it is "on the other side", and how we choose our life pattern before we incarnate, etc. There was no word about earth changing into a heaven-like place. Seems like those messages don´t go along with psychics and channels who give us messages from the other side. That´s an entire different belief system, or such. I personally think if earth is a place where souls go to grow, we don´t need it to be like "home". Why getting into the human shape then at all? I would just stay "at home", if you ask me, hehe. Who else here believes in earth changing like that? And what makes you think so? I would really like to talk about this. Thanks! (NT) -- Martina, 05:38:29 11/10/03 Mon
  • Hey Martina! :) I took it more as a subtle shift towards more spirituality, in order to 'save' the earth from our own destructive patterns. Both through the environment and through war - the threat of nuclear weapons etc. I think this shift is necessary if Earth is to survive as a learning place for our souls. (NT) -- Linda, 10:23:36 11/10/03 Mon

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• Hi, Martina! I'll contribute some meaningless chatter. I told my doctor yesterday that I was waking up in the middle of the night, so she asked me how much coffee, how much tea I drank in a day. Then came the clincher. Do you ever eat chocolate? Yes to all the above, and too much caffeine is waking me up. I have been using decaf coffee for three years, but even a little caffeine can do the evil job. So, I have decided to cut the caffeine intake in half. What is a hot drink a person can take that has no caffeine? I tried chicken soup yesterday, but once a day is enough! (NT) -- Ron, 09:56:49 11/04/03 Tue
  • Hi Ron! :-) Chicken soup is salty too, I like my tea sweet :-) what about hot milk with some honey? isn't that also supposed to make you calm and give a nice sleep? Or hot cocoa? :-) (NT) -- Antje, 11:34:06 11/04/03 Tue
    • oh, and what about "Malzkaffee"? We have Carokaffee here, it's a coffee substitute made from barley malt! It's yummy and has no caffeine at all! It's what I used to drink during pregnancy when I couldn't stand coffee ;-) (NT) -- Antje, 11:37:28 11/04/03 Tue
      • I haven't seen those two on the grocery store shelves here, but I'll look. The warm milk with honey sounds good. Doesn't cocoa come from chocolate which has caffeine? We used to have a drink made from powder called Postum, obviously a brand name. It was made from some vegetable material. I guess I can always drink water! Anyway, I'm not cutting out caffeine entirely, just cutting it in half. Maybe a health food store can give me an idea. (NT) -- Ron, 15:03:08 11/04/03 Tue
        • Yeah Ron, you probably don't want any hot chocolate either. Chocolate does have some caffeine in there. What about tea? There are some lovely herbal teas which will make you feel as though you are having a nice hot drink. I should stop drinking morning coffee but I can't, I've tried. What I miss is having a warm cuppa so when I try and cut out the coffee I switch to tea. (NT) -- JeanClaire*, 15:31:39 11/04/03 Tue
          • yes, true about the chocolate, I forgot. We've these instand cocoa powder, my sons love to drink it in milk, but you're right about the caffeiine of course! You know when it's cold outside a hot water with some fresh lemon juice and sugar is a nice drink too. We often serve this "vitamine C bomb" when we've a cold :-) I think herbal teas is an excellent idea (or Roibos tea. it's an african plant, tastes like black tea, you can get it flavored and it's high on vitamin C and other good stuff, NO caffeine at all!) and also the health food store. If you like Ron, I'd be willing to send you some Carokaffee over, just give me your address! I'd be happy to send some! :-) (NT) -- Antje, 17:08:02 11/04/03 Tue
            • Click ---- HERE---- about the Rooibos tea!!! this sounds like a good alternative! I like it vanilla flavoured *G* but it tastes very good natural as well!!! (NT) -- Antje, 17:11:35 11/04/03 Tue
              • Antje, I love rooibos. The tea is also low in tannins which makes it easier on my stomach to drink. Funny, I can drink coffee in the am no prob but a cup of tea will double me over. Rooibos is the only tea I can drink in morning. The tea is good for those with digestive problems and even with skin problems. (NT) -- JeanClaire*, 22:13:51 11/04/03 Tue
