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Marco don't underestimate the power of the FA Cup. -- CB, Saturday, March 07, 06:59:23pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
Best available starting 11. You only have to witness today's games to understand it.

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- Yes whoever is 100% fit should be up for selection . We will have exactly 1 week until our next game so no experimenting to ‘freshen up’ positions. (NT) -- Mickey, Saturday, March 07, 07:09:08pm (host86-142-52-127.range86-142.btcentralplus.com/86.142.52.127)
  - Blimey Mickey. Glad to see your up for the cup! (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Saturday, March 07, 10:51:09pm (NoHost/31.94.74.111)
- Wrexham prem bound.Such a fine margin between Prem & Championship. Money is the only difference. And bias for big clubs. (NT) -- CB, Saturday, March 07, 07:40:22pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
  - and yet another VAR instance where the mysterious 5cm tolerance was completely ignored. If indeed there is such a rule, it seems really strange that it is hardly ever implemented. The one thing that I feel is completely wrong about the so called ‘semi-automated’ system is that it still relies on the VAR officials deciding on exactly which frame is used. This makes it a human judgement which can be swayed by a number of factors! (NT) -- Ted White, Sunday, March 08, 12:14:53am (NoHost/185.128.9.54)
- A comma after Marco makes all the difference between a statement and a request! (NT) -- Long Termer, Saturday, March 07, 08:05:34pm (host86-147-182-137.range86-147.btcentralplus.com/86.147.182.137)
  - Sad ! It's a request that most, barring pendants, would understand. Or both, depending on your persuasion. (NT) -- CB, Saturday, March 07, 08:29:54pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
    - Yes, never wear a pendant when discussing grammar (NT) -- Pedantic Pete, Saturday, March 07, 08:52:54pm (IBJ.dsl.etalk.net.au/202.172.96.33)
    - Nice one! Nobody should ever! Unless on stage in Vegas :) (NT) -- CB, Saturday, March 07, 11:19:18pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
      - :-) (NT) -- PP (MH), Sunday, March 08, 01:26:12am (IBJ.dsl.etalk.net.au/202.172.96.33)
  - It was an observation not a criticism. If you were in a bad mood, the post could easily be read as a criticism of Silva that he doesn't care about the FA Cup. (NT) -- Long Termer, Saturday, March 07, 09:21:53pm (host86-147-182-137.range86-147.btcentralplus.com/86.147.182.137)
    - The fact that we are at home to perceived to inferior competition may lead to complacency. It’s both a request and advice. We have struggled unnecessarily in the past against lesser opposition. (NT) -- CB Just saying. Nobody’s perfect, Saturday, March 07, 11:06:42pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
      - Saints 5W 1D last 6 games. They'll fancy their chances (NT) -- MH, Sunday, March 08, 03:04:19am (IBJ.dsl.etalk.net.au/202.172.96.33)
- Re: Marco don't underestimate the power of the FA Cup.: He never has !!! (NT) -- Alboy, Saturday, March 07, 09:04:08pm (host109-150-14-246.range109-150.btcentralplus.com/109.150.14.246)
Milllllllllll !!!!! -- Mickey, Saturday, March 07, 02:08:24pm (82-132-230-63.dab.02.net/82.132.230.63)
Currently winning at Hull and only a point behind Boro who they are still to play . What a joy it would be to behold them potentially replacing Spurs or more so for them West Ham🎉.

