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Spirit World

~~~Blessings to all who Journey here~~~

Welcome everyone!! FYI.....This is the "Mother Board". Make sure you bookmark this page as well as the Members' pages (Photo Album) listed below. You may want to check out this board first before clicking on the link below, as the "conversation" takes place here.

And don't forget to say HELLO!!!

We also have a section for book, music and movie recommendations. (anyone is encouraged to update these) Become a member of our Spirit World Community and enjoy adding pictures and recommendations yourself!! ; )

Have fun!!

Have you ever heard of Louise L. Hay? -- Andrea, 16:25:40 05/14/04 Fri
Hello all,
I am not very often here anymore, but I lurk sometimes. Spirituality became sort of normal in my life, but I didnt use it on a regular basis. Ha! You cannot keep it out of your life. When you found it, it demands a place in your life one way or the other.

This is how its coming back in my life:

I apologize right now, because I'm going to be long *g*, but I think some of you may find this interesting.

Well, I've got the book "Heal your body" by L. L. Hay from Antje. Hay says that for every sickness, illness there is a mental reason. And she gets rid of the sickness with a new affirmation. For example I have problems with my knees at the moment. I had moments I hardly could walk. One reason could be that I cant bend my self, or not bend enough. The new affirmation could be: I bend myself to the flow easily.

I bought the book for myself as there were other things where I thought I better have this tiny book close by. And I bought another book "You can heal your life".
We all talk about creation in our life and that we create what is around us. And that we live in/with the flow of the Universe. So did I, but honestly, when there was a discussion about how we create the situations in our life (which I somehow always believed is right!) I had no idea how we resp. I would ever do that.

Hay opens a new world to me. Her way to explain exactly this is something I absolutely understand.
Actually she says that before you act or react you think. And this is the actual dilemma. No, not that we think but what we think!
Depending on what truth we learned as children it reflects our later life. Her main statement is that you have to love yourself the way you are. Only if you truly accept yourself for what you are, if you truly believe that whatever you do is best in the Universe and in your life, only then everything will be all right in your life. Okay that is the poor attempt to bring it down in 2 or 3 sentences, which is not working. But I'm really impressed, as I just recently embraced spirituality completely. I got one step ahead from halfhearted to full hearted (can you say that? :-)

I just started the book, but I know for sure right now that the reasons I have in relationships is that I never felt loved by my mother, and I always thought "I am not lovable". This is really deeply settled, but Hay also says "Yesterday is yesterday and today is today. What you thought yesterday doesnt have to be the truth today!" "There is but one person in your head that thinks - You!" "Stop blaming others for whats happening in your life. Its you who thinks and you who acts/reacts." "If you really want to change, then say it out loud. And if you dont know how to start to change, trust the Universe to find a way and take care of you."
And this is what I'm going to do now :-). I gave over to the Universe. I am willing to change and I am willing to forgive, though I do not know how to at the moment. But I trust the Universe to find a way for me.

May you too can let the Universe take care of you!

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Wow, Andrea, that's great!!! I'm so glad to hear that you found your way to Louise's books!! I remember us talking about them a looooong time ago. Well, you really notice things only if (and when) you need them (just ask Ellen, haha!). Oh, and this forgiving thing is in fact the best healer of all. If only it was a little easier! My ego is constantly getting into the way :-). Big hugs to you! (NT) -- Ellen, 17:58:00 05/14/04 Fri

( ( ( Ellen ) ) ) Did we really talk about them? I can absolutely NOT remember it *g*. I know exactly what you mean about your ego getting in the way with forgiving *sigh*, thats why I dont even bother to try to forgive. I say "I am willing to forgive." That is absolutely true! I Just have no idea how to. Well, let the Universe do something too, no? *g* (NT) -- Andrea, 07:13:03 05/15/04 Sat

((((Andrea)))) I'm so glad you found Louise Hay too! Louise Hay's books put into words, in my eyes, how to think about the root causes of illnesses and ailments. L. Hay and Carolyn Myss (Anatomy of the Spirit) have become like "must reads" - sometimes the 'cause' or affirmation may feel a bit 'off' but it helps lead you to the reason that works for you...hehe check out the 'possible cause' for migraines *whistles innocently* (NT) -- love, Viive, 09:18:50 05/15/04 Sat

Ah Viive, it seems like soo long ago that we went to see Carolyn Myss talk and have her sign our books. Just love her work. Andrea and Ellen!!!!! It's so good to see you again. (NT) -- Keira, 21:36:51 05/15/04 Sat

HAHAHA Keira, seems as I am wayyyyy behind. But as Ellen said you only notice things when you are in need for them. No, thats not true when you are ready for them is better. (NT) -- Andrea, 05:29:13 05/16/04 Sun

I have read How to Heal Your Life, and found it very informative and helpful. Louise also has tapes that are very good as well. I have her tapes on loving yourself, forgiveness, and positive affirmations. These are great to listen to as you're drifting off to sleep at night. (NT) -- Roberta, 15:02:03 05/18/04 Tue

Bert? Is this you Bert? How are ya girl??? You know I missed you a lot at the chatathon, if this is the Roberta from Canada :-) How is your new doggy? (NT) -- Andrea from Frankfurt, Germany, 15:12:43 05/18/04 Tue

Hi Andrea, yup, it's me! The new doggie (Misty) is doing well, but border collies have a load of energy, so she's been keeping me very busy and away from chats. I was sorry to have missed you at the marathon too. Maybe a catch up email is in order eh? Still got my addy?? (NT) -- Roberta, 15:37:36 05/18/04 Tue

;) wow, still on the same post ... i just wanted to add that Hay House Publishing has an excellent choice of books; all by like-minded people. http://www.hayhouse.com/index.php (NT) -- Viive, 15:52:48 05/23/04 Sun

LOL now I notice that at the top of my VoyForums page is a little clicket ad for Louise Hay's publishing company, Hay House...is that new? (NT) -- Viive, 19:58:11 05/27/04 Thu

The little clickette at the top keeps changing. The theory is that the content of the board is somehow monitored and the clickette at the top will change accordingly. (NT) -- Roberta, 10:50:30 05/28/04 Fri

Safe, within the Womb.... -- Viive, 13:59:02 05/24/04 Mon
deep
Mother's heart beats
deeper than all beyond
crystal clear, life coursing outward spiraling
upward, deeply inward
timeless

tears, the pain lies deep
as joy,
gather close wayward child
Mother calls
listen
deep
she cries..put down your playthings, listen
crystal clear
her tears a river
spiraling deep within the soul

deep within the ache
twisting .. into longing
the heavens call out
and She
desolate in the
wilderness
reaches out..

(feeling the pain of Mother Earth)
love, Viive

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Wow, Viive, love your poem. Being a recent convert to the plight of Mother Earth myself I can say your words are very heartfelt. Thanks for sharing! (NT) -- Bandruidh, 19:06:02 05/24/04 Mon
Viive, thank you for posting this-it's absolutely beautiful. I love the words!! Very moving. (NT) -- Keira, 17:40:15 05/26/04 Wed

Something inspiring! -- Martina, 02:40:54 05/03/04 Mon
Hi folks! Found that and thought it's something to share. Hope everybody is doing fine!

Hugs,
Martina

Unknown author
--
I feared being alone
until I learned to like myself.

I feared failure until I realized
that I only fear when I don't try.

I feared success until I realized I had
to try in order to be happy with myself.

I feared other people's opinions until I learned
that people would have opinions about me anyway.

I feared rejection until
I learned to have faith in myself.

I feared pain until I learned
that it is necessary for growth.

I feared the truth until
I saw the ugliness in lies.

I feared life until
I experienced it's beauty.

I feared death until I realized
that it is not and end, but a beginning.

I feared my destiny until I realized
that I have the power to change my life.

I feared hate until I saw
that it was nothing but ignorance.

I feared ridicule until
I learned how to laugh at myself.

I feared growing old until
I realized that I gained wisdom every day.

I feared the future until
I realized that life just kept getting better.

I feared the past until
I realized it could no longer hurt me.

I feared the dark until
I saw the beauty of the starlight.

I feared the light until
I learned that the truth would give me strength.

I feared change until I saw
that even the most beautiful butterfly
had to undergo a metamorphosis
before it could fly.

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Is it my computer, or there no wallpaper any more? And who has the password for this board please??? (NT) -- Martina, 07:17:59 05/04/04 Tue
I was wondering the same thing myself, Martina. I began thinking that someone should take responsibility for deleting spam or posts from the turkeys out there-LOL. We could also play with the wallpaper on a regular basis. (NT) -- Keira, 12:54:46 05/04/04 Tue
Hi! my old password doesn't seem to work; it was originally Jennifer, Melissa and I...ages ago, but I think someone must have taken over, in my absence my email account got closed, tho I've resurrected it again just recently. I do seem to get mail as "assistant manager" so I'll try to find out. Maybe..Christine? is it you? or JeanClaire? (NT) -- Viive, 15:00:29 05/04/04 Tue

at about this time last year Christine posted something about the picture in the header and moving the angel, so maybe she holds the "key"? (NT) -- still V., 16:01:32 05/04/04 Tue

I think you're right Viive. When are we going to see you again in Southern Ontario? It's been a long, long time! (NT) -- Ron, 17:06:17 05/04/04 Tue

A lovely piece of writing. Thanks for posting it Martina. (NT) -- Brenda, 19:20:15 05/04/04 Tue
Hi .... i think Christine has the KEY! Maybe I still do .. if someone wants to try it, you can email me and I'll pass it along. I personally will screw it up if I dive into the masterscreen!. Hi Viive! (NT) -- melissa, 06:43:28 05/05/04 Wed

((((Melissa)))) I can't even email you, i lost all my addies some time ago. *hanging my head in shame* Has something changed around here, do we need to PAY to be signed in members of VoyForums? Or ... ? Does the same old 'key' work? or was it changed? (NT) -- *hugging you* Viive, 23:15:36 05/16/04 Sun

Interesting Topic -- Keira, 11:01:50 05/08/04 Sat
Good Morning all!!!!!!!!

Aramathea is a Hoser who is living in Japan at the moment. She has posted a question over on the Social Board about past lives. She's presently reading James Long's Ferney and finds the topic of past lives verra interesting. I've encouraged her to come and poast over here. I'd love a discussion on past lives-seems a long time since we've discussed this.