            • Antje, so good to see you here again!! And if you want Ron's address.....;)! I think I may have it around here somewhere, shhhh! (NT) -- JC*, 22:15:36 11/04/03 Tue
  • I'll add my two cents to the caffeine discussion.... One of the problems with caffeine is that it binds up calcium so that your body can't use it. It is the lack of calcium in your muscles that makes you twitch. I'm going on memory here, so forgive me if I don't know all the facts, but I have found over the years that if I have had too much caffeine, that popping some calcium pills helps with the effects. Your body can only absorb 500mg at a time, so in the evening, you can take a pill or two, spaced out to allow time to absorb. It's the calcium in the milk that is helpful. I love hot drinks all day and regular black tea is my choice after my cup or two of coffee in the morning. I have decaf tea which helps, but on the days I have overdone it, I take some calcium and that helps me to get a better sleep. (NT) -- Lissa, 10:20:57 11/05/03 Wed
• Antje, I'll pass on the Carokaffe for now. I don't want to trouble you. I may find some here. I do have some herbal tea here which I haven't tried for years. I hope it will be all right. I will try some of that in a few minutes. Being a man and living alone, for laziness, I prefer to simply heat water and pour it over something to make a hot drink. When I have company I make coffee with a drip perculator, and I always make tea in a tea pot. So, I probably won't use the milk and honey because it'll mean another pan to wash! Lazy? You bet! Thanks for all the advice, ladies. At least we have something new on the Board since Hallowe'en! (NT) -- Ron, 17:25:45 11/04/03 Tue
  • Ron, have you tried herbal chai tea? Here in BC, you can buy it as a liquid (in a tetra-pak carton). It is put out by the Oregon Tea Company. All you need to do is mix it half and half with milk (I use vanilla flavoured soy milk) and zap it in the microwave (in the mug you are going to drink it from). Voila....one dish (Unless you count the spoon you use to stir it after coming out of the microwave). I think you would like it. (NT) -- Brenda, 20:06:22 11/04/03 Tue
    • Gee, I forgot I could zap anything in the microwave! I'll look for herbal chai tea tomorrow. Another question, though - does mint tea or herbal teas have caffeine? If they do, that would defeat the purpose. The microwave use means I can easily do milk and honey! Thanks again! (NT) -- Ron (knocking himself on the head!), 02:12:24 11/05/03 Wed
      • Herbal teas do not have caffeine. You can also get most regular types of teas in a decaf form as well. Most coffee houses serve chai tea lattes, but they are not the herbal ones, they have caffeine. The one I get from Oregon Chai comes in an orange tetra-pak and says caffeine-free on it. Heck, if I can find herbal chai in my small town, I am sure they must have it in your area. Good luck. (NT) -- Brenda, 02:25:50 11/05/03 Wed
        • mint tea and other herbs haven't caffeine as far as I know, but I heard often already that it wouldn't be healthy to drink 1 litre of some herb daily - which is the amount I do usually drink of tea, I have a thermos where I prepare my tea in the morning and have some cups over the day. So, they say, that herbs do have components which are called actually "drugs" that do have a therapeutical effect. So, if you choose a sort of herb-tea you should be aware that you're "treating" your body with a very light "drug", but still a therapeutical drug. It can have health benefits, but enjoyed too much of some can have again uncomfortable side effects. It made sense to me, since in the past many sicknesses were treated with herb-teas! That's why I like the Rooibos so much, they say it's completely healthy and good for your body. I prefere black English tea though ;-) (NT) -- Antje, 04:17:04 11/05/03 Wed
          • That's why variety is the spice of life:)!!! You do need to be wary of certain herb teas. Licorice is not good if you've got high blood pressure but very good for coughs and feels good on the throat. I think I'll have to brew some rooibos later. Haven't had some in a bit. (NT) -- JeanClaire*, 08:24:27 11/05/03 Wed