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- Not sure I understand the joy in them coming up. Scummy fans that want a row wherever they go. Only good point is they'll be guaranteed to go back down. (NT) -- Jim©, Saturday, March 07, 02:14:57pm (host86-170-249-213.range86-170.btcentralplus.com/86.170.249.213)
  - The handful I know are all jolly good fellows , always backing Team and Players and very very fair when they don’t play well. Maybe not cerebral enough for the glitterati chosen few on here of course !! Imagine them having a conversation with our 2 Essay -writing Stooges 😂 (NT) -- Mickey, Saturday, March 07, 02:25:29pm (82-132-230-63.dab.02.net/82.132.230.63)
    - HaHa love it Mickster.Jolly good fellows.Eton or Harrow. (NT) -- HemelRog, Saturday, March 07, 03:20:15pm (host31-104-142-81.range31-104.btcentralplus.com/31.104.142.81)
    - My godfather is Millwall, but he's embarrassed by a load of their fans. West ham lite. (NT) -- Jim©, Saturday, March 07, 05:38:24pm (host86-170-249-213.range86-170.btcentralplus.com/86.170.249.213)
    - I have to say that in all my years I can't recall ever meeting a Millwall fan. I've met people who support all the other London clubs, but never them. They must all live south of the river and rarely stray beyond their manor.. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Saturday, March 07, 09:52:03pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- Wonder what the average Japanese tourist will make of it! (NT) -- bs, Saturday, March 07, 02:28:22pm (NoHost/62.64.185.203)
- Been to Millwall far too often to wish anything nice for the Club or its fans. Horrible place, horrible fans. (NT) -- GTS, Saturday, March 07, 04:03:49pm (NoHost/94.14.186.219)
  - Re: Been to Millwall far too often to wish anything nice for the Club or its fans. Horrible place, horrible fans. (NT) -- Don’t tell him Pike., Saturday, March 07, 10:44:57pm (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
Funny - was only saying to someone yesterday how I remember attending Fulham-Spurs in the Scond Division back in the day - -- Rupert, Saturday, March 07, 08:07:15am (97e45270.skybroadband.com/151.228.82.112)
Just been on ITV4 - missed it but will get it on +1 - otherwise should be available on Catch Up.

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- Re: Funny - was only saying to someone yesterday how I remember attending Fulham-Spurs in the Scond Division back in the day - (NT) -- Peter Taylor missed a sitter was at game., Saturday, March 07, 09:10:34am (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
  - Ah, just remembered that now, must be one of the worst misses I’ve seen at the Cottage. Roger Davies against Chelsea was the very worst I’ve ever seen. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Saturday, March 07, 12:42:32pm (host86-142-67-240.range86-142.btcentralplus.com/86.142.67.240)
- Remember that game well. It was very wet but a good match. (NT) -- FlitwickFulham, Saturday, March 07, 09:16:37am (flit-04-b2-v4wan-169180-cust2921.vm32.cable.virginm.net/81.96.171.106)
- I remember that game. A Brian Greenaway half volley equaliser? or does my memory trick me? (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Saturday, March 07, 11:42:44am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- I remember mostly how crowded it was, couldn't get into The Enclosure where we normally stood, so had to stand with the Spurs fans in the Putney End. (NT) -- GTS, Saturday, March 07, 12:52:45pm (NoHost/94.14.186.219)
- That was the game where the Spurs fans invaded the pitch before the game from the Putney End into the Hammersmith End to get out the rain mostly (NT) -- Ffc, Saturday, March 07, 02:20:55pm (97e1e33c.skybroadband.com/151.225.227.60)
Lecomte Amissah Bassey Diop Berge Iwobi Chuck King Bobb Muniz Think giving Amissah a game is worth it be interesting to see if he really is as good as he could be don't see any other reason to change much Muniz should start because if Raul gets injured we're fucked -- Team 4 Sunday, Friday, March 06, 08:26:08pm (NoHost/147.93.215.40)
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- Go on then, I'll bite. Why would we not start with our strongest side, which includes Raul up front, on Sunday and why would we start with only ten players ? (NT) -- FFC in Brighton., Friday, March 06, 09:32:49pm (NoHost/2.120.137.10)
  - I missed the rb don't get upset my precious and silva never starts a full strength side he showed the on Wednesday so hey not give them a chance Robinson has been poor since his return and if Raul has played two games he needs a rest like I said he gets injured then what? Leno deserves to be dropped after his mistake so out of eleven only two players would come in from Wednesday being muniz and amissah these players are the beach because they known their place isn't a risk (NT) -- Someone's PMSing, Friday, March 06, 09:54:21pm (NoHost/147.93.215.40)
    - Tongue in cheek response response to a slightly bizarre post. Agree that Leno has fallen below the expected/required standard so would expect to see Lecomte start tomorrow. I find it bizarre that anyone would suggest that an untried player would start in what is arguably our biggest game of the season so far. Silva's known for integrating players into the team over a period of time. My interpretation is that he rested players on Wednesday with a view to progressing in the FA Cup (NT) -- FFC in Brighton, Saturday, March 07, 05:45:33pm (NoHost/147.148.103.134)
      - If he is resting players in a league game that has as much if not more importance then that's extremely poor management and along with bringing in players gradually is another fault of his but untried players have played in important games and gone into be stars so yes they should be given the opportunity especially when players like Robinson aren't performing then they should be involved silva should be more cutthroat (NT) -- Doyle, Saturday, March 07, 07:28:27pm (NoHost/31.13.189.125)
        
