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Date Posted: 05:35:25 09/02/03 Tue
Author: Martina
Subject: I forgot something >>>
In reply to: Jeannine 's message, "Fate, Free Will, or Just Dumb Luck?" on 01:35:40 09/02/03 Tue

It seems like we are “meant” to meet certain people, but that may be because we decided on the other side to do that. So what does “I am meant to” really mean? If I am meant to meet someone, because we have an “appointment” made on the other side, I still can decide not to like that person, ignore the “mirror” he/she is for me, and turn my back to him. I also can make the best of it and all works out well. I then say we were meant to meet.

Was I meant to meet John Scott here? Or was it a result of cause and effect? A chain of circumstances? We will never know, until we go back to the other side.

I donīt think someone is meant to be poor, if he doesnīt like it. Some poor people who are happy despite the lack of money, might have chosen a poor life. But that doesnīt mean they are stuck with it now.

If someone says I am not meant to something, it always sounds to me like a decision over my head and I canīt do anything about it. As if there was a written fate, and I am only a puppet on a string, powerless, lead by someone else. Iīd rather donīt believe that, haha.

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[> I will be brief: No to a plan. That answer rules out the next few questions. No, we are not a random collection of cells. We do not choose our parents; they chose each other. What most call luck is simply the fact that there are countless possibilities for many actions. Sometimes, the outcome we wish happens. That is a happy moment. However, we can influence the outcome of many events by our own actions. Often our actions can force an issue. So, to a point, I believe in self-determination. Since there are other factors, we can't always get what we want. Sometimes we want the impossible. This is too much for here. Let's chat later this month in person. -- Ron, 08:01:59 09/02/03 Tue


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[> [> Hey Ron, I canīt chat with you next month, and I appreciate your opinion! ;) Thanks for replying, and please donīt be brief, we like to read what you have to say! Oh I know, men are getting tired of typing quickly, hm? haha. So why donīt you think we choose our parents? Itīs been mentioned along the re-incarnation theories, and I think it makes sense. -- Martina, 08:00:26 09/03/03 Wed


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[> [> [> Hi, Martina. I was thinking of Jeannine when I said we could chat later this month, at the New Hampshire Games. I'm always brief >>>> -- Ron, 20:48:47 09/03/03 Wed

However, if you wish me to say more, I will do so. I don't believe in predestination or reincarnation, although a small voice inside me says that it seems to be a shame that an individual has been brought through all life's experiences never to be here again. Since I don't believe in reincarnation, however, I cannot accept the idea that we can choose our parents before we are born. This is why I say that our parents choose each other. They have self-determination. Having the unborn child do the choosing rules out their freedom of action.

BTW, I don't tire of typing - I write for model railroad magazines and even write my own impossible fictional stories to entertain myself. In the summer, I'm usually too tired or don't have the time to do much. The other day was like that, so I amswered concisely.

Verstehen-sie? I had fun last week conducting some German born visitors around the Museum. I was discovered as an impostor in about one minute! My German speaking ability is rather limited!


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[> [> [> [> I just saw your reply! A little late, I know, but I am very busy right now. Makes sense Ron, if one doesnīt believe in reincarnation a lot of the new age thinking just doesnīt fit, because it is based on that. Hey, I am glad you like typing!*g* Maybe it is just that men donīt ramble as much as women do?*VBG* -- Martina, 15:33:56 09/17/03 Wed


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