• What about ovaltine. Does that have caffiene in it. Not a big fan of it myself but some people like it. (NT) -- KatieM, 05:21:21 11/05/03 Wed
• Hmmm, what's up with me?????!!!! Just my kids and Brownie girl scouts. Betsy needs to be driven to school for early bird instruction 3 days a week. She needs the extra attention. Little Guy loves kindergarten but goes in the afternoon so that breaks up errand running. Took the brownies to a science museum lock-in on Saturday night. The girls had a ball. I need to tally their fall fundraiser(magazines-not cookies) this week and plan a couple of field trips. Otherwise, not much up with me:)!! (NT) -- JeanClaire*, 08:29:29 11/05/03 Wed
  • You sound like a busy mom! Remember to try to find some time for yourself (hard to do, I know, but very important!). My son is involved in band and bass guitar lessons and my daughter is busy with her Highland dance and soccer, so I know how hectic it can get. My dragonboat team meets for training once a week still, although, at this time of year, it is strength training and running as opposed to water practices (brr!). That is my night to myself. DH has his volunteer rescue stuff to keep him busy, and we try to find time once a week to go to a movie or out to the pub together. I am still teaching grade 4, 4 days a week and have an awesome teaching partner this year. So, that's what's going on in my life....who's next? (NT) -- Brenda, 11:58:32 11/05/03 Wed
• Well, I did my shopping for caffeine free hot drinks today and think I have a solution. I bought a package which has five different herbal caffeine free teas in it, four tea bags of each, and another of lemon, although that flavour is in the first package. I discovered that Postum is still available in an A&P supermarket, so bought a jar of it. One of these choices at least should provide the answer to a satisfying and tasty hot drink which is caffeine free. I don't plan to try one after the other, remembering what Antje said. I tried one of the lemon ones just now and sweetened it with honey. The jury is still out on that one, but I have five more flavours or drinks to try. Oh, and the saleslady where I bought the herbal teas was of the opinion that herbal teas should be used within two years at the most, or thrown out, which I did to my mint tea! Thanks, everyone, for your kind advice in this discussion. (NT) -- Ron, 18:56:05 11/05/03 Wed
• Ron and Anyone having trouble sleeping: I work nights, 7pm-7am, several nights in a row, and I can't even THINK of what life would be like without my Celestial Seasons Sleepytime Extra tea. It lulls me into slumber. Heaven!!! (NT) -- Betsy, 21:45:48 11/05/03 Wed
  • In addition to this, a wee bit of lavender essential oil put just under your nose before you go to sleep works wonders. (NT) -- Brenda, 22:19:30 11/05/03 Wed
  • Betsy, that's one of the five in the packet I bought! I'm looking forward to taking a mug of it before going to bed tonight. It's hard to stop trying these out! That will make three of the five I tried today. The second was the Peppermint which I had during dinner. I liked it very much, gave it an "A". (NT) -- Ron, 22:31:16 11/05/03 Wed
    • Oh,and Brenda, I found the herbal chai tea today, but decided that six were enough to try at this time. Maybe a week from now I'll try some of it. (NT) -- Ron, 22:37:27 11/05/03 Wed
      • Oh! I am so glad to hear that you were able to find it. I drink both regular herbal tea and the herbal chai mixed half with milk. I like the chai before bed, something about the creaminess of the warmed milk in it that helps send me off to la la land. I drink regular herb tea during the day at work (being careful not to drink too much so I don't need to abandon my 30 nine year olds as I sprint for the washroom!) (NT) -- Brenda, 20:19:31 11/06/03 Thu
• Has anybody ever heard of "Labrador tea, Muskeg tea"? I had a small sample from Canada and drank it when I had bladder problems. JS´s grandma would boil the leaves for several hours. We did that, and it had an incredible effect on getting the water out of my system. I had to go pee every 15 minutes after 2 cups! Next day my problems were gone. I can´t buy that tea here, has anybody seen it in an online shop? Here´s some information about it: http://www.mun.ca/biology/delta/arcticf/_ca/www/erlepa.htm (NT) -- Martina, 06:10:19 11/10/03 Mon