        Splitting hairs when it comes to resting players or keeping fringe players involved. Ironically it was a mis-communication between Leno and Bassey that lead to West Ham's goal mid-week but the fact remains that other players were given an opportunity to step up and didn't. (NT) -- FFC in Brighton, Saturday, March 07, 08:23:24pm (NoHost/2.120.137.10)
        
        The team mid week isn't far off our best eleven bar say king and diop who was given an opportunity against spurs and took it Bassey imo wasn't at fault Leno came out and bottled it instead clearing and deserves to be dropped and Robinson albeit kept up with bowen didn't keep him quiet and still cannot cross a ball therefore again should be dropped only Raul who hasn't played much in the cup this season should be rested I wouldn't be surprised if that eleven starts on Sunday with 1 or 2 changes (NT) -- Voyle, Saturday, March 07, 08:40:38pm (87-120-102-200.madcom.al/87.120.102.200)
        
        I was surprised to see both King and Cairney start on Wednesday. Agree that Diop deserved his place in the starting line-up after his late call up and performance against Spurs. Agree that Leno's performances have been below par, Everton at home case in point, so would anticipate Lecomte starting tomorrow as a result. (NT) -- FFC in Brighton, Saturday, March 07, 09:02:39pm (NoHost/2.120.137.10)
        
        Me too I hope he's not putting all his eggs in the FA cup basket seeing as the big teams have all gone through without upsets (although very Fulham to be the first tomorrow) the next round is going to be tough (NT) -- Foyles, Saturday, March 07, 09:31:38pm (87-120-102-200.madcom.al/87.120.102.200)
- Had you even heard of Amissah before the rumours popped up on BBC this week? (NT) -- GA, Saturday, March 07, 12:57:22am (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
  - Oh yeah, he only posts on the academy page all the time, plays for England, and even appeared for us in pre-season… but sure, no one’s heard of him. (NT) -- retard alert, Saturday, March 07, 01:27:15am (NoHost/45.88.190.109)
    - Who said anything about "no one"? (NT) -- GA, Saturday, March 07, 09:16:49pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
      - He's a well known player and highly rated what are you trying to prove do yourself a favour and touch grass (NT) -- GA, Saturday, March 07, 10:25:46pm (NoHost/195.88.86.136)
- What are we resting players for, we cant go down and wont finish in european spots (NT) -- Waterboy, Saturday, March 07, 11:37:17am (NoHost/90.242.53.3)
  - But we can finish in the European spots, by that logic we can't win the FA cup so why bother (NT) -- common sense, Saturday, March 07, 12:16:22pm (NoHost/185.213.80.178)
  - Why do the super fit players need resting anyway? (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Saturday, March 07, 12:17:31pm (NoHost/31.94.74.111)
    - Because even athletes need a rest even marco seems to agree considering he's been subbed off the last two games with 20 to spare and hasn't played a full half in the fa cup yet we also need match fitness for Muniz as stated previously if Raul gets injured we'd have no fit strikers either way silva will never win anything if he rests players he'd be criticised if he plays them and they look tired they'll say he should've rested players (NT) -- fickle, Saturday, March 07, 12:46:23pm (NoHost/217.216.107.247)
      - Strange how years ago when there was a 1st eleven players never got tired.. it was never a thing. Muddy pitches, heavy ball, vastly inferior training practices, and yet not a whimper about being tired back then. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Saturday, March 07, 01:02:41pm (NoHost/31.94.74.111)
        
        Because tactics have changed the games more intense more games are played, players are stronger now meaning their more heavier a plethora of reasons why they need rest now player shave longer careers due to the sports science improving and squads becoming larger. If you like the olden days so much tune into itv 4 every Saturday (NT) -- New age Old man, Saturday, March 07, 01:40:36pm (NoHost/217.216.107.60)
        
        Some corrections needed there. Teams do not necessarily play more games now than previously. Games per season has remained fairly stable. Nothing like what Liverpool's first eleven used to play in the seventies. Players are stronger now. Also more explosive, more athletic, but more often LEANER and lighter with less body fat. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Saturday, March 07, 02:31:24pm (NoHost/31.94.74.111)
        Another reason you give is that squads are now larger. That surely makes their task easier, not harder. Yes, they enjoy longer careers now than before. That would imply less tiredness, not more. There may be sporting scientific reasons why your claim is correct, but you need to know why. Your answers are unfounded. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Saturday, March 07, 02:40:17pm (NoHost/31.94.74.111)
        