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I don't know if this has to do with past lives, but I have had experiences that have left me shaken where I absolutely will not enter a house or building or even step on a property I have never seen before because I have an unassailable conviction that there is Evil there. Is that from past experience or another sense? (NT) -- beccabee, 14:13:04 05/08/04 Sat
Hi Keira. I wasn't aware that Aramathea was in Japan. Do you have her email? I'd like to contact her about it cause my DD and future DS-I-L are thinking about going there to work for a couple of years. (NT) -- Aislinn as she fades back into said lurkerdom. *G*, 19:44:11 05/08/04 Sat

Mail on its way! (NT) -- Aramathea, 22:49:36 05/08/04 Sat

Is that your right address? I sent you an email but the daemons sent it back. (NT) -- Aramathea, 23:17:39 05/08/04 Sat

Oops! Looks like I forgot to add an 'n' in Aislinn. Email on the way. (NT) -- Aislinn, 14:33:36 05/09/04 Sun

Oh, my name precedes me! :) Hi Keira, I remembered someone mentioning on a chat not long ago that they had read Ferney but couldn't remember who. It's the first book in a long time that I haven't been able to put down.>>> -- Aramathea, 22:47:55 05/08/04 Sat

Aramathea, I also wanted to reiterate how much I love his writing style. He reminds me of some of the old classic writers, i.e. Thomas Hardy and so on. (NT) -- Keira, 08:47:21 05/11/04 Tue

My experiences inside>>>> -- Martina, 03:58:02 05/10/04 Mon

I forgot! >>> -- Martina, 04:10:39 05/10/04 Mon
Martina, I hate having anything rubbed across my throat. It makes me wonder if something happened to me at some point. Also, I hate having my arms pinned and not being able to move them. I have never done a regression but it would not surprise me to find that something, sometime, caused for me to feel this way. Welcome to SW Aramathea! (NT) -- Brenda, 19:55:22 05/10/04 Mon

Oh I hate having my arms pinned too! But maybe that's only because it makes us feel helpless, and I hate feeling helpless.*g* (NT) -- Martina, 12:11:30 05/11/04 Tue

I have not had a regression done, but I do have a strong feeling that I must have been a healer in my past life where I was not allowed to practice legally. I must have felt threatened in some way. I know two people who are very insightful. Although they do not know each other, both of these people have made comments to me about practicing my "healing" safely in this lifetime. Interesting to say the least. I also absolutely HATE having anything around my neck, can't even stand Dave's hands near my throat-gives me shivers just writing about it. Perhaps I was beheaded or strangled. Would be interesting to have a regression done. (NT) -- Keira, 20:27:21 05/10/04 Mon
Instant attraction>>> -- Aramathea, 21:10:04 05/10/04 Mon

Wow, that's amazing! Did you see the future always in dreams, or also in day dreams? (NT) -- Martina, 12:08:23 05/11/04 Tue

If you mean like waking trance daydreams, I've never had those. It's always just been in dreams, (NT) -- Aramathea, 20:43:25 05/11/04 Tue

Hi all! Caught this discussion on the Social Board and decided to jump over here to see what others had to say on the subject. I've never had a regression done, but here are my "experiences">>> -- Christina V., 12:35:47 05/12/04 Wed

Haha, that's all very interesting. You mentioned things I hadn't even thought about. Like the passion for ancient Egypt, I have that too. Regression therapists actually are in our yellow pages in Germany.*g* Mostly they are homeopaths that did some courses on it. I could also find them in Reiki-centres and any 'new age' group over here. (NT) -- Martina, 13:51:23 05/12/04 Wed
Christina, glad you jumped in!!! Sounds like you are really in tune with your paddions. Stick around and post whenever. Anything else intrest you? (NT) -- Keira, 13:48:14 05/13/04 Thu

Haaahaaahaaa, I canna spell today. That should be passions!!! (NT) -- Keira, 13:49:34 05/13/04 Thu

Well, not sure about past lives......but I do have strange experiences/dreams/coincidences that happen from time to time. >>> -- Colly, 16:13:04 05/12/04 Wed

In reference to your house experience, I have a passion for and a longing for a bungalow. I feel that I just must have one before I die. I have only been in one once, an acquaintance of my parents' many years ago for just a few minutes, but I had an inexplicable feeling that I was home and safe. Bungalows are the total opposite of the feelings I described in my first post above - the ultimate safety. If I had one before, that would place me in the early part of the 20th century sometime in a former life, which would also mesh with my passion for Art Deco. I even dream in Art Deco. (NT) -- beccabee, 02:48:22 05/13/04 Thu

I remembered another one. On about 5 or 6 different occasions I've had people either ask me or assume that I play the harp. Once a new acquaintance actually introduced me to her friend as a harpist! I have no real interest in harps and have never even touched one before. (NT) -- Aramathea, 20:45:54 05/12/04 Wed

Checking In -- Colly, 15:39:55 05/05/04 Wed
I haven't been around here much lately. It's nice to hear from some of you again. Viive! Long time, no see. Michelle, congrats on finding your soul mate. I actually found a very nice kilt wearing Canadian (Toronto) lad last summer through an online dating service. He is currently living in Scotland, indefinitely, but we keep in touch via email. Will also spare details of the bizarre and strange dating sitiuations I've endured over the last year or so...though it would make a great book. I think some of us should compile a book of dating horror stories. We could set it up on Martina's website!
Otherwise, things have been so so....on the up side...I paid off all of my personal debt (with the exception of the house payment and a tiny balance at Victoria's Secret!). On the downside, work and my business is very slow, my pay has been cut and it looks like I may not have a job for much longer. I've also been dealing with miscellaneous irritating medical problems. Allergies, sinus problems,etc. I spoke to a specialist tuesday and am now contemplating whether or not I want to have surgery on my deviated septum, to help me breathe clearer. He said I would have a 50% improvement in my breathing if I have it done. I'm terrified of anasthesia though, so if anything keeps me from doing it....that will be it!
Ryan is doing well, soccer has started back up for spring. His team isn't doing well but he is still having fun playing.
I went to a Soapmakers Conference recently and that was fun. I learned a few new techniques and picked up a few new recipes.
Other than that, not much else is happening.
Great to see everyone.
Hugs

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Colly, I don't know if anyone has suggested this or not, but I have a rosemary bush and when my head is really bad I snap off a leaf or two and crush them between my fingers and inhale. That clears me out pretty well. Maybe you have some rosemary oils for your soaps and have tried that already. Anyway, I sympathize, I was fighting another earache/headache from Hell today. Hugs to you! (NT) -- beccabee, 23:25:29 05/05/04 Wed

Thanks for the suggestion beccabee. I love the smell of rosemary (though I can't keep a rosemary plant alive to save my life) and I do have a bottle of the oil. I use that or eucalyptus or peppermint when my sinuses get really terrible. (NT) -- Colly, 16:53:21 05/06/04 Thu

Colly, I can only recomment kilt wearing Canadians!*VBG* Cool idea for my website, yes, go ahead and write that book! I know it would be a blast to read. ;) (NT) -- Martina, 05:23:10 05/06/04 Thu

Hello from the West Coast -- Brenda, 14:00:30 05/05/04 Wed
It is so nice to see some activity on this board again. I check it daily but it has been SO quiet. I certainly don't have anything going on in my life as exciting as many of us here, no new men (I'll hang on to my old one *g*), no new house (at least not for a couple years), and no trans-continental relocation (Hi Martina!).

I am still busy with my two active kids. Between band practices, music lessons, mountain biking, and dance lessons and competitions, I still teach 4 days a week (Wednesdays off), and paddle with a dragonboat team twice a week (our first regatta of the year is next weekend).

DH and I are hoping to go to Scotland next summer. I finally convinced him to read the books and now I am going to have a fight on my hands when the new one comes out. I have a feeling it will have multiple bookmarks in it *g*. We are also hoping to build a new home within the next three years. Our neighbourhood is growing up around us and, as much as it is a nice neighbourhood, we miss the orchard and sheep farm that used to be across the road. It is all houses now and there is a steady stream of traffic along our road. I miss having open spaces around me.

Well, I hope this activity keeps up on this board. Wishing you all the best!

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Glad to hear your life is going smoothly! I sooo understand your wish for open spaces! Same here! Wishing you luck for finding the right place! (NT) -- Martina, 05:25:41 05/06/04 Thu

Been a busy girl -- Michelle, 19:22:49 05/02/04 Sun
So, I'm catching up...I truly was just thinking of all of you, and realizing how "not-good" I've been about being in touch. It's been a busy year. Things at work went merrily down the tubes -- fortunately, I decided to take a big risk at about the same time. That's right, little miss long-range plan decided to do the whole match.com thing. I still have no idea what possessed me, but I did it! I'll spare you the saga of the BAD dates (one rescue phone call and one dude who told me he wanted to bring a dictionary!...and those are the amusing ones!), and tell you that I'm now a big proponent of such services. Despite all my intentions to the contrary, and despite all my public avowals to the contrary as to what I was "sure" I wanted, I'll marry my soulmate, my best friend, my anchor on July 10. He's another teacher...divorced, and has custody of his three sons, whose ages range from 10-13. (God has no sense of proportion!) As if that weren't crazy enough, since we were both in "not-good" situations at work...we're moving to ALABAMA!!! Now I ask you...what's a Minnesota girl like me doing moving to Birmingham?!?!

Never say never, my friends...and never cease to be surprised by the gifts that come our way!

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Usually I stick to the Social board but once in a while I venture this way.......and I had to reply to your story! Five months ago tomorrow I had my first date with someone I met on Yahoo personals. Before him I had a couple of good dates, and a couple of lousy dates, but took it all in stride. When I met Darryl everything just clicked. I never thought I'd be the "personals" type of gal, but decided it was worth a shot. Good for you too! We're not at the wedding stage yet, but nothing would make me happier and I know he thinks about it too. You should LOVE Alabama, it's beautiful and very affordable to live there. My aunt is a real estate agent in the Huntsville area, if it would help I can put you in touch with her, just let me know. (NT) -- Sorcha, 23:20:09 05/02/04 Sun
Great news, girls! Don't be strangers so long the next time! (NT) -- Ron, 08:34:24 05/03/04 Mon
Michelle!!!! Congratulations Girl!!!! This is so exciting for you. I'm truly thrilled that you have found your soul mate. Keep us up to date with the wedding plans. Good luck in Alabama-that truly is quite a move. Does your man have any dogs to go along with the boys? I know you'll make a great step-mum. Again, congrats-we're really happy for you. (NT) -- Keira, 22:19:11 05/03/04 Mon

WOOOOWWW...I haven't been here in ages, but what great news to sign on and find!! One question...er..does he wear a kilt? hehe...I'm sure that pickin' out a few bits o' bracken won't stop you..I'm really glad for you, Michelle! and btw...I was in Alabama last year, I really enjoyed it! ...( 'twas on my way to New Orleans) Oh, I can't help but remember us all once threatening..er promising...to be the cyber buddies at your wedding...dressed in black, wearing berets, carrying laptops, communicating by tapping on the keys....lol...waiting for an invite! Michelle, I really am thrilled for you! ((((((((((Michelle)))))))))) (NT) -- with love, Viive, 14:39:57 05/04/04 Tue

Keira...yes...slightly insane lab mix named Salem, with whom Maddie is fighting for dominance. I seem to remember, Viive, that very threat...um...promise...and no..no kilt. He's a Welshman, I'm afraid! (NT) -- Michelle --did I mention I'm a soccer widow/stepmom?, 21:59:46 05/04/04 Tue

Michelle and Sorcha, I am very happy that both of you have found happiness. (NT) -- Brenda, 19:24:34 05/04/04 Tue

Another one checking in - remembering, etc. -- Jennifer, 13:33:32 04/28/04 Wed
Hi all. I posted a couple pictures in the photo album under Photos Four. We're building a new house and these two pictures were taken during the demolition process - during the bitter cold winter. It's a cool place to be building, abutting a state park on the backyard side, with a huge lake to the left of the property. We have the foundation in right now, should start hammering nails this weekend (not me, but you probably guessed that). Things are fine in my neck of the woods. Spring has finally sprung, so I'm perking up. The property has piles of huge boulders which were unearthed during the digging of the foundation. Needless to say, I'm in love with each and every one of them. Most of the neighbors think I'm nuts, expecting me to be hauling them off to the landfill, but no way!!! They are going to be incorporated somehow into the landscape. My imagination is going wild with all the possibilities.

A week or so ago I was clearing out my old computer, saving files to disk so that I could trash it and plug in the new one. It was a tough thing to do. I found an old file I saved from ICQ (anyone still use that?) between Melissa and I. The thing was several months of daily conversations all rolled into one. I read for close to 3 hours straight... laughing so hard, getting sad, the whole gamut of emotions. I wish I would have saved some of those old board conversations from The Ridge. Remember the nights we'd be online practically all night, no one did any laundry because the laundry room was too far from the computer. Meals were the quickest ones we could make so as to not miss any of the conversation. It was a fun time. Remember way back, even before that of first finding LOL online and realizing that you were not alone in our addiction to J&C (by the way, I'm on a re-read binge for the gazillionth time [DIA]). Remember the 2nd meeting in Boston where we all came in and stayed over night (not the lunch meeting). How many glasses of wine did I drink? How many #$^#(&$ did Reenie smoke? How many times did you sit there and wonder... I can't believe I'm here with everyone, face to face... when all it had been was keyboard to keyboard spanning many timezones.

Anyway... just thinking back and remembering with a smile.