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• Ditto my congrats on the SB!! And we wouldn't want you to burst now either:)!! (NT) -- JeanClaire*, 13:04:59 11/07/03 Fri
• My Heartfelt congratulations as well!!!!! You guys should see Christine when she's talking about her new Nephew ... she just beams! You must really love that huge brother of yours!!! Congratulations to all the McDonald family! (NT) -- Melissa ... who thinks your two are just about the cutest ever! I'm sure baby Cole will fit right in with the whole clan!, 22:42:23 11/07/03 Fri
  • MELISSA!!!! (((hugs)))Lady! So nice to see you here. And Christine beams over the phone lines too when she's talking about Cole:) (NT) -- JC*, 23:40:51 11/07/03 Fri
• Congratulations, Auntie Christine! Best wishes to the entire family. (NT) -- Brenda, 14:11:57 11/08/03 Sat
• How exciting for all of the involved! Congrats and best wishes from me too!!! (NT) -- Martina, 05:46:34 11/10/03 Mon

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• Martina, I don't believe that difficulties are something that mark a "wrong path." That would mean that whenever we come across a problem we are supposed to go in the other direction, or retreat. I believe that diffulties are something to learn from, and grow through. (NT) -- Ann, 21:41:54 11/07/03 Fri
• I don't know if there is a "right" or "wrong" path. I know there are easier and harder ones to walk though. I think that, even though human nature tends to guide us to choosing the easiest path, it is not always the "right" path. Sometimes that personal growth that happens by perservering through a hard path is what was meant to be. There is an incredible sense of satisfaction in accomplishing something that was very difficult. Sometimes, just because you encounter a closed door, it just means you have to find another way in, or try a different one to get to where you want to be. (NT) -- Brenda, 14:53:05 11/09/03 Sun
• Thanks girls. I was just thinking there are people that seem to always succeed, everything falls right into place for them, and some spiritual books say that is because they are "on their right path". Shakti Gawain´s books say that too. I am not so sure anymore. Maybe following the intuition is always best, no matter the results. (NT) -- Martina, 05:24:33 11/10/03 Mon

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• check out the picture of Ste Baume at this site... http://www.ecomusee-sainte-baume.asso.fr/ Can you see the houses built onto the cliff in front of the cave? The cave opening isn't as big as that dark area, it's more like a large doorway. Oh, and there is a chapel inside the cave now, with lots of cool statues. Here's a site that's in German that has lots of pictures of the interior at the bottom of the page. Just so you know, I didn't see any naked MM while there, so I don't know where this German site got all of them. hahaha http://www.lochstein.de/sainte.htm The first picture shows the cliff rising up behind the monastery on the plains, the second pic shows the entrance to the cave. The 3rd pic shows the altar with the light of the entrance falling on it, the 4th pic is looking back toward the entrance, and then there are all these naked women pictures that I never saw. haha (NT) -- Lissa, 14:34:49 11/05/03 Wed
• Oh, that's right, the church used to say that MM was a prostitute in order to discredit the feminine contribution to Jesus's story. Did you know that the RC church said way back in the 60s that MM never was a prostitute? How interesting that they don't put much energy into clearing up such a misunderstanding. (NT) -- Lissa, 14:35:52 11/05/03 Wed
• Oh, that's right, the church used to say that MM was a prostitute in order to discredit the feminine contribution to Jesus's story. Did you know that the RC church said way back in the 60s that MM never was a prostitute? How interesting that they don't put much energy into clearing up such a misunderstanding. (NT) -- Lissa, 14:43:59 11/05/03 Wed
• Thanks for the interesting links. Maybe they thought a sinner has to show skin to make clear just how sinful she was?*g* So all those interesting places are rather close to me and I´ve never been there? I was never really interested in bible history, and I guess that was a mistake. Your trip sounds awesome! The german site says a lot of kings and historical persons have visited the cave. Must be thrilling to walk the same paths they did! (NT) -- Martina, 04:52:42 11/06/03 Thu