        Teams DO play more games now than in the 70s and 80s they enjoy longer careers because they are now athletes and because the science has improved squads are larger but OURS is not therefore we do need to rest specific players which is what marco does it's really not hard to understand just have a quick google (NT) -- not too bright are we, Saturday, March 07, 07:08:16pm (NoHost/217.216.107.161)
        
        A quick Google will tell you that clubs in the prem do not play more games now than before and probably less minutes with rotation.. You've bought a modern myth. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Saturday, March 07, 08:26:07pm (NoHost/31.94.74.110)
        
        Larger squads and longer careers don’t eliminate fatigue. Modern football is faster, more explosive, and players cover more distance per match with more intensity, the physical load is far higher, and leaner bodies take longer to recover from micro fatigue. Rotation is essential to maintain peak performance and reduce injury risk given the demands of each game. (NT) -- Read a book, Saturday, March 07, 07:19:05pm (NoHost/84.233.199.83)
        
        Some of what you said contradicts what's been said earlier. Difficult to debate with that. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Saturday, March 07, 08:39:55pm (NoHost/31.94.74.110)
        And name me the book you read on this subject. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Saturday, March 07, 08:59:34pm (NoHost/31.94.74.110)
        
        I don't get the point you're trying to make? I stated we play more games now than before that's a fact larger squads are there so players don't play every game and to avoid an injury crisis the science has improved to prevent this but it's not avoidable players are in best shape more than ever but again still need rests which is why we rotate this can also be tactical who knows other than the manager There's no specific book you have to study and research now back to the basement you go. (NT) -- Give it a rest, Saturday, March 07, 09:38:49pm (NoHost/195.88.86.231)
        
        If not in Europe it's still the same 3 competitions with no replays = less games. Used to be a 42 game league as well. Don't know where your "more games" come from. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Saturday, March 07, 10:14:40pm (NoHost/31.94.74.110)
        
        Im talking in general they do play more games if you're talking specifically about us then yes we play less but as I've stated it's more intense compared to lower tempo games played before I genuinely believe you're retarded if rotation bothers you so much go and speak to the players and managers (NT) -- Neck it, Saturday, March 07, 10:24:16pm (NoHost/147.93.215.197)
        
        Ah! You agree! We and by extension, most other prem clubs play less games now. We got there in the end. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Saturday, March 07, 10:49:00pm (NoHost/31.94.74.111)
        
        The argument you made was in general not specifically us if you said that then yes I would've agreed but you're original point was why do super fit players need a rest, like I said you're clearly a slow individual which is fine I hope you get the help you need the government has benefits for you so take advantage and one day you'll be able to understand basic conversations (: (NT) -- Bedtime Son, Saturday, March 07, 11:09:28pm (NoHost/195.88.86.24)
Buried in Wednesdays news. Liverpool away -- bs, Friday, March 06, 05:18:26pm (NoHost/2.126.191.47)
A 5:30 kick off less than five miles from Aintree on the day of the Grand National. Bizarre or what. Good luck getting out or trying to get a drink after.

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- When I was a lad (a long time ago!), whichever one of Everton or Liverpool was home on National day used to kicking off around 11.30am. Plenty of time for those attending to get to Aintree after the match. (NT) -- Beano Reader, Friday, March 06, 05:49:29pm (109-224-140-225.static.as8607.net/109.224.140.225)
Trying to find a website that lists all our fixtures kick off times this season -- Duke, Friday, March 06, 02:27:20pm (NoHost/95.214.228.147)
After 69 years of following the boy mostly as a season ticket holder have had enough of the times of kick offs

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- Just google Fulham fc Fixtures 2025/26 (NT) -- Ffc, Friday, March 06, 02:51:46pm (97e1e33c.skybroadband.com/151.225.227.60)
- Here: https://www.fulhamfc.com/matches/?view=results (NT) -- Happy to help, Friday, March 06, 03:02:08pm (NoHost/90.204.91.94)
- So you saw Jezzard play? I must have just missed him after his injury. Although have no recall of the very first game. (NT) -- CB, Friday, March 06, 04:54:11pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
  - I didn't see Jezzard play for Fulham but in about 1961 I went to a Sunday charity match at Edgware FC between a team of sports journalists and former internationals and Jezzard was playing. Sadly that's all I remember about the game. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Friday, March 06, 05:28:44pm (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
- Re: Trying to find a website that lists all our fixtures kick off times this season -- Duke, Saturday, March 07, 08:14:41am (NoHost/95.214.228.147)
Southampton digital tickets -- Dooley, Friday, March 06, 09:40:15am (seve-29-b2-v4wan-163452-cust742.vm13.cable.virginm.net/82.8.82.231)
Has anyone received their ticket for Sunday's game yet?