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(((Jennifer))), I can't tell you how many times I've thought of you and the rest of the gang, wondering how everyone was doing, wishing we kept in closer touch. I'm glad to hear things are working out for you!!!! That's great-and isn't it a nice feeling to be somewhat more settled and happy? Where are you living now? And how are the boys? What about everyone posting here and letting us know how you are all doing? Even all you lurkers and oldtimers!!!!! Jump in and say hi. (NT) -- Keira, 18:09:02 04/28/04 Wed
(((((Jennifer))))) And (((((Keira))))). Yes, it's so good to hear that life is sunnier for you, Jennifer. The house is so exciting, and WE all know you're not nuts with all those rocks!!! Thanks for the wonderful reminder of such sweet times. And I still think of Boston and smile. It was so wonderful to really HUG people. Life does go on, and we all got really busy, but I miss everyone so. Quick update on me: Job is AWESOME, parents are still demented, kids are driving me nuts, David is too, Tirzah is getting married in Aug. to a wonderful man and they're marrying in my flower garden. (((((((ALL SW))))))) (NT) -- Betsy, laughing and crying and brewing a cuppa tea to sit and read the board with you all...*, 21:03:58 04/28/04 Wed
Yeah, what happened? It was the most exciting time of my life, and I want to thank you again, Jennifer, for inviting JS to the board!!! We will go to LA in July, and our life has changed so much because of this board exists!!! Is there a chance we all can have back what we had? Can we fill up this board with life again? Just wondering. Good luck with your house project! May you have more luck with yours than we had with ours, haha. (NT) -- Martina, 04:05:52 04/29/04 Thu
Marvellous to hear from you, Jennifer! I remember those times on the Ridge and its predecessors, though there's one time I try to forget. We were all neophytes at this internet stuff, and learned together. I'd better stop because I have many pressing things to do over the next four days, but it sure was wonderful hearing from you and reminiscing just a little. (NT) -- Ron, 07:31:02 04/29/04 Thu

And thanks for the pics! The place looks ideal! (NT) -- Ron, 07:33:34 04/29/04 Thu

woaw Jennifer, it's so nice to read from you again, I'm not coming that often but I do think so many times of all the good time I spent here with everyone, I miss you guys. Jenn so what's up with you ? I'd love to know (NT) -- Isabelle, 21:11:01 04/29/04 Thu
I was just thinking about you...and about the days on the Ridge...realized I needed to do some MAJOR catching up (NT) -- Michelle, 19:15:04 05/02/04 Sun
((((((((((((((Jennifer))))))))))))))) I am SOOO happy for you! what a beautiful location too! (NT) -- with much love, Viive, 14:56:04 05/04/04 Tue
Jennifer, the site of your new home looks beautiful and peaceful. Best wishes for smooth and easy construction! (NT) -- Brenda, 19:26:32 05/04/04 Tue

Hi Everyone ! -- Isabelle, 15:08:32 04/21/04 Wed
My Goodness it's been so long since I came here last! Hi Melissa, I just saw your name, good to see you... I wish I could come more often but I honestly don't know where I could squizz that time from... The pictures are interesting but I don't know what to say! I've seen this effect often when using a digital camera. But who knows! For each life arriving there is one going, may be those were the spirits hovering above the future newborns?
I'm just back from France, a very quick 4 day trip to be with my family for my grand-mother's funeral. She died on good friday and I received the message when I came back that very same day from my husband's aunt funeral... So let me tell you that 2 funerals in 4 days is a lot for me! I do want to tell you that when I went to bed the night before I had a vivid picture of my grand-mother smiling at me, because my DH's aunt had died I thought that is why I had thought of my grand-mother who was getting older, but apparently she died around the time I envisioned her. It wasn't her spirit or a vision, but clearly in my mind, so I do think she came to say good-bye.I'm ok with her death I do think it is a blessing since she had lost the use of her legs and arms and her mind was wandering off once in a while but it is true that we are going to miss her. Although we did have a good laugh after the funeral once the family got back home, I actually had not laugh that much in a long time, so it was good remembering all the souvenirs with cousins I had not seen in ages. Knowing how my grand-mother was never the last for a good laugh I'm sure she appreciated. Now I have a question, I'm not sure if anyone has a suggestion. I've taken the whole thing really well, but since I came back a couple of days ago, I barely sleep and all I dream about is coffins and funerals. It's not scary and I don't sense it as a premonition of something bad that will happen, I'm certain of this, before my grand-mother and aunt died 2 weeks ago, I had my share of dreams of all the dead people I've known so I see the difference. But I'm wondering if the fact that I had been lucky enough to be sheltered from death all those years, it's how my subconscious is dealing with it ? It's not scarry but disturbing to wake up after one of those dreams and fall asleep again to see an other coffin...and doing so a few times a night. Is there anything I can do to stop it ? I'm pretty exhausted... It's not all bad I also had a dream of some mmpphing with Tom Cruise (well would have prefered Hugh Jackman but hey, I take Tom cruise anytime over some viewing of a coffin!

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Isabelle, I suggest you concentrate on your two girls and Jim and think of all they have meant to you. Two funerals in such a short time can be traumatic. Think now of the living and rejoice in them. (NT) -- Ron, 07:20:42 04/23/04 Fri
A psychologist described it to me once as "ruminating." Just like a cow chewing on its cud. Something very affecting happens and we can't get it out of our mind right away, even when we try to put it off it just keeps chewing and chewing in the background. Really, the only cure for it is time. Can you fit an out of the ordinary thing into your schedule to take your mind down a different path, a night at the movies or a day in another town, just doodling around, anything to break the pattern? After the two recent deaths in our family my husband and I arranged a day away from home each time just to do anything we wanted to do, have fun and get away. (NT) -- beccabee, 18:06:39 04/23/04 Fri
Thank You Ron and Beccabee, it's getting just a little better, but I'm not totally there yet! I do believe that it is some kind of ruminating. It is also something that put me back in touch with our mortality and worries of suddenly going and leaving the kids alone. Well it doesn't help that since I moved here I don't really have anybody to talk to and since I came back I haven't seen my husband who is still away. So not a soul to talk to and trying to deal with all this, a few health problems on top of it and I guess even I, am not that strong... But thank you both for your input... (NT) -- Isabelle, 22:03:11 04/23/04 Fri
(((((Isabelle))))) First I am so sorry for your loss. I am glad you feel "ok" with the passing of loved ones as it helps to know that they are more comfortable and happy passing over. About your dreams: this may sound a little off the wall, but I have been reading up on the healing properties of certain herbs and different gemstones and amethyst is one that helps quiet the mind and gives more restful sleep. I have an amethyst night light that I turn on each night. It's worth a try, but not sure how you feel about it. Hope the dreams stop soon. (With the exception of hmmmphing with Tom Cruise, of course!) (NT) -- Bandruidh, 23:25:03 04/23/04 Fri

Hi Bandruidh, thank you for the advice, it's worth a try, I do have an ametysth ring, it's an unusual one as it is a light pink one but I might leave it on my night stand. The dreams have ceased, I still wake up though but this is normal for me, it happens all the time. I really think that I was taking it all in this past week as when it happens it goes too fast to actually realize it. It's just that not having my husband around and stepping right back into the routine of kids and school and all was a little tough for me, I felt a little depression coming. I have a book of "Universal prayers" prayers for all situations, and there is one for 'depression, fears and nightmares' and I have to admit the dreams have stopped around the same time I started the prayers. As for Tom Cruise it wasn't bad, but I'm looking forward to a night with Hugh Jackman "VBG" Thank you to the three of you for your response and your input. (NT) -- Isabelle, 08:44:57 04/24/04 Sat

Isabelle, if you can figure out how I can get a night with Robbie Coltrane let me know. (NT) -- beccabee, 10:26:51 04/24/04 Sat

LOL The day I get Hugh Jackman in my bed, I'll pass the formula around... of course I'll keep HJ ... he is mine "VBG" (NT) -- Isabelle, 11:59:31 04/24/04 Sat

((((Isabelle))))) I agree with beccabee that this is a sort of ruminating, but if you are getting tired and worn out, it's time to take a night off and sleep soundly. Amethyst is good. So is lavender oil, a drop or two on your pillow or on a cotton ball near your head. Also, it might help for you to say a prayer for peace and then surround your bed with a ring of white light or blue light and think of yourself snuggly safe in the middle. I personally find comfort in the ritual of reading something that feeds my soul, prayerful thought, and then this circle of light that pulsates with the Energy of Love. Hope all is well. Would you like a phone number or two to call? I wish I were closer so we could go have a cup of tea and just "be". (NT) -- Betsy, 14:59:12 04/24/04 Sat
Isabelle, I think Bach-flowers would do wonders in that case! (NT) -- Martina, 03:59:18 04/29/04 Thu

I Need Help from the Great Lallynetwork! (I am double posting this on Spirit World and in the -- beccabee, 16:55:55 03/10/04 Wed
My father, age 81, has written a book on prayer, a compilation of writing from over sixty years of thought and study that literally began when he was a kid in high school. I illustrated it for him and edited it a bit, which felt kind of funny as I only have a B.S. to his exalted Ph.D. Now he is at the "let's get this published" stage and so far has been turned down by two publishers who have given him glowing reviews but suggest that the book won't sell unless he dumbs it down. My editing (as well as critiques from friends and colleagues) has already taken it from the post-doc level down to the high school grad level. So far, several churches have expressed interest in using the book for teaching as it is, without any "dumbing." The New American Standard Bible people have one of our draft copies we had bound by Staples that they keep on a coffee table in their office. We sent it to them because we had to get permission above and beyond what they allow for quotations and they liked the book so much they kept it. The book has merit, but we are running into the mentality that says a publication must read like the USA Today to sell these days. What is that, at the 9th or 7th grade level now? So, I really want to ask you Lallyfolks, because I love my father and want to see him published very much - - - does anyone out there have a suggestion for a publisher? A publisher not afraid of words of more than one syllable?

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Hey, I have an agent, and she might be interested in working with the text. Currently she is not taking new submissions, but she might make an exception for me. :) Email me and we'll knock heads on this. (NT) -- Ann, 11:28:09 03/11/04 Thu
beccabee, I know this is really late, but how did you get on with having your dad's book published? It sounds intriguing and like something I would enjoy. Let us know when it is available :-) (NT) -- Kylie McA, 23:04:09 04/25/04 Sun

Something strange this way comes... -- Bandruidh, 23:33:26 03/27/04 Sat
Something strange came up and I wanted to run it past some LOLers to see if they have ever experienced this. I took some digital photos at my sister-in-law's baby shower and when I downloaded and printed them out I could see several Orbs in the photos. Out of 30 pictures taken, seven of the photos had very visible Orbs in them. Three photos of Lisa (my DSIL) had them around her. Three photos of the entire room had them in them (we rented a conference room because of the number of people who came) and Orbs were in a photo of my brother, SIL and 4 yr old nephew. Lisa is expecting twins due by c-section on April 16. There were two other pregnant ladies in attendance. I know there is a controversy over whether Orbs are spiritual energy or false readings of these, but I thought it was strange that so many showed up in different areas of the room. I haven't mentioned this to Lisa, though she does have copies of the photos. I am interested in what some of you think of this phenomenon. I should mention that neither my DB or DSIL are particularly spiritual or open to outworldly events.