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• This was a really interesting one! I'm a Wise One definitely. Any more info on that particular one? I'd love to hear it. Let me know... (NT) -- Lori, 22:19:36 10/26/03 Sun
  • The Wise Ones: Reincarnated Sorceresses, High-Priestesses, Sorcerers, Wizards, Shamans, and Witches. Info Inside! :) - -- Linda, 07:11:03 10/27/03 Mon
    • Wow! I am in this category too. I could nod to most of what was said. "Directors of their families" sounded familiar too. Some people call me a "control-freak" though.*lol* Very interesting, thanks Linda! (NT) -- Martina, 10:00:54 10/27/03 Mon
• Oh and regarding your last post below mine farther down - that's really cool too. I have TONS of faeries and faery dolls inside and out of my house. Faery calendars, faery figurines, you name it! I'm glad I looked down there again! Thanks for the info. (NT) -- L. again, 22:22:44 10/26/03 Sun
• Probably coming as no surprise to me.....I didn't come out strong in any category. Fitting in with me not knowing who I am lately. Feel better about the description of being evolving. I'll have to pull out my faery book again to read! (NT) -- JeanClaire*, 08:05:56 10/27/03 Mon
  • Here is the information on Evolving or Dabblers! :) - -- Linda, 09:53:34 10/27/03 Mon
    • Hmm, very interesting. As I said earlier I do have Healing with the Angels and Healing with the Faeries. Looks like I should get this one next. (NT) -- JC*, 10:30:58 10/27/03 Mon
• I've got 12 fitting answers. So I am an Incarnated Elemental! What does that mean Linda? :-) (NT) -- Antje, 11:05:22 10/27/03 Mon
  • Incarnated Elementals :) - -- Linda, 15:09:24 10/27/03 Mon
    • thanks Linda, this is interesting.... I agree about my wacky humour at times LOL, I'll print it out and read it more carefully again :-) Thanks again sweetie!!! (NT) -- Antje, 02:56:29 10/28/03 Tue
    • Yep thats me too. I wouldnt mind trying to get a hold of that book. Sounds very interesting. (NT) -- KatieM, 03:06:52 10/28/03 Tue
    • Linda!!! I didn't do that correctly!!! Blame it on English being my second language please! :-) Okay, John Scott just explained it to me and I'm a Wise One! :-) :-) Obviously NOT, cause I didn't get it ROFL (NT) -- Antje, 14:04:34 10/28/03 Tue
• Well I am predominantly an Incarnated Elemental followed very closely by a Wise One....... (NT) -- Colly, 09:11:44 10/28/03 Tue
• Martina sent this to me at work, it was fun but I have no idea where I fit in, I got 2,6,3,6,4 that would mean? In any case, it was a nice break from work! ;) (NT) -- John Scott, 14:28:16 10/28/03 Tue
  • Wow, JS, you scored high in three of these! - Elemental, Walk In and Wise One. Hmm, maybe you're a Dabbler and have experienced many of these realms, have you read the Dabbler description above to see if you feel it applies? :) (NT) -- Linda, 15:09:20 10/29/03 Wed
    • I want to add that I find the Walk In category really fascinating, I will type up some info for you on that one tomorrow. (NT) -- Linda, 15:11:15 10/29/03 Wed
  • Ummm You're a walk-in gnome??? (NT) -- Lissa, 10:29:16 11/05/03 Wed
• So, I'm apparently and Incarnated Angel.....bwahahaha.....oops, I shouldn't laugh so hard, my halo will slip! Seriously though....what is an incarnated angel? (NT) -- Brenda, 11:36:21 10/29/03 Wed
  • Incarnated Angels -- Linda, 18:29:08 10/29/03 Wed
• If your a Starperson - -- Linda, 18:41:33 10/29/03 Wed
• This is so cool! I couldn't have described myself any better!!! The only part that doesn't fit me is the part where Wise Ones are patient with others. Not my strong suit hahahahahaha. I've always felt like I didn't belong anywhere particular and knew I was different. My family always wondered "what planet I was from" hahahaha. But I never cared and after I got through puberty (boy was that nasty), I never cared that people thot' I was different and I was proud of it. Way too cool Linda. (NT) -- Lori, 20:28:05 10/29/03 Wed
  • Dito, Lori! I think it fits pretty good to me too. Patience with others? Patience in general?... what does that word mean again?*lol* (NT) -- Martina, 04:28:50 10/30/03 Thu

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