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- Unlike with away games, I received this straight away as part of the booking confirmation email on the 23rd. (NT) -- MF, Friday, March 06, 09:56:10am (NoHost/212.103.232.179)
  - Me too, by email. Check your junk mail? (NT) -- Observer, Friday, March 06, 10:48:31am (NoHost/90.202.14.192)
- Actually really glad you've flagged this as i hadn't really thought about it, have just checked and definitely don't have an email from the club with my tickets, so guess i need to call the TO (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, March 06, 11:18:08am (85-115-43-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.43.2)
  - If you go to your account history you should be able to resend the email from that order (NT) -- Other c, Friday, March 06, 08:35:31pm (NoHost/94.10.200.14)
- Thanks observer. Found it in my junk mail. (NT) -- Dooley, Friday, March 06, 12:27:57pm (seve-29-b2-v4wan-163452-cust742.vm13.cable.virginm.net/82.8.82.231)
- Bought a ticket for West Ham away on December 17th. It arrived on January 25th. A month after the game! (NT) -- bs, Friday, March 06, 02:05:09pm (82-132-220-91.dab.02.net/82.132.220.91)
Highlights of Spurs Vs Palace -- Block E, Thursday, March 05, 11:51:31pm (host86-178-193-240.range86-178.btcentralplus.com/86.178.193.240)
Highlights of tonight's Spurs Vs Palace <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/videos/cz6ee6pj192o">https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/videos/cz6ee6pj192o</a>

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Arsenal, Manchester United and Chelsea are set to battle to sign England Under-19 centre-back Samuel Amissah, 18, from Fulham. -- have we offered a decent contract to the lad, Thursday, March 05, 11:42:01pm (host31-50-73-241.range31-50.btcentralplus.com/31.50.73.241)
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- Probably not, but sounds like we need to! (NT) -- Fkev, Friday, March 06, 09:08:26am (NoHost/57.133.213.87)
- Re: Arsenal, Manchester United and Chelsea are set to battle to sign England Under-19 centre-back Samuel Amissah, 18, from Fulham. -- mannyfrommarden (What is going on?/), Friday, March 06, 09:24:27am (NoHost/176.20.176.242)
  - Or we can put them all on super expensive contracts and then follow their careers as they slide down the divisions eg Sean Kavanagh and possibly Luke Harris (NT) -- f bloke, Friday, March 06, 09:34:08am (NoHost/2.223.121.65)
  - We had a financial need to sell Roberts. Elliot and Carvalho wouldn't sign the contracts they were offered because they wanted to play for Liverpool. Understandable but it didn't work out for them. With young players the club has to make a judgement as to what it's reasonable to offer them and what sort of career we think they can have. That's not a precise science and we can't force these guys to sign contracts if they don't want to. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Friday, March 06, 10:27:59am (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
- He's meant to be a good prospect poor from the club if we lose him should tie him down but how many players have left us and gone on to have fruitful careers? (NT) -- poor form, Friday, March 06, 11:15:52am (87-120-102-71.madcom.al/87.120.102.71)
- Damn kids! Tie them down, if they won't sign, cut off a toe. (NT) -- Ungrateful whippersnappers!, Friday, March 06, 12:32:53pm (95-177-87-24.bmsnet.managedbroadband.co.uk/95.177.87.24)
Could be worse -- HE, Thursday, March 05, 08:49:51pm (lewi-28-b2-v4wan-166893-cust665.vm4.cable.virginm.net/86.16.2.154)
Could be Tottenham