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I'm sorry, but I have to ask what Orbs exactly means. My dictionary comes up with "objects in the sky".*g* How does it look like? Can you post one of this pics? I never had that happen to me but I heard of it of course, and would like to see it. Light can do a lot to a photo, but I once saw one in a book that actually showed the face of someone! Now there was no doubt it was not from this world.*g* (NT) -- Martina, 04:25:28 03/29/04 Mon

Martina, I think that it is determined that Orbs are Orbs when tricks of light can't possibly be causing them to appear where they are in the print. They are roughly globular fogs of light in odd places in the picture, sometimes as you say with defined features. Gives me a bit of a shiver that there were so many in this batch of photographs. I've never heard anything bad coming of an Orb, maybe they were just benevolent and curious? I would be more than interested to hear from others. (NT) -- beccabee, 12:54:57 03/29/04 Mon

I've read a few opinions of Orbs on the net. Some say that all spirits (including humans) put out energy fields and that can sometimes be captured on film. Some say it's just dust motes near the lens. Normally I wouldn't have thought much about Orbs if there weren't so many photos with them in it. In one of my SIL there are three next to her in three different sizes. I will try to post that picture if I can. In the meantime here is a link that kind of explains the differences in Orbs, ghosts and spirits.Click here (NT) -- Bandruidh, 20:30:43 03/29/04 Mon

Well, this is the best I can do photo-wise. I've linked two of the pics, but they aren't very big so I don't know how well you can see the Orbs. Look to the right of Lisa's head and you may make out the three Orbs. In the second photo there is a very clear, round one to the left of the blue gift bag on the left side of the table. Let me know what you think. I'm sorry, but I couldn't get them any larger. Photo 1 and Photo 2 (NT) -- Bandruidh, 21:13:41 03/29/04 Mon

Thanks for the pics! Hm... very interesting. The Orbs are not always at the same spot, so I doubt it's something on the lens. The one pretty round one could be a light reflection though. But from where? There is no light source in behind. Are those only digital or do you have negatives? It should show on the negative if it has a natural cause. Although I guess that's one of those things we can't explain. Too bad. :( (NT) -- Martina, 05:49:18 03/30/04 Tue

Bandruidh, would it be a good idea to invite the Social Board to visit? This question really deserves some hearty discussion. (NT) -- beccabee, 21:15:35 03/30/04 Tue

Good idea beccabee, I will post a message on the SB with a link and see if anyone will ad their opinions. I really wish the photos were larger. I have a side show that shows the pics full screen and they are really visible. (NT) -- Bandruidh, 12:50:48 03/31/04 Wed

once on a trip when the kids were little we took a tour of the jack daniels distillery in tennessee. they have a spring there, the original one they used when they first started making that elixir of life, and we took pics (film, not digital) of the kids standing in it. a few, not all, came back with an orb (white globe) shining from inside the spring, which was in a small cavelike structure. very interesting. i thought perhaps it was a light hanging from the ceiling of the cave, but it didn't show up on all the pics. have no clue what it was, but it was intriguing. (NT) -- annieo, 22:47:09 03/31/04 Wed
I've seen my digital camera do this before. I couldn't really see the orb in your first pic, but I could in the second. My guess would be that it's a light reflection coming off of the wrapping or balloons or something. Rain drops and snow flakes look really cool in digital pictures too. Just my 2 cents worth. (NT) -- Roberta, 15:23:23 04/01/04 Thu
Hey everyone! Well, I see much more than just an orb or a blob .... take a closer look at the photo next to Lisa's head. Once your eye focuses on the larger orb image, slowly lower your line of vision and look at the whole image as a whole. Meaing the orb part of it, The larger then look lower. (NT) -- melissa, 10:35:07 04/03/04 Sat

A skeleton pops out really clearly. Is that what you see, Melissa? (NT) -- beccabee, 13:44:13 04/03/04 Sat

Hi .. yes it is! Good, so it's not just me. On a funny note ... I was looking at the photo and my middle daughter Emily asked me what I was looking at. This coming from the girl that gets freaked out by the opening photo on the page (the two spirits infront of the hedges) anyway, I said just look and tell me what you see .... she looks, then gasps ... and I said, ohhh you see it? Too which she replies ... oh my gosh that baby outfit is floating in midair! Hahahaha ... by the way, she's a blonde! (But she did see the other image but only after I pointed it out .. after laughing my ass off first to her first response!) (NT) -- melissa, 14:04:28 04/03/04 Sat
Hi .. yes it is! Good, so it's not just me. On a funny note ... I was looking at the photo and my middle daughter Emily asked me what I was looking at. This coming from the girl that gets freaked out by the opening photo on the page (the two spirits infront of the hedges) anyway, I said just look and tell me what you see .... she looks, then gasps ... and I said, ohhh you see it? Too which she replies ... oh my gosh that baby outfit is floating in midair! Hahahaha ... by the way, she's a blonde! (But she did see the other image but only after I pointed it out .. after laughing my ass off first to her first response!) (NT) -- melissa, 14:05:36 04/03/04 Sat

Oh, my gosh, Melissa, I was focusing so much on the separate Orbs that I missed that transformation of the skeleton head! Thanks for pointing it out. I haven't said anything to Lisa about it - didn't want to freak her out or scare her into early labor! Though the doc plans to take the twins by April 16 unless the full moon this week starts the process for her instead. Maybe afterwards I will tell her what the Orbs may mean. (NT) -- Bandruidh, 12:31:21 04/04/04 Sun
And that was just too cute what your daughter said about the floating baby outfit! LOL Aren't kids too funny. (NT) -- Bandruidh, 17:38:13 04/04/04 Sun

Hey Melissa!!!!! Welcome back-how are you Sweetie?? You know we miss you like crazy-think of you often. Say hi to your girls for me-even the blonde one-LOL. I didn't see anything else but the orb until you pointed it out to me-verra, verra interesting!!!!! (NT) -- Keira (glad to see Melissa back-and how is Harry?), 09:23:54 04/04/04 Sun

Good to see you posting again, Melissa! (NT) -- Ron, 08:04:21 04/07/04 Wed

Hey!!! I post as time allows, seems more and more I'm on here for shorter amounts of time. Anyway, HAPPY EASTER to all!! (NT) -- melissa, 19:02:31 04/11/04 Sun

Any hobby-writers here??? -- Martina, 09:33:44 04/07/04 Wed

Hi folks, I've created a website for unpublished authors to present their work as e-books.
I know we have some AWESOME writers on the LOL related boards. Please don't be shy, I know it's good stuff!!!

The website is still a construction, but working, and will eventually provide e-books to download for money. There are no costs for the authors, but money to make if they sell.

I know it's not all about money, it's about being published! Here's your chance!*g*

Please take a look at the site and send me your manuscripts.*g*

Url: www.team-ebook.com

There's also a forum attached, but only up for a couple of days, so pretty deserted.*g* Later on you'll find articles there too, and short stories. But I need authors for all that!!!!!

Thanks for having a look! Happy Easter!

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Your site looks great! What a neat concept. Email me about exchanging links. (NT) -- Colly-take out the NOSPAM, 12:24:17 04/08/04 Thu

Surfacing again! -- Martina, 04:26:52 02/24/04 Tue
Hi folks!
Sorry for being absent for so long, but there is A LOT going on in my life. As many of you already know after having built a nice house in Germany Creation came up with an offer we just couldn�t let pass by. It screws up ALL our plans though. Maybe we should just give up planning for good, haha.
JS has been offered the coolest job of all in Los Angeles! The company he works for here has a branch over there and they want him so much, that we were totally overwhelmed. The visa procedure is running right now.
As wonderful as it is there is still the small fact that we have a house here. The German market is totally down right now, and renting it doesn�t make enough to pay the loan. We can�t finance a place in two countries. So I guess what I am trying to say is asking for your strong prayers to resolve that problem fast. We need a buyer to show up! Thanks so much!

We just came back from a week in LA, and I got to see the American way of life. Wow, I am addicted now!*lol* I can�t wait to live there. Planned is for JS to be there in May, and my dd and I in July, after she finished school here. Things are very different over there, but we are sure we will enjoy it.

Good vibes to make everything go smooth are appreciated. Thanks friends!!!

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Best of Luck and plenty of bright blessings being sent your way. I am sure things will work out even though it seems not so at the moment. Hang in there. And a hearty Welcome to the US! Let us know when you get all settled in. (NT) -- Bandruidh, 19:31:28 02/24/04 Tue
What exciting news!!! I will of course send energy and love. And a HUGE (((((((Martina))))))). I know it will work out as it should. That is just tooooo exciting!!! (NT) -- Betsy, 20:51:01 02/25/04 Wed
Hi Martina! As always, huge waves of Reiki coming your way to clear the path from any obstacles. Just tell me when it's enough Reiki *gg* - would be a pity to blow everything and everybody right into Nirvana, haha. Then I'll end up all alone here,poor me!! *VVBG* (NT) -- Ellen, 03:54:41 02/27/04 Fri
Welcome Neighbor! -- JaLaRa (Jenn), 21:22:17 04/02/04 Fri

NEED HELP WITH IDENTIFICATION -- Ann, 08:06:41 03/18/04 Thu
Hey, people,

This is the smartest, most diverse group of people I know, and seeing as I have reached a point where I don't know the answer, I am coming to you.
My DD found a pendant in the dirt alley behind our house, and I cannot figure out who the figure is supposed to represent. The figure looks to me like a snake goddess with wings. I know it is not some simple peice of costume jewelry for the fact that the image has breasts, small but they're there, which tells me this is a purposeful representation of some goddess.

Does anyone have any ideas?? Please help, if you do.

Thanks so much!
A

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Hmmm...Ann is it possible to scan this pendant and post a pic for us? (NT) -- Keira, 10:14:35 03/18/04 Thu

Keira, I suppose I could have my DH try, I'm not familiar with that "technical" stuff. :) (NT) -- Ann, 14:48:48 03/18/04 Thu

That's what I was going to ask, too, Keira. If not, Ann, I will give you a few links to possible sites that might have pics of different Goddesses. Hmmm....isn't it interesting that the pendant came to your daughter??? (NT) -- Betsy, 20:22:18 03/18/04 Thu
Wow, that's great, Ann. I'm interested too in the meaning of this pendant. Not sure if I can be much help, but will surf a bit and see. Keep us posted. (NT) -- Bandruidh, 09:51:59 03/19/04 Fri
Did some random Googling, and came up with this possibility: Click Here for Buto (NT) -- Jamie's Mom, 21:07:10 03/20/04 Sat

Very interesting site, Jamie's Mum. Lots of good Egyptian links too. (NT) -- Keira, 21:49:37 03/20/04 Sat

Ann, did you ever make any headway with this? I'm interested in hearing what you found out. (NT) -- Betsy, 06:10:17 03/29/04 Mon

Diet pop drinker - please read this! -- Martina, 05:09:06 03/12/04 Fri
Something interesting inside the first reply. I have known that for quite some years now and don't buy anything with artificial sweeteners. But I know of a lot of people that do, so I thought some of you may find this interesting to know.

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Inside please>>> -- Martina, 05:10:10 03/12/04 Fri
Maybe so , maybe no. I find emails of this type to be mostly rumors with overly exaggerated points and often check them out first. If you want more info on this subject, check it out here...http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blasp.htm (NT) -- JeanClaire*, 07:24:40 03/12/04 Fri

This one is true though. I have friends working in the pharmacy and they say the same things. (NT) -- Martina, 09:34:51 03/12/04 Fri

News! News! -- Betsy, 18:55:41 03/09/04 Tue
I got a phone call this afternoon.

"Betsy, Dr. Bopp (the MD who was part of the team who did my third interview) said the entire team was BLOWN AWAY with your interview. We would like to offer you a job as a Hospice Nurse." I AM SOOOOOO HAPPY!!!!!
Now, all I need to do is negotiate money. And learn the miles of paper work. And buy some new casual/professional clothes. And pass the physical. And go through orientation. And get a CD player that will work in my new (well, very old, but cheap and in fairly good shape and good on gas) car. And and and.....

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Hoooooooooooraaaaaaaaaaaay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (NT) -- beccabee, 19:50:53 03/09/04 Tue
HIP, HIP HORAY! WAY TO GO, BETSY!! You are going to be so good at this job, because of your caring and unselfish manner. I am so happy for you! (NT) -- Bandruidh, 21:33:35 03/09/04 Tue
OOHHH! Congratulations Betsy!!! I am SO happy for you! You will be a wonderful addition to the hospice staff. (NT) -- Brenda, 01:25:46 03/10/04 Wed
Splendid news, Betsy! Wish I were there to say it in person! Isn't it exciting, to change roads in life? (NT) -- Ron, 08:07:31 03/10/04 Wed
BETSY!!!!!!! That is wonderful! (NT) -- JeanClaire*, 12:33:08 03/10/04 Wed
WoooooHooooBetsy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know I'm coming to the party late but the feeling is the same!!! Congratulations, my friend. I never doubted that they would be as impressed as hell with you-you are that kind of person and I know this is the perfect job for you. You are soo intuned with the Spirit World that you cannot but help people on their journeys. There are some lucky patients out there who are going to benefit so much from your expertise and kind knowledge, as well as your kindness and caring. Way to go, girlfriend, I'm so proud of you. (NT) -- Keira, 13:30:06 03/10/04 Wed
I'm even later, but Keira said it all just perfectly! CONGRATS!!!!!!!!!!!! (NT) -- Martina, 07:02:09 03/11/04 Thu

Umm...Betsy...Calling Betsy..... -- Keira, 12:34:55 03/07/04 Sun
Have you heard any news yet? I've been waiting anxiously. Let us know when you hear.

