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Date Posted: 14:56:05 05/30/02 Thu
Author: Simster
Author Host/IP: 212.124.229.1
Subject: Charlie Vike, Jet Moses


Please please tell me that you are embarrassed by articles such as this:

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.sportingnews.com/voices/...r/20020529.html">http://www.sportingnews.com/voices/...r/20020529.html</a>

Why do they feel the need to defend "football" everytime the "soccer" World Cup comes about (every 4 years)?
Is it the law in America that you are not allowed to like soccer AND your traditional sports or something?

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[> http://www.sportingnews.com/voices/vinnie_iyer/20020529.html -- Simster - oops, 14:59:43 05/30/02 Thu (212.124.229.1)


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[> [> Is there an NFL Europe ? I've never heard of it. -- tUS, 15:18:37 05/30/02 Thu (195.38.93.131)


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[> [> [> Given that even in America it's pretty much the equivalent of rugby - all the players are picked from college drafts, the equivalent of only picking players who go to univeristies here - it is only a minority sport there too. Most like baseball and all the poor kids would rather play basketball. -- orfc, 15:26:34 05/30/02 Thu (146.176.162.14)


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[> [> [> [> Seems odd though when the article says "Do we have a Bundesliga" as a rhetorical question. They have the MLS and have actually qualified for the World Cup. -- tUS, 15:31:26 05/30/02 Thu (195.38.93.131)


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[> [> [> [> [> Yeah, but that would have involved an american knowing something about the outside world (i.e. over the county line) -- orfc, 15:33:24 05/30/02 Thu (146.176.162.14)


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[> [> [> [> [> One of his sources of mockery was the fact that the most exciting part of a match is "gooaaaall". Erm, well quite. Can someone tell me the point he is trying to make there? Also, in France 98, the average goals per game was 2.67, not 0.5. But what do I know eh, he's the professional sports journalist not me. He comes across as a plump yammering NASCAR diggin' boobjob with no brain. -- Simster, 15:39:34 05/30/02 Thu (212.124.229.1)


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[> The writer was attempting to be funny. He failed miserably. I'm not embarrassed by Vinnie Iyer's inability to write a humorous article. Sorry, Simster (a/k/a Chip Burgermeister, a/k/a Irony Bypass). BTW, more Americans understand and enjoy "soocer". This is due to the rapid growth (over the past 20 years) of youth soccer leagues. My 6 year old boy will be playing this summer. -- Charlie Vike, 15:49:32 05/30/02 Thu (207.170.57.5)


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[> [> Did I use the name Irony Bypass - I thought I used Bob Cheesekopft. Come along Charles, you're not still bitter about my pěss takes are you? Are you catching any of the WC yourself or will you be giving it a wide berth? -- Simster, 15:55:16 05/30/02 Thu (212.124.229.1)


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[> [> [> BTW, my 8 month old son will play for England and is already dreaming of competing against the likes of Liverpool, Man Utd and York City in the Premiership in 20 years time. -- Simster, 15:57:52 05/30/02 Thu (212.124.229.1)


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[> [> [> [> Stick it where the sun don't shine -- tUS, 15:58:44 05/30/02 Thu (195.38.93.131)


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[> [> [> [> [> Rochdale? -- OMP, 16:54:50 05/30/02 Thu (193.133.143.241)


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Git....... -- OD, 11:41:15 05/31/02 Fri (193.214.111.226)


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[> [> [> You did. I still cry myself to sleep over that one. I doubt I'll watch the World Cup. I can't help but give it a wide berth, due to my massive girth. Well...I'm off to eat a dozen or so cheeseburgers (I'm trying to cut back a littel). -- Charlie Vike, 18:51:02 05/30/02 Thu (207.170.57.5)


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[> [> Best news we've heard in a while. -- Portugal, Poland & South Korea, 16:00:26 05/30/02 Thu (152.105.146.40)


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[> [> *pokes with stick and runs away* -- Childish intransigence, 16:35:26 05/30/02 Thu (146.176.162.14)


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[> Anti American rant in here -- Jesus Quintana, 16:49:13 05/30/02 Thu (139.184.30.11)

The thing about American sports is that whilst theyre all enjoyable to play (particularly Basketball), watching them is a guaranteed cure for insomnia. Stats over-kill, scoring off every attack, stop start action.Because of their short concentration span, a 50 minute game like Basketball has to be broken up into little bits so it lasts about 8 hours. There's also absolutely no atmosphere which means you simply can't get excited about any particular team. And incidentally the team names are ridiculous.

I think its good that Americans treat the World Cup like a joke. If they ever get into it the money men will want it to be more appealing to them. Mark my words we'll be playing in all seater indoor arenas, having cheering lead by piped in music watching games between the England Knights and the Germany Crusaders that are divided into 4 quarters plus 2 time outs per team. And we won't need to worry about who has been responsible for the most 70 degree passes at a length of over 8 yards.And of course something will need to be done to ensure at least 15 goals per match, most likely allowing outfield players to use their hands as well as goalkeepers

Piss off Sepp Blatter with your attempts to make football more global. With the possible excpetion of a coupld of more credible challengers from Africa (they bring a bit more colour and play attacking football)its global enough as it is.


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[> [> Reply -- Charlie Vike, 19:18:39 05/30/02 Thu (207.170.57.5)

1. You might enjoy the sport if you understood it. Playing it every now and again hardly means that you understand the sport.

2. Stats over-kill. I agree on that point.

3. Scoring off of every "attack". I'm not sure what you mean here, but I think you mean that somebody scores every time that they're on "offense". This simply isn't true. Maybe you're confusing the number of points awarded with the number of times a team scores (i.e. in American Football, a touchdown is 6 points).

4. Short attention spans. The "stop and start" nature of some of these games actually requires you to pay attention for longer periods of time. Moreover, I think your comments on this issue smack more of ignorance than reality. Show me some evidence (other than your own wishful thinking borne of a desire to feel better than someone else) to support this.

5. Money men. You've got a point here. This kind of person ruins sports. There are enough "purists", however, to make sure that the money men don't completely pasteurize the fun out of sports.

6. Globalization. I'm not sure what your concern is here. If you're worried about the level of competition rising, toughen up and compete. If you're just spewing, you're the one who should piss off.


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[> [> [> Hooray, we're all on the same side. Actually, I like "American" sports, except gridiron which is shit and played by 49 fat blokes and one all-American white man with polished teeth, combed hair and a good throwing arm. You have to have time for Baseball, it's another international, and simple game to play. Ice hockey also has global appeal and I share JQs views on Basketball. -- Simster, 10:42:52 05/31/02 Fri (212.124.229.1)


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[> [> Re: Anti American rant in here -- IMAASSKICKIN USAREDNECK JR, 18:02:13 05/31/02 Fri (66.182.8.123)

Thats because "JESUS" you are probably a refugee from a faggott banana republic and our sports require too much concentration and stamina,which NONE of you limey bastards have


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