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- oh to be in the palace end lol (NT) -- bs, Thursday, March 05, 08:57:08pm (NoHost/2.126.191.47)
- Lads, it's Spurs.......... (NT) -- GA, Thursday, March 05, 11:07:43pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- It's going to be an interesting battle against relegation. Some opinions still point towards Leeds, although I think they'll survive. Westham have found a bit of form and Forest's draw against City could be the result to boost their confidence, as they have a squad full of talent and shouldn't be anywhere near the drop zone. That leaves Tottenham who are in free fall. Tudor has been a totally ineffective appointment which has wasted valuable time and the players look completely disinterested. (NT) -- Samuel, Friday, March 06, 08:05:41am (NoHost/90.253.228.158)
  - He's their Felix Magath. Next thing you know there'll be blocks of cheddar in the physio room. (NT) -- MH, Friday, March 06, 08:57:56am (IBJ.dsl.etalk.net.au/202.172.96.33)
- Forest should be fine, Spurs are only down there because of injuries so should pick up, I actually think Leeds may be the worst team in the league, they have been incredibly lucky so far, may come down to the final day at West Ham which is surely the most vile of three really vile clubs... (NT) -- Rupert, Friday, March 06, 10:34:31am (97e45270.skybroadband.com/151.228.82.112)
Palace goal just disallowed. His Nose off side -- Get rid of this bent VAR garbage, Thursday, March 05, 08:36:11pm (maid-08-b2-v4wan-169552-cust751.vm41.cable.virginm.net/80.192.206.240)
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- Hang on. What about the Wirtz tolerance? (NT) -- Jari’s Mullet, Thursday, March 05, 08:41:29pm (170.pool90-167-166.dynamic.orange.es/90.167.166.170)
  - My first thought too. Premier League is fixed - only people still write letters to Santa don't believe that! (NT) -- Backhanders..., Thursday, March 05, 08:58:45pm (NoHost/90.204.91.94)
- Sorry to repeat myself, "it's just one more bent ref". It's sucking what little enjoyment there is left in football from the matchday experience. Can't even celebrate goals anymore (NT) -- Fkev, Friday, March 06, 08:30:49am (NoHost/57.133.213.87)
Wan- Bissaka -- Muffy Diver., Thursday, March 05, 08:15:25pm (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
The Tom Daley Award for 2026 bloody awful.

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Fans must take some of the blame for last night's result. Terrible atmosphere, Embarrassing. Do these people think they're watching snooker? -- Pump up the volume, Thursday, March 05, 08:04:45pm (NoHost/90.204.91.94)
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- Re: Fans must take some of the blame for last night's result. Terrible atmosphere, Embarrassing. Do these people think they're watching snooker? (NT) -- Northampton Town, Thursday, March 05, 08:20:10pm (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
- The atmosphere is always poor we give tickets to tourists or opposition teams like when we played Arsenal for example but you can't blame the fans for last night it was a piss poor performance we couldn't string together basic passes and to top it off we concede and silva sits on his arse for the remainder. How can fans be up for it when the players and manager couldn't give a toss (NT) -- average, Thursday, March 05, 08:58:49pm (NoHost/147.93.215.157)
  - Fans job is to SUPPORT the team. Not stand around like mutes thinking I'm not going to support the team because from what I can tell the players and manager don't give a toss... (NT) -- Pump up the volume, Thursday, March 05, 09:03:23pm (NoHost/90.204.91.94)
    - Well no the fans feed of the pitch who then bounce it back to the pitch what was there to cheer about last night? We were shit so I don't blame the fans no big tackles so constant attack are they supposed to sing the whole 90 when the players and manager don't care why should they? We're not the only team that experiences this Chelsea West Ham Brentford etc stop making excuses for piss poor performances (NT) -- armchair fan, Thursday, March 05, 10:03:55pm (NoHost/147.93.215.157)
      - No fans don't feed off the pitch. Some club's fans create an incredible atmosphere before a ball is kicked and the players then feed off that. (NT) -- Pump up the volume, Friday, March 06, 11:12:05am (NoHost/90.204.91.94)
  - That's a ridiculous comment Silva is very committed and do our the players. These things happen in football it wasn't a great performance but we still.had more possession, more shots, and more shots on target. (NT) -- Alboy, Thursday, March 05, 10:29:38pm (host109-150-14-246.range109-150.btcentralplus.com/109.150.14.246)
    - He's so committed he still hasn't signed a new deal? How does that work? Players have dropped heads again just like the last few seasons when Europe is in sight you're right it does happen to other teams but it always happens to us also those stats mean nothing we lost just like this recorded points total thing it meant nothing you don't get a trophy for these (NT) -- crazy, Thursday, March 05, 10:37:00pm (NoHost/147.93.215.157)
West Ham -- Alboy, Thursday, March 05, 07:48:09pm (host109-150-14-246.range109-150.btcentralplus.com/109.150.14.246)
Yes it was a poor game, we had more possession, more shots, more shots on target. It boiled down to us making a mistake that gave them a goal and their keeper making a couple of great saves from King and Castagne. Small margins change games including var again changing a decision that cost us. Many are blaming the Manager for the line up but changes were definitely realistic considering we played three days before. I certainly get the frustration we shouldn't have lost this game. The main thing is to regroup and go again. The next game gives us the perfect chance.