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I'm still sitting here waiting, Keira. I'm trying not to be impatient. They need to do back ground checks, check for illegal activity (I sure hope they don't go TOOOO far back, like to the 60's!!!!!), and check references. It all takes time. BOO HOO HOO. I'm still being patient. I owe you a phone call. (NT) -- Betsy, 23:08:40 03/07/04 Sun

They do all that??? My, is it ever difficult to get a job over there! I am so glad you qualified!!!!!!!! Hurray!!!!!!!! (NT) -- Martina, 06:57:17 03/11/04 Thu

What happened? Where are all the messages? -- Ron, 06:25:06 03/09/04 Tue
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I feel dumb, but, honestly, they weren't here when I checked in! (NT) -- Ron, 06:26:19 03/09/04 Tue

Thay weren't Ron. Maybe they disapperared sometime yesterday afternoon while Voy was down. Maybe Christine was able to recreate or something but you are definitely not dumb. I was about to send out a group email to everyone to start talking and fill up the empty board....which we should do anyway. Ok, everyone start talking!! (NT) -- JeanClaire*, 09:23:37 03/09/04 Tue

Talk, talk. Nice weather we're having. Or are we? Do you come here often? Hmmm. What other lines can I use? Come with me to the Casbah.... Okay, someone else get serious! (NT) -- Ron, 09:52:16 03/09/04 Tue

It's ok, Ron. I thought it was something I had done wrong to my computer. Hahahahaha. And I kept checking back, each time more and more sure I had REALLY screwed something up, Big Time. Glad it wasn't ME, but the boards. (NT) -- Betsy, 18:44:33 03/09/04 Tue

Just checking in. I must have missed the disappearing posts. All seems right now. Just wanted to check in before leaving for my second job. Went to the eye doc today and need new specs. The price is horrendous! I realize the need for yearly eye exams, but the cost of glasses has really risen in our area. $450 buckeroos! Yea, I have astigmatism, and am blind as a bat without glasses AND am now in bifocals. Gheesh, I really don't feel as old as these new specs are making me feel. (sigh) Ok, end of rant. How is everyone else? (NT) -- Bandruidh, squinting at monitor and waving..., 13:24:07 03/09/04 Tue

Well, B, I'm sitting here as blind and frustrated with bifocals as you are!!! Hahahahaha..the price we pay for all the wisdom we have amassed with our years of experience must be that our bodies seem to be getting the last laugh. Oh well...I'll take the wisom and experience anyday. (NT) -- Betsy the Blind and Feeble, 18:32:48 03/09/04 Tue

*snicker* I'm with you, Betsy, I'll take the wisdom and experience as well. One thing about it, if I don't want to see something in particular I can just take off my glasses, right! *g* (NT) -- Bandruidh, 21:30:19 03/09/04 Tue

Job stuff -- Betsy, 21:17:21 02/25/04 Wed
I had two interviews today, each longer than two hours, for the Hospice nurse position. The head of the program actually called me on the phone and asked me to PLEASE have an interview, and when I met her, she said "I've heard so much about you from so many people..." It was a bit scarey! But both interviews went well and I do feel that I am at least a good candidate and I will be considered. I will have to take a pay cut (and you all know just how weak our finances are) but life is more than just about money, eh?
I was actually asked about my spirituality! Not what it is, but if I had a solid basis of spirit and how I bring it to my nursing!!! I was awed. I do think this job is the right one for me. It will be a great combination of who I am as a nurse, woman, and spirit-filled person. And if I don't get the job, at least I had the courage to go through the process and was willing to grow.

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I like the way you are looking at it! If it doesn't work out you don't lose anything, but at least you tried. Too bad about the money reduction, but you never know where this leads you to! If it is the right thing for you, everything else will fall in place. Congrats for the process so far! Wishing you much luck!!! (NT) -- Martina, 03:49:40 02/27/04 Fri

It's funny, but I wonder if it isn't a blessing that I've been without a paycheck for so many weeks. It won't seem like such an impact when I get one that is a bit smaller than it used to be. You're right, Martina....it will all work out as it should, and I know it. (NT) -- Betsy, 18:24:21 02/29/04 Sun

Hi Betsy *waving* that's wonderful news!! Congratulations!! Me, too, I've got the work I deeply love, and I think it's ok if, for a beginning, you don't get the money you are worth. But I'm convinced that we must work on the self-worth topic to finally get what we deserve. I'm with you in this life lesson, so let's go!! Good luck!! (NT) -- Ellen, 03:51:34 02/27/04 Fri

Ellen!!!!! How wonderful to see you!!!! And I agree. We ARE given the work we need. I guess that might be why I feel so unstressed about this job. If I should have it, I'll get it; if it isn't my time, it won't happen. Whichever, I will be fine. I still think about the line in the old poem Desiderata."Dispite what I might think, the Universe is unfolding as it should." (NT) -- Betsy, 18:31:01 02/29/04 Sun

Betsy, I think this is great news and I hope you get what truly makes you happy. From working with nurses for nearly 10 years I am always in awe of their abilities and love of their work. Especially Hospice nurses - they have the biggest hearts of all. I know what you mean about money. I have a part time job with an engineering company that I hate, but it pays pretty well and I just started another part time job as a fitness instructor for the Curves Fitness Centers that I love, but it doesn't pay so well. So, we do what we can, and the rest will fall into place. Good luck and keep us up on when you get the job! (NT) -- Bandruidh, 09:51:55 02/28/04 Sat

I've known all my life that I was destined to be a nurse. Actually, I think I have been in the healing business for many many centuries. I had a reading done the other day, and the woman told me some really interesting things. I had never met her before, but she cued into my profession (and my calling) right away. She told me that I have had several violent deaths and that is part of the reason I feel called to work with people making the transition between this existance and the next. She said all kinds of neat stuff, but I thought this was pretty interesting. And you are a Curves instructor??? I've been thinking of joining!!! You go, Girl!!!! We've got to feed our souls with our work, not just our pocketbooks. (NT) -- Betsy, 18:41:27 02/29/04 Sun

It's funny you mention having a reading done and were told about how you were called to this profession because of events in past lives. I have had two separate readings by two different psychics and both told me I had been a Native American female healer in a past life. While I have worked in the medical field in this life as a support person I have not pursued a degree in it. Perhaps being a Curves instructor is my way of helping to heal people by teaching them to take better care of themselves through fitness and healthy eating choices. By all means check our your local Curves, Betsy. Since I started Oct 28 I have lost nearly 20 pounds and 14 inches. I put on my size 10 jeans the other day and had room to spare. It works and it's fun! (Geesh, do I sound like a commercial or what?!) *g* (NT) -- Bandruidh, 21:35:44 02/29/04 Sun

(((Betsy))), you know I think you are the perfect person for this position. Everything crossed for Tuesday. Call me on Thursday, or e-mail me or something. You'll be in my thoughts. BTW-love talking with you!!!! (NT) -- Keira, 19:43:58 02/28/04 Sat

Oh, Keira. (((((Keira))))) It is always such a blessing to talk to you!!! I just wish we lived in closer proximity. Or that we were wealthy (money-wise, that is..), so we could travel back and forth easily. I'll let you know what happens. (NT) -- Betsy, 16:55:12 02/29/04 Sun

I have the third interview on Tues. morning at 8:00. This one is with the team I would be working with. I know most of the people on the team. I'm excited for this! It feels good. 8:00 AM isn't my best time (I'm a night nurse, remember...hahahahahaha) but after being an at-home mom for 3 months, I think it will be ok. I've kind of gotten used to sleeping at night and being awake during the day. I'm sure I can get through the interview without yawning.... (NT) -- Betsy, 18:52:18 02/29/04 Sun
Betsy, what a wonderful surprise! I have been out of town and computer-free for days, at my parents' house, and I just read your latest posting. Hooray for you! I'm out here rootin' for ya!!!!! (NT) -- beccabee, 21:51:10 02/29/04 Sun
Thinking about you again, Betsy, late this Monday night. Love go with you tomorrow morning. Waiting with great expectations for your next report. (NT) -- beccabee, 21:37:29 03/01/04 Mon

Thanks, beccabee. Your thoughts must have been good ones and powerful, too. The interview went well and it looks at least like I am a solid candidate for the job. I don't know how long before I hear anything, but I feel good about what has happened so far. One really important piece is that I allowed myself to be willing to open to the possibilities that the Universe has to offer. It is an important step for me to take, to dare to allow change and to be willing to jump out in faith away from my area of safety and comfort. I really appreciate your support. (NT) -- Betsy, 21:36:27 03/02/04 Tue

Oh Betsy! Hope they don't keep us all in suspense too long!!!!!!! (NT) -- beccabee, 22:11:41 03/02/04 Tue

A warm Dead-of-Winter Hug to all of us!!! -- Betsy, 13:54:30 02/11/04 Wed
It seems we all are in our winter emotional hybernation state. Well....I am, at least. My life is busy with lots of running around, but I feel like I've sort of drawn within myself in a rather cocoon-like fashion. Not a bad thing, just different.
I am still out of work recouperating from my surgery. It is going well, just slowly, and besides the financial disaster of the lost income, being home with my family has been wonderful. I've gone to every basketball game my kids have played in, I've watched lots of movies with my family, I've actually COOKED DINNER like a normal mother on a regular basis!!!!! I'm still having pain in the evenings from the shoulder, but the physical therapy is going well (even if it does hurt like the dickens...)and I can see the progress I am making.
One big thing that has happened in my life is that there is a vacancy in my dream job. Always I have admired and emulated the hospice nurses. There are seldom vacancies in the program, but there has been a job advertised in our local paper. I really wasn't ready to leave my job, which I love, but everything around me is telling me that I need to apply for this. Two of the nurses who work for the local hospice program even called me and said they had heard I was interested and encouraged me to apply. It is just terrifying to think of all the changes it would mean to me, but I just keep thinking that this is a huge opportunity and I really need to try. It would be a great chance to incorporate my nursing skills, my love of people, and my spirituality. BUT IT IS SO SCAREY!!!!!!!
SOOOOOO, that's what's up with me. What's going on with the rest of you?????

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If this is your dream job, Betsy, follow your dream and go for it. I am glad to hear you are healing well...slow and steady wins the race, right? Good to hear from you. (((Betsy))) (NT) -- Brenda, 19:08:13 02/11/04 Wed
Hospice nurses are among the most blessed of the blessed. It has been my honor to meet several, and to tour a hospice facility. If you have the spiritual strength and the desire to do the work then you are meant to do it. Best of luck to you in your endeavors. (NT) -- beccabee, 00:39:21 02/12/04 Thu
Absolutely. Follow the dream! (NT) -- Ron, 08:17:14 02/12/04 Thu
You are a hospice "needers" Dream! (NT) -- Melissa, 07:09:02 02/13/04 Fri
(((Betsy)))), get your A$$ in gear and fill out that application immediately. We have talked about this before. It is scary, any change from the familiar is scary but it's those changes that allow us to grow. I know, and you know, (along with everyone else here, :-) } that you will make an awsome hospice nurse. Reach for the stars, Betsy. They are yours for the taking. (NT) -- Keira, 09:33:33 02/13/04 Fri

I started the application today. The skills check list is daunting, but I'm just taking it one step at a time. (((((Keira))))) (NT) -- Betsy, 18:04:14 02/14/04 Sat

Thanks for the encouragement. I have decided to go ahead and start the process of applying. It really IS my dream, and if I allow my fears to stand in the way, I'll never face any change. I really DO love working with patients and families who are struggling with the transition of entering into the next chapter. I love the challenge of finding solutions to pain and suffering, and each time I have the honor of being with a patient as they are taken onward, I am humbled, touched, and surrounded by love. AND, they have restructured the job so I can apply for part time and still work part time at the hospital until I am ready for a complete change! How great is THAT!!!!!! (NT) -- Betsy, 18:21:45 02/14/04 Sat
Hi Betsey: I will be away for a couple of weeks, visiting my own "oldsters." I will be thinking about you a lot. Many (((((((((((((((())))))))))))))))))) to you. I am so glad you decided to go forward! (NT) -- beccabee, 18:34:26 02/16/04 Mon
Hi Betsy. Scary is not so bad, I am scared by huge changes too. It's normal. Take whatever Creation offers and have faith! Everything will work out fine if you stay in the flow of life. I am trying to do that myself right now. It's not easy, but we can make it!!! (NT) -- Martina, 04:29:18 02/24/04 Tue

Just Curious -- Veronica, 21:00:34 02/12/04 Thu
Have you ever met someone that you had an immediate connection with that you cannot explain? I've recently met a friend, that I instantly had an emotional connection with. I felt that I not only knew her somehow but that I could tell her anything, totally open myself up to her.
