Oh wow, I like this discussion!*lol* It is true that I never been in the US, but that is not my point. The point is that I AM chatting with Americans, and other people, and have noticed that attitude everywhere. People from all over the US think like that. That is why I put that blanket all over the country.*g* Because it�s been my personal experience. And naked people on TV (enjoyable or not) aren�t the point either. It was only an example, a thing that shows how shameful the naked body obviously is. And I wanted to know where that comes from, not blame all Americans as being rednecks, hahaha. -- Spirit World

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Date Posted: 13:36:20 08/28/03 Thu
Author: Martina
Subject: Oh wow, I like this discussion!*lol* It is true that I never been in the US, but that is not my point. The point is that I AM chatting with Americans, and other people, and have noticed that attitude everywhere. People from all over the US think like that. That is why I put that blanket all over the country.*g* Because it�s been my personal experience. And naked people on TV (enjoyable or not) aren�t the point either. It was only an example, a thing that shows how shameful the naked body obviously is. And I wanted to know where that comes from, not blame all Americans as being rednecks, hahaha.
In reply to: Lissa 's message, "John Scott, Why is your experiences in the military and a bike club indicative of the N Am experience in general? I used to go to my father's rifle matches and also know what bullet holes look like, but not because I live in N Am. Martina might be right to some extent, but I still would not put that big of a blanket statement across the entire continent. Why? Because I live here and that is NOT my experience. Even if what you described was a fair description of the memories of your long ago youth *wink* does that mean that things are still the same today? Sure, we don't have naked weather here but we have MTV and the Love Channel. I also exercize my choice of never bothering to watch anything violent. Neither do I care for skin flicks. I don't need to be a voyeur to enjoy nakedness and sex. Does that make me warped? >>>>>>>" on 12:52:10 08/28/03 Thu

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[> [> [> [> Martina, well I hope we have at least dispelled *some* of the misconceptions about America? LOL But I was thinking, maybe it would be better for you to actually come out and ask these people you come across why they feel the way they do. In a non-threatening way of course. That way they could better help you to understand. It's hard for me to explain a 'why' to something when it does not reflect my own feelings on the matter. Does that make sense? Because I am not coming from their point of view I cannot explain why they might feel one way about one and not the other. Oh heck, I'll put more inside *g* - -- Linda, 14:43:56 08/28/03 Thu

I remember gun control being a large issue in the last election. Personally I am all for it! I hate guns and wouldn't even have one in the house if my husband did not have to carry one for his job. As it is he keeps that one locked up and I refuse even to know the combination. I have absolutely no desire to ever hold one. I can remember the issue being hotly debated, many people for gun control many people against it. Those that are against it feel that it is the people that are the problem, not the guns. My husband would probably agree more with this point a view. I will not get into a debate about it here, only pointing out that it *is* an issue. People in America are very concerned about the level of violence! Not only in the streets but on tv, in the movies etc. I often hear it talked about, it's effects on children etc.

As far as sex and young people's exposure to it goes, I think it comes down to Colly's post about intentions. People are afraid and want to protect their children's innocence. They're afraid if they discuss it or expose their children to it then they'll go out and *do* it and come back with some sort of horrible disease or become pregnant at a young age etc. So it's often hidden away for fear of what the consequences may be rather than discussed openly. I can see this changing too with the times so I think we are progressing in that respect. :)

Linda

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[> [> [> [> [> Thanks, I see that each country has it�s own problems, that is not what we are talking about here, even though interesting.*g* People here have the same fear about their kids, but there is still no hiding from the subject, or making it a taboo. Kids here get edjucated in that matter, but I know that Americans do that too. I was in chats where parents complained about it.*lol* I personally think it�s a good thing though. Knowledge prevents all those bad experiences, right? -- Martina, 15:03:23 08/28/03 Thu

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