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- You really are quite simply.... (NT) -- a FUCKING IDIOT., Thursday, March 05, 10:31:52pm (NoHost/23.191.80.119)
- Couldn't agree more. Sensible post. (NT) -- Crafty Cottager, Friday, March 06, 02:21:07pm (customer.lndngbr1.isp.starlink.com/145.224.67.18)
Thrown game -- Just asking, Thursday, March 05, 07:11:18pm (NoHost/78.111.194.83)
Any truth in the rumour the players threw the game last night as they were pissed off with Spuds constant moaning about the slight push in our first goal against them.

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- I don't think they were impressed with Tudor calling Raul a cheat (NT) -- sog, Thursday, March 05, 07:30:40pm (NoHost/31.55.117.107)
Sunday -- Depressed, Thursday, March 05, 12:00:22pm (host81-159-178-64.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.178.64)
Since our only hope of a trophy winning the FA Cup.
As such will Silva realise his errors and select a strongest team avaliable. We are pretty safe from relegation so there is no need for resting players who are fit to play.
I will keep my fingers and toes crossed!!!!!

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- No Chance! Changes a plenty incoming. Goalie Castagne Andersen Cuenca Reed Lukic King Muniz all start. (NT) -- Marco Silva II, Thursday, March 05, 12:24:03pm (NoHost/148.252.146.254)
  - Every chance ! But does Marco actually know what his strongest team is, allowing for injuries ? Do any of us really know ? A dozen responses would select a dozen options, both nominal and positional. The more pertinent question might be what’s Eckert going to do with his team on Sunday.? Getting to the play offs has to be the Saint’s priority, so maybe more tweaks than us. The only certainty I can predict is if we fail to progress there’s gonna be carnage here… (NT) -- Bad Boy, Thursday, March 05, 12:59:22pm (NoHost/2.126.58.251)
  - All, with the exception of the goalkeeper, have been first choice players at one time or another. (NT) -- Straw Clutchers Anonymous, Thursday, March 05, 01:11:37pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
Should we make Silva one of the highest paid managers in the league? -- Jake, Thursday, March 05, 09:17:45am (NoHost/64.43.50.46)
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- No. Get rid.... Am fed up of every time we look to be within touching distance of something he thinks he's better than he is and bigger than the club and makes some ridiculous changes to personal, set up, tactics etc. You've taken us as far as you can. Time for us both to move on. Glasner in (NT) -- Carter, Thursday, March 05, 10:26:42am (NoHost/79.173.173.66)
  - Glasner in! and what do you think is attractive to Glasner in his career progression, that would make Fulham FC the move he wanted? His only ambition at fulham would be winning another domestic cup. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, March 05, 10:42:07am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
    - Glasner was wanted by the best and perhaps fortunately for us has made himself somewhat less appealing with his recent behaviour. There are going to be a lot of big managers about after the WC and Glasner may find that he is not as desireable as he once was. This is the only way we will be able to get a manager to punch below his weiaght and capable of winning something. Is it too much to ask to win something just for once? (NT) -- Carter, Thursday, March 05, 11:08:14am (NoHost/79.173.173.66)
      - That's optimistic. In the fullness of time will owners give a toss about what Glasner said? He's an above average coach at a bang average club. Of course top clubs will want him. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, March 05, 03:11:16pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
        
        If I was Khan, i'd be chucking absolutely everything I could to get Iraola through the door tbh. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, March 05, 03:19:59pm (NoHost/81.79.78.26)
        
        I agree with this... and he's out of contract as well. After the Frank debacle, Spurs will want someone a lot more high profile, so other than Man Utd, should leave us with a chance, and if Utd get him, I'd take Carrick. (NT) -- SCA, Thursday, March 05, 03:34:11pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
        Yes a great coach, but same with Glasner, why would he move sideways? (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, March 05, 03:54:21pm (92.40.169.131.threembb.co.uk/92.40.169.131)
        