I have never had this happen, this deep, emotional connection - and it's a little unnerving for both of us. Since we are both happily married, our husbands are even looking at us strangely!
So have any of you ever had this happen? Thanks for the input!

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Not a deep emotional connection, maybe, but definitely a very accepting, friendly one, with all the Hosers I've met over the past four years. The fact that we have all read the same books and enjoyed them shows that we share many characteristics. It happened again on January 31, as it did last fall in Inverness, and New Hampshire. But, I wish I had experienced the deeper connection, which you describe. (NT) -- Ron, 08:53:07 02/13/04 Fri

Thanks for replying Ron! I lurk over at the 'Broch, and I can see that there have been many "hosed" connections made! What I am referring to is on a deeper level, just wish I had words to describe it. But it is a gift, and I am very grateful for it! Wish all of you could have the same experience. (NT) -- Veronica, 18:36:58 02/13/04 Fri

Hi Veronica. I think I know what you are talking about, and yes, it has happened to me. A few times, in fact. Personally, I don't believe in coincidences. One of the strongest times it happened to me was several years ago. We eventually had a remarkable experience together and both of us became aware that we had been related (usually mother-daughter, but also sister-sister) many times in our past. Hope this doesn't sound too "out-there" to you, but that was our experience. (NT) -- Betsy, 17:57:18 02/14/04 Sat
Hi Veronica - yes, I know exactly what you are saying. I have known my best friend for 20 years and we have shared one heart all that time. We have have many wonderful times together from traveling to playing in mountain streams to pouring our hearts out. All while our DH's look at us in wonder. We have also shared tragic times, family deaths, wayward children, etc. And yet we are so different in our temperment. I am more outgoing and amazed at small wonderments, while she is more quiet and reserved, but always willing to step into adventure. If anyone is lucky enough to find a "soulmate" other than their lover/spouse, they are truly double blessed. Debbie has enriched my life, because no matter what is going on I can always talk to her and she will always listen. And I return the favor. Unconditional love and respect for each other. I agree with Betsy in that this person you have found could have been with you in past lives. I am so happy you have found her again. (NT) -- Bandruidh, 12:53:20 02/15/04 Sun

Yes Betsy and Bandruidh! All of what you said made so much sense to me...you are not way out there, as I have had instances where I have felt that I have known someone before. Although this experience is so much more, it is the same thing....and Bandruidh, you said it nicely with your last statement. I am very happy that I have found her again! Thank you all, it helps to know there are others who think the same. (NT) -- Veronica, 22:20:25 02/16/04 Mon

Sharing-and Thanking the Angels -- Keira, 23:10:19 01/29/04 Thu
I thought I'd drop in and share with you a story from work. I really am sooo blessed in my work. I am given the opportunity to meet and talk with so many beautiful, wonderful souls.
I looked after a woman the other day who had a rather extensive form of cancer. She came into hospital for pain control and some fluids. This poor dear lady has already gone through soo much and her body is just not holding up any more. I needed to start an IV on her and due to her condition, she had absolutely no veins left to start a suitable line. (Having a port was a whole different issue and was not an option on this day-longer part of the story.) On top of the fact that she had no veins, she was also very scared of having the needle, almost to the point of tears. I looked and while I couldn't really see anything, I decided to take a chance on an area where there is sometimes a vein hidden. I said a prayer to the angels to help me with this one and, lo and behold, that IV slipped into place like butter. I was able to secure the IV and get all her bloodwork with one poke. The woman was soo grateful and I was able to share with her that the angels put that one into place-not I!!!!!
During her stay with us, I was able to talk to her about her life a bit. She was not a soft soul on the outside and she'd had a hard life, lived through a brutal assault and she was a bit rough around the edges, so to speak. But this woman had soo much strength in her, so much love and concern for her children. She openly talked about someone helping her youngest child cope with her possible death. She had so much love in her heart. I felt just so blessed to have been given the opportunity to meet and get to know this woman. When she left the emerg department, she thanked me for taking such good care of her, but I told her I was the lucky one in having the chance to meet her.

I know that all of you here know that we don't accomplish everything on our own, and that the angels do indeed help us. We are also given the opportunity to meet certain souls and we have to make sure not to let that opportunity slip by us. You know, our department is made up of all kinds of personalities and I know there was a reason I was in that particular area on Tuesday. There are a couple of other nurses who just wouldn't have clued into this woman, would have made some unfair judgements and the opportunity to meet someone like her would have passed them right by. I think there was a reason that I met her, now I get to figure out what that reason was, *VBG*, and that's the fun part of this journey!!!

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I think you are right Keira. There is a reason we are in certan places at certain times. I am also just as certain that you enriched her life and made a lasting impression on her just as she made one on yours. I just wish all nurses could intuitively treat patients with the same honest caring that you do. Come inside for a story of a student who had a lasting effect on me>>> -- Brenda, 14:13:32 01/30/04 Fri
This is why I lurk here. I learn something new, I read an inspirational quote, and from this message I am reminded of how wonderful people are and can be. You rock Keira! (((Hugs))) and thanks to all the members here-you are such good people. (NT) -- Michelle, 14:20:26 01/30/04 Fri
(((((Keira)))))) I am always amazed at the patients who affect me the most. It's never the ones you THINK will. And how wonderful for you both that it was you there that day. A nurse who knows and accepts the help of Angels to do your work!!! Glad you were there, for both of you. (NT) -- Betsy, 14:47:23 02/02/04 Mon
Hi Keira, yes I too think that there is a reason to be at certain places at certain times. And I think your reason to be exactly where you've been when you helped that lady was just that. Be there to help and dont hurt her, encourage her, talk to her. And if you think this is not enough - think again :-). That is a whole lot more than most people do. (NT) -- Andrea, 03:05:47 02/03/04 Tue
Keira, What a beautiful story. I'm so much more than sure that so many times people leave the hospital on any given day, with a bit of thanks that their is somebody like you working there. Angels come in all forms you know! (NT) -- Melissa ..., 19:11:51 02/03/04 Tue
Hi Keira, Hi everybody ! Gosh I rarely get to come here but when I read such a beautiful story I wonder why I don't come more often anymore... what a beautiful message Keira... (NT) -- Isabelle (still miserable in NJ), 19:07:56 02/08/04 Sun

Something to think about, with a smile*g* -- Martina, 03:01:02 01/26/04 Mon

This makes us realize the screwed up sense of perceptions we have.
One day a father of a very wealthy family took his son on a trip to the country with the firm purpose of showing his son how poor people live. They spent a couple of days and nights on the farm of what would be considered a very poor family. On their return from their trip, the father asked his son,
"How was the trip?"
"It was great, Dad."
"Did you see how poor people live?" the father asked.
"Oh yeah," said the son.
"So, tell me, what did you learn from the trip?" asked the father.
The son answered: "I saw that we have one dog and they had four. We have a pool that reaches to the middle of our garden and they have a creek that has no end. We have imported lanterns in our garden and they have the stars at night. Our patio reaches to the front yard and they have the whole horizon. We have a small piece of land to live on and they have fields that go beyond our sight. We have servants who serve us, but they serve others. We buy our food, but they grow theirs. We have walls around our property to protect us, they have friends to protect them."

The boy's father was speechless. Then his son added, "Thanks, Dad, for showing me how poor we are."

Isn't perspective a wonderful thing? Makes you wonder what would happen if we all gave thanks for everything we have, instead of worrying about what we don't have. Appreciate every single thing you have, especially your friends!

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What a zinger. I was brought up upper middle class and my mother was always so proud of all her things, and the importance she thought my father's position gave her, and jealous of all that her very wealthy sister had, to the point that she was embittered trying to keep up. I married a man that she considered below my station, both in education and class. We don't have much, we don't care about our things for the sake of their value, we love each other and are each other's best friends. My mother has even lied to our extended family, her friends and acquaintances about our jobs, incomes and home out of her shame for us. But we feel so blessed in our lives. Today's little anecdote packs a lot of punch. (NT) -- Anonymous for today......., 12:45:22 01/26/04 Mon

It's especially strange when a woman is proud of the position of the husband instead of working hard to become wealthy herself.*g* How wonderful for you that this attitude didn't rub off on you! It is not easy to live with those high standards, because one is always afraid of losing it. Do you still have close contact with your mother? I think it is to laugh about that she tells others wrong stories about you. What happens if those people found out it was a lie? Wouldn't that be even more embarrassing for her? (NT) -- Martina, 04:45:45 01/27/04 Tue

My parents are no longer allowed in my home, on Doctor's orders. When they come to visit they stay in a hotel - of course it is the only one in town that my mother considers worthy of them. As to her reputation, she was quite a joke and very sincerely disliked by my father's professional contacts. My husband, who worked in a much lower position in the same institution, but who was very well liked and who knew "where all the bodies were buried" had it on good authority that my father was left out of consideration for the top job because of her. As for family, my father's family detests her. Since my illness and because both parents are in their 80's now and the dynamic has changed, they need me to love them and I can receive love from them as I never could before, wholeheartedly and without censure. (NT) -- anonymous for today, too, 13:22:07 01/27/04 Tue

Oh that is wonderful for you! It all comes down to love anyway. Even the rich and arrogant do need love, which they can't buy. (NT) -- Martina, 12:41:46 01/28/04 Wed

Happy Birthday Colly -- Brenda, 19:39:17 01/23/04 Fri
Despite all your snow, I hope you have a wonderful birthday.

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A bit late, but here's wishes that you had a wonderful day and that there was pleanty of fun and magical times just for you!!! (NT) -- Betsy, 16:32:29 01/25/04 Sun
Thanks, I did have a good weekend. Much time spent laughing with friends and family. (NT) -- Colly, 08:52:22 01/26/04 Mon
Oh Colly, I am sorry!! I'm just back here after a busy weekend. Hope you had a marvelous day!!!!!! All the best for the coming year! (NT) -- Keira, 09:08:03 01/26/04 Mon

A New Look For Betsy!!!!!! -- Keira, 22:52:48 01/20/04 Tue
Hello Everyone,
And Happy New Year to all!!!!

First I'd like to welcome any new members who have joined and dropped in over the past several weeks. Enjoy your time with us, post when you are reading or just lurk until you feel moved to post.

Now-for some exciting news!!! As you know, our Betsy has been working so very hard at sticking to her diet and exercise plans after her surgery last February. She has done a superb job and I know that you all feel as proud of her as I do. This evening she e-mailed me a photo of herself and I've posted it in the albums for everyone to see. This picture is terrific and that light certainly still shines in her eyes!!! To see the pic, go to photos three and click on Betsy. Betsy, you look great-here's to you, girlfriend.

As some of you know, I have recently registered at university and am taking courses to finish my BScN and I thought you might be interested in the next elective I am taking. It's called "Alternative Therapies" and it's exactly that-a look at alternative health therapies that we are coming to understand and appreciate. I haven't started it yet, just in the midst of getting it organized. I rather think that it might be something worth discussing here now and again.

Hope you are all doing well-miss you!! Martina, if you do make it across to California, it is at least on the same continent as most of us and you might just need to fly a bit east here for a Gathering, *VBG*, Wouldn't that be brilliant???

Hugs
Keira

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Thanks Keira!!! You are right, I would be a lot closer to you guys!*g* Hey, that course sounds very interesting! I am looking forward to do things like that too, once I am over there! - BETSY YOU LOOK WONDERFUL!!!! I was wondering when we will get so see a picture.*g* So good to hear that are doing well!!! (NT) -- Martina, 03:37:11 01/21/04 Wed

Please forgive my horrible spelling/missing words! It's early here and I seem to still be sleeping.*lol* (NT) -- Martina, 03:39:37 01/21/04 Wed

{{{{{{{{{{BETSY}}}}}}}}}} Love your picture!!! Keira, thanks so much for posting Betsy's picture for us all to see, she does look wonderful, doesn't she. Keira, break a leg with your course work. Knowing you, you will do fine! (NT) -- JeanClaire*, 09:09:38 01/21/04 Wed
Betsy, you look gorgeous! I am so happy for you. Keira, that course sounds very interesting, you may be getting lots of questions from us non-medical types as to our ailments *g*. Martina, I'm hoping all goes well for you, JS, and your DD in your upcoming move. You know, the Surrey gathering in October is on the same coast and there are usually lots of LOLers from California who come up....hint, hint *g*. (NT) -- Brenda, 12:13:37 01/21/04 Wed
I saw the photo and had to ask myself, "Can this be the lady I met last September?" Of course! There's the same smile! Let's have a new photo each month! (NT) -- Ron, 21:45:02 01/21/04 Wed
Betsy you are truly a Goddess! You're just radiant and look at that gorgeous hair too! And that sparkle in your eyes tells me you're very happy and proud of your accomplishment and you should be! I've never had the honor of meeting you in person but I've seen some of the old pics and you look like this pretty butterfly whose come out of her cocoon. Way to go. We are so proud of you. Keira your class(es) sounds really cool. I love knowing about any new alternative therapies. They seem to work better (along with standard medical practices when absolutely needed) and things seem to heal faster at least the ones I've tried. It's refreshing to know that somebody is willing to give them a try. So many docs in the states still think they are just hocus pocus and that they hold no esteem over regular medical practices. Please keep us all posted and I think a discussion on that would be way too cool. (NT) -- Lori, 22:29:34 01/21/04 Wed
*blush* Thanks, Everyone, for the kind words. This has been a really difficult year (2003, that is...) with three major surgeries. Was it easy??? Not a chance! But was it worth it? I feel like a new woman. I have energy, stamina, drive, and determination. I feel 20 years younger. I notice that I laugh more and my general outlook is sunnier. Has it been easy??? NO NO NO, but for me, this was a great decision and so far the outcome is wonderful. (NT) -- Betsy, 21:38:58 01/23/04 Fri

I have posted this over on the social board... -- Martina, 05:21:00 01/20/04 Tue
My DH has a job offer from the German company he is currently working for in Germany. The new job is in Burbank/LA.
The guys over there are being very helpful, but I could use more information about how life really is in that part of the world. They recommend to try and find a house for rent in Santa Clarita. The website is nice, but has not many pictures of the city. What we saw so far looks cute and nice though. Of course there are some not so nice things too, like bad air, the radon level is high, crime statistics are rather low, but still higher than here in our part of Germany, earthquakes, the prices for houses and renting are shockingly high�
But we are adventurous people!*g* We want to take the chance of a good job, and being closer to Canada, where we eventually want to live, because my DH is Canadian.

The most unclear thing to me is what to do with my 16 year old DD. She will graduate here first, and then we will not have work permission, only the DH has. What can my DD do to learn the language properly and get in contact with young people? Can she attend highschool as a guest in the US?

Does anybody of the boards live in Santa Clarita? Or Burbank?

Thanks so much!!!! Any information is highly appreciated!
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So, if you happen to know someone that lives there....*g* Thanks!

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This does sound like a great opportunity, except for the high cost of housing and the problem of your daughter's education. I can't say more than that. I hope someone from the area will reply and answer you in detail. (NT) -- Ron, 07:03:47 01/20/04 Tue
Wow! What a change that would be. I don't remember anything about the Burbank area except it's where the studios were where they shot the tonight show with Johnny Carson. Not sure if you ever saw him but he's a late night talk show icon in the states. LA is so huge and there are alot of suburbs just like here in Minneapolis (only waaaaaaaaay bigger). Don't know what to say about your daughter (except that you have a 16 yr. old???? you two must look like sisters cuz you don't look very old to me!). I would write the Chamber of Commerce there and have them send you any and all information they can and they could probably get you a number or addy to write to in the school system there to see what your dd's options are too. Good luck! What an adventure *sigh*. I could use one about now... (NT) -- Lori, 22:26:22 01/20/04 Tue

Haha, thanks Lori! Yes, some people say my DD and I look like sisters, because we have similar hair. That's a huge compliment for me, but for her? Bwahahaha! Thanks for the tip with the chamber of c., I will do that! Great adventure, it sure is! It's just the right thing for me, because I get bored so easy and need changes. (NT) -- Martina, 03:30:41 01/21/04 Wed

Wow Martina!! Have no advice for you though being on opposite coast:) Just lots of best wishes. (NT) -- JeanClaire*, 08:55:07 01/21/04 Wed

Lovely link -- Brenda, 23:07:58 01/11/04 Sun
This link was posted by Marcie over on the Social Board. I thought it was lovely and am reposting it here. I hope you enjoy it.

Click Here

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Thanks for posting Brenda! I did get to see this yesterday and it is just wonderful. This computer is acting up lately though and haven't been able to do much like tell everyone to check out this site. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy toooooooooooooo sloooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwww!!! (NT) -- JeanClaire*, 06:51:51 01/12/04 Mon
That�s indeed wonderful, thanks! Where do they always find those lovely pictures on the net? I would love to collect them! (NT) -- Martina, 10:24:06 01/12/04 Mon

Martina, I can share some of my faery picture sites someday when this computer is not so wonky. Still not sure what is up. Only able to surf a few moments before it slows down and stops. DD has early class at school, I need to go hold revelie and get to school at 8am:0!!!!!!! (NT) -- JC*, 07:05:07 01/13/04 Tue

Oh thanks, that would be cool! Sounds like a common windows problem you have there. JS always recomments "wipe the hard disc and install new" because one hardly ever finds out why that happens. We are on Linux now and I didn�t have those problems so far. If you wanna email pics to me, use the addy under my name please. THANKS!!! (NT) -- Martina, 08:25:11 01/13/04 Tue

Inside for an addy list of my favorites>> -- JC*, 08:58:35 01/13/04 Tue

Thanks! Oh, and about the computer games - sometimes it isn't the memory causing the problems, but the gaphics card! An old one can't handle the new games and screws things up. Just something to look into. (NT) -- Martina, 13:15:45 01/13/04 Tue

Oh, I love this trailer. It is just beautiful! Thanks for posting the faerie sites as well, JC. I've added the links to my favorites. (NT) -- Bandruidh, 19:35:54 01/13/04 Tue
OMG that was breathtaking! Thank you so much for sharing it. Amy Brown is my favorite artist and to know she put most of this together is so cool! Thank you thank you thank you! (NT) -- Lori (a huuuuuuge faery fan/collector), 00:10:14 01/18/04 Sun
Boy, that was just what I needed! I'm still hovering around here with one working arm, and it's getting to be a HUGE PAIN. I won't be back to work for another 2 months, and it's beginning to wear on my nerves. I must admit, though, that I just love being home with my family full time. ANYWAY, this site is a treasure. OH, and welcome to the lurkers who have now posted!!! (NT) -- Betsy the One-armed-Wonder, 21:32:16 01/18/04 Sun

One more thing...HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY, MINGO!!!! Six is such a good year! (NT) -- Betsy, 21:33:28 01/18/04 Sun

How do I....? -- Brenda, 12:12:33 12/26/03 Fri
get my MIL to stop buying gifts for the DH and myself? My MIL has to be the best intentioned lady in the world. Every year she asks for ideas for the kids for Christmas, which I gladly give her. Nothing expensive, just a list of things that I know the kids would like that she could choose from. She also asks what we need. Now the problem.

Every year we tell her that we don't need anything and to please not spend the money on us. Of course, every year she does anyway. We have mentioned to her that, if she really wants to get us a gift, then perhaps a donation in our name to a food bank or empty stocking fund would be a wonderful use for the money she would normally spend. Part of the problem is that, the items she does buy for us, we never wear or use. Her taste is not the same as ours (not meaning to sound ungrateful, because I know she has the best of intentions, but this year she got me slippers that look like they're made out of dead cats and a set of brown plastic bowls, and she got the DH a case of Corona ((not bad)) and tools for working on a car, when he doesn't work on cars).

I hate the fact that she is spending money on us that is just wasted. She never gives us the receipts and the one time I asked for the receipts (this is not the first time I have recieved ugly slippers) she got quite offended so I just had to tell her they were the wrong size.

Again, I am trying not to sound ungrateful, because that is not the case. I just hate the fact that this money is being wasted when there are so many needy families out there. In fact, the things she gives us usually gets donated to our local shelter for battered women. At least I feel the money has not been wasted by having something sit uselessy in our cupboard.

Any one have any suggestions other than what I am already doing?

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At this point, I don't think you'll be able to get her to _stop_ giving gifts; I love the idea of your asking for her to give a donation, but evidently that's not her thing. Suppose you ask her for gift certificates? Bookstore, record store, restaurant, etc. Then, if you don't want to use them, you can donate them to a local charity when they are doing a fundraising raffle. (NT) -- Jamie's Mom, 07:19:25 12/27/03 Sat
I think you're trapped. You cannot change your MIL. She took offence when you asked for a receipt so you could change something. She certainly means well, so why not accept the fact and receive the unwanted gifts with good grace? I hope you don't have to have them on display when she visits. That would be difficult! (NT) -- Ron, 19:23:12 12/27/03 Sat

Thanks Ron and Jamie's Mom. The gift certificate suggestion fell on deaf ears. No Ron, I don't have to have them on display when she visits. She has never said anything anyway. I guess I will continue to accept the items graciously as I have always done in the past, and ease my conscience of wasted money by donating the items to people less fortunate than myself and my family. Thanks again for your thoughts. (NT) -- Brenda, 20:13:25 12/27/03 Sat

I've been thinking about this, Brenda. I read this last night and let it mull, and here is what I think. For some people, all the joy of the season is in the giving. Don't deny her that joy, even if her taste is so different from your own. Clearly, her pleasure is derived from the giving-joy and not in the knowledge that she has given something that she sees that you love. I don't think you can stop her unless you are willing to risk hurting her. Let her give, then do as you wish with the gifts. (NT) -- Betsy, 15:13:39 12/28/03 Sun

I agree, Betsy. I truly believe she loves going out and choosing things to give for gifts. As I said, I would never intentionally do anything to hurt her feelings because her heart is really in the right place. On a lighter note, our yellow lab saw the slippers she got me, and charged at them growling thinking we were introducing some foreign animal to the household. I retrieved them from him before too much dog spit got on them. (NT) -- Brenda, 20:45:43 12/28/03 Sun

ROFLMAO......that just made me laugh right out loud!!!!! (NT) -- Betsy, 20:10:31 12/29/03 Mon

Hi Brenda! Well, she asks you what she could get you, and because you don't say anything, she gives you things she prolly thinks you like or she like or whatever. Why dont you give her also a list of things you may not necessarily need, but would be nice to have? You know things you also go and get like candles. If she can get the wrong candles, tell her particularly what kind of. Or material for your soaps, oil, glycerin whatever you need. A good book you may want to have in hardcover. I can imagine, if you really think about it, you can come up with a long list :-) (NT) -- Andrea, 06:12:21 12/29/03 Mon
Andrea has a point, maybe you should just give in and give her a small list. It always helps to get soap supplies right? As for the gifts you already got....can you donate the slippers to a woman's shelter, or a hospital or somewhere that they will be used? And bowls are always useful when making soap...and if they accidentally get ruined...no big loss, right? (NT) -- Colly, 08:23:04 12/29/03 Mon

Thanks for your ideas, Andrea and Colly. She always asks for lists for the kids, but never for Doug or I. Maybe I should just give her a general gift suggestion list for all of us sometime in November. I like to know what she chooses for the kids just so that I don't give those same ideas to my parents or other relatives, but for DH and I, nobody asks for ideas. Great idea, thanks. (NT) -- Brenda, 15:04:16 12/30/03 Tue

Brenda, if this is not too late, I'd like to add on *g*. >>> I went a little long *g* -- Kylie McA, 06:14:44 01/17/04 Sat

What's New?? -- JeanClaire*, 09:03:56 01/09/04 Fri

Since everyone seems to be hibernating...
Read any good books?
Any more good movies?
Try any good food?
Any new good wishes to post?

It's my Little Guy's birthday today! Can't believe he's 6. He's doing well now after surgery and weighs one more pound than before. I have to go frost cupcakes for school and we are planning a Finding Nemo party with his friends next week.

About posting birthdays/celebrations--do we want to continue and if so are there any new people that need to be updated? Come on you lurkers, post up a storm and email me your info to add to my list!!

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MINGO! I just finished the last book in the Patrick O'Brien series which started with "Master and Commander", and I feel the same as I do after reading Diana's books. I want more! Unfortunately, Patrick passed away a while ago, and there won't be any more in that series, but he did write a lot of other books. The DVD player and I haven't worked out a mutually satisfactory arrangement yet. Two of my DVD's play fine, and the other two keep fading back and forth, as the DVD attempts to stop me taping it, which I am NOT doing! I'll get the hang of it some day! (NT) -- Ron, 15:09:58 01/09/04 Fri

Heya Ron, I've seen your posts with Sassy about Master and Commander. You know I think my Dad has seen the movie but I don't know if he's read the books. As an ol' Navy man, I bet he would love them. I'll have to check for future gift giving reference or at least tell him to check out his local library. Can't help you with the DVD player other than to wish you luck! (NT) -- JC*, 15:16:45 01/10/04 Sat

Hi JC and all the other spirit board regulars! I have been lurking here for quite some time and decided to post since things are slow. Over the holidays we saw Love Actually, Somethings Gotta Give, and Calander Girls. Rented Whale Rider, Pirates of the Carribean, and Holes. All really good. Book reccomend-The Time Travelers Wife-loved it! Happy Birthday to Mingo, glad he is dong well. My daughter turned six in December. Our babies are growing up fast. (NT) -- Michelle, 16:06:12 01/09/04 Fri

Hi Michelle and a big Welcome to you!! So glad you decided to post and have some fun with us!! Nope, no movies here unless you count The Rescue Hero movie and Lizzie Maguire(my 8 year old DD's choice;)!! What are 6 year olds into?? I'm still planning his party. I need to read The Time Traveler's Wife-I bet my book ladies would love it. (NT) -- JC*, 15:29:12 01/10/04 Sat
Hi, Michelle! You've dragged me out of lurkdom too *g*. I just bought the Time Traveler's Wife yesterday. It looks great! What did you think? Does it compare to DG? Does it get you thinking? I haven't started it yet as I am in the third "Full..." book of the Janet Evanovich series as well as another reread of Cross Stitch. I'll let you know when I get to it :-) (NT) -- Kylie McA, 06:02:21 01/17/04 Sat

Happy Birthday Mingo and welcome Michelle. Recent movies: Love Actually, Return of the King, Mystic River, Pirates of the Caribbean, Stigmata, Dogma (thanks for the recommendation Colly), probably rented others too but I can't remember. Books: There Be Dragons (Sharon Kay Penman), Nora Roberts "Key" trilogy based on a Celtic myth, just starting Laurell Kay Hamilton series, also have Niccolo Rising waiting as well. Celebrations: went skiing three times over the holidays without injuring any important body parts. I'm taking DD to Ikea tomorrow. She has saved her money to redecorate her room..she's 10 for crying out loud! She has money saved for a loft bed, lamp, and funky accessories. Maybe she will grow up to be an interior designer, who knows....now if she could just keep her room clean.... (NT) -- Brenda, 19:42:21 01/09/04 Fri

Brenda, glad to hear skiing went well. Did your eye clear up fine?? I have a copy of Laurell K Hamilton's "A Kiss of Shadows" Do you want it or anybody else? I'd be happy to send it some place where it will have a good home!! Just can't get into it I guess. I have been getting into Sherilyn Kenyon's Dark Hunter series!! Deep, dark and delish, yum!! Book goddesses are reading a Perfect Day by Richard Paul Evans and I found an Anya Seton at the library to try too. I'll let you know how I like it. (NT) -- Happy Reading all, JC*, 15:34:03 01/10/04 Sat

Thanks JC. Yes, my eye cleared up OK. I have episcleritis, which is an inflammatory disease that affects the outer lining of the eye (episclera). It comes and goes but this last time was a b**ch, it hurt a lot. The doc gave me prednisone (sp?) eye drops but it would have cleared up on its own anyway. OMG, I have to tell you about the doctor>>> -- Brenda, 23:28:53 01/10/04 Sat

OMis right!! Can you get back to a regular dr for a check up? Warm compresses do help with eyes if they start acting up again. Course with working and kids who has time to lie with a warm pack over the eyes and meditate??? (NT) -- JC*, 14:26:13 01/11/04 Sun

Happy late birthday to you my dear and to your little guy too!! Haven't been on the boards for a couple weeks. Busy busy! Welcome to all the newbies! Grab a cup of tea or coffee (or as in my case yerba mate' which I'm so glad to have found out about on this board!!) and enjoy a little conversation!! As for me, it was a busy holiday season. Three Christmas celebrations went on, got lots of fun stuff (including the bathtub spa that I so very much wanted after a terrible bad bout with my back). Had alot of last minute orders that sent me scurrying to the post office every day for a week and things at the gallery are going very well. I will be teaching my class on gemstones & crystal energy at the end of Feb. so I'm getting ready for that. Other than that, just reorganizing the house room by room. Boy is this a daunting task hahahahaha but good to get things cleared out. I swear we have a semi load to take to Good Will. Hi to everyone and hope all is well with you and yours. (NT) -- Lori, 22:10:06 01/09/04 Fri

Ohhhhh Lori, been thinking of you! Wish I were closer to take one of your gemstone classes or to just grab a cuppa with you. I was wearing your dragonfly necklace a few days ago and Betsy asked me if I ever sent it back to you for cleaning. When I said no, she informed me that I really should!! So one of these days, I will do that. I'm decluttering over here too. Even in taking down the holiday decorations I ask myself if I love each piece and things that do not give me joy esp. tree ornaments are being donated. Gave a huge stack of magazines to the exchange table at the library and will be getting a box of books together for the Friends of the library sale. Good to clear out every once in a while. (NT) -- JC*, 15:53:23 01/10/04 Sat

Hello All, hope everyone had a great holiday. Happy belated birthday to Mingo. As for movies, I've seen Return of the King and Cold Mountain. I finished the Lord John book and am now about half way through "The Touch" by Colleen McCullough. I plan to start a reread of "Outlander" after I finish this book. I had the opportunity to try some new food over the holidays. The President of the company I work for and his wife (my supervisor) are from India and they gave a Holiday party. His wife made all the Indian food and the American food was catered. It was some of the most delicious food! I can't pronounce the names of the dishes, but I tried them all (with the exception to shellfish as I have a fiendish allergy to the stuff!) Hope that everyone's year is happy and healthy with a good dose of peace. (NT) -- Bandruidh, 13:26:26 01/11/04 Sun

Nope, we don't need you to try the shellfish! Sounds like a most delish holiday party. So what is "The Touch" about? Can't remember if I've heard that one or not. (NT) -- JC*, 06:54:10 01/12/04 Mon

I get so deeply into my books - - - -- beccabee, 23:53:01 01/11/04 Sun

Off the Beaten Path Website -- beccabee, 18:10:57 01/14/04 Wed
If any of you folks are interested in a little oddball website, my good friends have one dedicated to photography, buttons, birds, jokes and philosophy. You can find it at http://users.adelphia.net/~larch/. These people have always followed their dreams, from the backwoods of British Columbia to the Caribbean, to California and now to Pennsylvania. If you need a winter pick-me-up I think you will enjoy their site.

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I do believe that today is JC's birthday. Have a great one JC and enjoy your party tonight, you goddess, you. -- Brenda, 12:03:09 01/02/04 Fri
I'm pretty sure I have this date right but not totally sure. I would like to post a nice piccie like you always do but being a complete technotard, I don't know how!

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Yes, this is indeed JC's birthday!!!! Many happy returns of the day, my friend. May all your wishes come true in 2004!!!! Thanks for being our birthday lady over this past year, you do a great job and, along with Brenda, if I could post a lovely picture for you-I'd do so. Happy Birthday, girfriend. (NT) -- Keira, 16:31:27 01/02/04 Fri
Happiest of Birthdays, to you, Dear Lady. JC, I do wish you tons of love, laughter, and light. You are such a Goddess!!!! (NT) -- Betsy, 00:51:48 01/03/04 Sat
You have a great day, JC! I am sure your family will do their best to make it memorable! (NT) -- Ron, 06:28:38 01/03/04 Sat
Thanks Brendaand everyone else for my birthday wishes! I was going to post an "It's my party!" message but got a bit busy! A few of my neighborhood goddesses came by last night, we gabbed all night and toasted my birthday. Toasted all of you as well in my heart and wished you could all be there with me. Little Guy is at my parents so Bets and I shopped till we dropped at the mall and enjoyed special time together. Off to go ice skating later this afternoon. So a very nice birthday weekend. (NT) -- JC*, 10:57:58 01/03/04 Sat

December 31-----------Happy Anniversary to Antje and Horst!! -- JeanClaire*, 21:32:36 12/30/03 Tue
Hope you have a wonderful celebration!!

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Happy Anniversary! (NT) -- Ron, 22:03:46 12/30/03 Tue
I hope you both have a wonderful anniversary. Congratulations! (NT) -- Brenda, 00:50:24 12/31/03 Wed
thank you :-) Yes, it was - as always - a very nice celebration, with fireworks and all :-D Happy New Year everyone!!!!! (NT) -- Antje, 06:08:58 01/02/04 Fri
WoooHooo, happy anniversary, Antje and Horst!!!! May you enjoy many more happy years together. (NT) -- Keira, 16:33:38 01/02/04 Fri

Movie recommendation -- Brenda, 14:59:46 12/30/03 Tue
A few months ago (OK, maybe more than a few *g*) someone recommended a movie to me but I have forgotten the name of it. I believe it was something of a satire having to do with religion or Catholicism. Does this ring a bell to anyone? I wandered around the video store the other night but nothing "clicked". I ended up renting "Stigmata", which was very good, some really good lines in that movie that hit home with me, but I don't think this is the one that was mentioned. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Has anyone else seen any good movies lately? (we was "Return of the King" a few days ago...fabulous!)

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Hi Brenda and thanks for the welcome! Sorry, nothing comes to mind regarding the movie you are searching for. I did see "Return of the King" Sunday and LOVED it. Well, all except for that ONE scene which I won't say and spoil for anyone here. Had to hide my eyes through part of it though. (NT) -- Bandruidh, 21:32:09 12/30/03 Tue
Really, I'm NOT dyslexic! I just reread my post and noticed that I spelled "saw" as "was" *smack*. Bandruidh...I think I know the part you mean, that was when my DD decided to change seats with her brother and sit beside (on top of?) me for the rest of the movie. (NT) -- Brenda, 22:16:14 12/30/03 Tue
"Shiver" I was holding onto my DH's hand so hard during that scene that it went numb and he's a strong man. I'm a bit phobic regarding the subject and he was amazed that I even sat through it without leaving the theater. But no way was I going to miss the last LOTR! (NT) -- Bandruidh, 22:54:57 12/30/03 Tue
Stigmata was a good movie but the one you were thinking of is Dogma. Wicked humor,silliness and foul language but it has a message. Don't let the kids watch it! (NT) -- Colly, 14:19:56 12/31/03 Wed

Thanks Colly...no, the kids won't be watching it. I will rent it next time I am at the video store. (NT) -- Brenda, 19:45:54 01/01/04 Thu

I wasn't the one doing the recommendation, but I think it may have been "DOGMA". You can check it out at www.imdb.com (NT) -- Jamie's Mom, 08:56:56 01/02/04 Fri

Hi All. Just wanted to say Hi and let you know that I have lurked here a time or two. I'm not sure what this Board is all about, but what I have read leads me to believe that it is something I am drawn to. I have been seaching for several years for a different meaning spiritually than what I have known in the past. Perhaps some of you can share your thoughts with me and lead me to a greater understanding of my own spiritual journey . Thanks for any info, help, support, or just the gift of gab from kindred spirits. -- Bandruidh, 23:04:28 12/29/03 Mon
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Welcome Bandruith! Pull up a chair and stay for a bit. This is the perfect board for gabbing as it's a bit slower paced than the other other LOL boards. (NT) -- JeanClaire*, 13:00:35 12/30/03 Tue

Hi JeanClaire and thanks for the welcome. I look forward to some interesting gabbing. (NT) -- Bandruidh, 23:01:53 12/30/03 Tue

Welcome Bandruith. It is always nice to meet new friends. This board is a wonderful place and the people very open to ideas. (NT) -- Brenda, 14:54:08 12/30/03 Tue
Glad to see you here! Join right in! (NT) -- Ron, 22:04:57 12/30/03 Tue

Ron, hello, you train nut! Glad to see you here as well! I'm leaving you a message on the HHT05 board regarding a train set. (NT) -- Bandruidh, 22:59:08 12/30/03 Tue

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