        London, seemingly ambitious plans, over double the ground capacity he's currently at... sell him the project, it's what Americans are good at isn't it? (NT) -- SCA, Thursday, March 05, 04:13:25pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
        I honestly don't think we're sidewways from Bournemouth. Our ground holds almost 3 times as many people, for a start. They're punching above their weight way, way more than we are. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, March 05, 04:40:04pm (NoHost/81.79.78.26)
        
        By your own metric, attendance size is an irrelevance econonmically speaking. They consistently beat us at their place and finish in similar if not higher positions. So for me that is sideways at best.. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, March 05, 07:06:31pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
        
        I think all of those things happen because they have a better manager, personally. So, we're reasonably 'flat' in performance terms with them over the last 10 years (they have the edge if anything), but we're still the bigger club. We've beaten Spurs 4 of the last 6 times we've played, only lost once and look set to finish above them for successive seasons - that doesn't mean we're the bigger club. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, March 06, 09:34:07am (85-115-43-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.43.2)
        
        Historically yes, we have been a team who have consistently maintained a higher place in the football league. However as things stand now I think we are much more even, and have been since coming back up to the PL. Yes their coach is excellent, but so is ours. If you are comparing net worth of each club it appears that we are worth more, but will some of that be due to location and the new stand? (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Friday, March 06, 09:51:59am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
        
        Again, my argument isn't about what each club is worth. But by every metric, other than concentrating on a very, very recent bias - we're much bigger. Average league postion? - a division and a half higher. Average attendance? (total, historical), - more than double. Years in top flight? - Almost 4 times as many. Cups? Far, far more pedigree. Theyve had 15 years in the top 2 divisions, we've had 86. I just can't see any possible rationale for suggesting we're not a much bigger club. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, March 06, 10:07:12am (85-115-43-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.43.2)
        
        Do those historical metrics really matter to an upcoming coach looking to improve his CV? He might consider our location and our stadium, but beyond that do we have a better infrastructure, a better squad, better resources for recruiting the right players? (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Friday, March 06, 10:18:23am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
        
        Depends whether or not its a long term project (in his eyes) or not. If it is, then yes, i think it matters - the larger club, historically - will be seen to have the higher threshold. Look at it another way. If neither club currently had managers, and a manager had applied for the job at both, and got offered both, which would you expect him to take? I'd be really disappointed if the answer wasn't us. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, March 06, 10:33:38am (85-115-43-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.43.2)
        
        As for your initial dismissal of attendance as a metric - we're not talking economically, are we? I'm not saying having 3 times the capacity gives us bundles more spending power, i'm saying it indicates that we're a far bigger club. Historical league positions, performance, time in respective divisions etc all point to the same. IMHO of course. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, March 06, 09:49:04am (85-115-43-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.43.2)
        
        Yes I'd like their coach at Fulham. I think currently he tactically has Silva in his pocket. Let's hope that changes in a few weeks time. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Friday, March 06, 09:55:16am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
        
        160v180m revenue, don’t have many chances to take a top job, no way he’d be come, same as Frank wouldn’t have pre Spurs. You don’t go sideways if you’re stock is high, they have plans to upsize stadium, have a very young and exciting squad, great place to live too. I’d consider Frank, but there will be lots of good managers interested, FFC is a really good job, if silva thinks he’s taken us as far as he can, fine, but it will be an opportunity for the club, id be excited. (NT) -- Henry1879, Thursday, March 05, 08:23:51pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- We were undone by a team that pressed and set up not to lose. Just like the Everton game we were not inventive enough. Passing to players facing our goal, backwards and sideways even on 90 mins. (NT) -- no plan B, Thursday, March 05, 10:37:45am (host31-50-73-241.range31-50.btcentralplus.com/31.50.73.241)
  - That’s as maybe but it certainly doesn’t help fielding a lightweight non-aggressive CM who were never going to impose themselves on more physical opponents . ‘Freshening up ‘ positions was how Silva described it , but for me way way too many changes considering our next PL Game is 10 days away and our Cup Opponents are from a lower league (NT) -- Mickey, Thursday, March 05, 10:46:48am (82-132-229-231.dab.02.net/82.132.229.231)
- Most of the poster on here are happy to exist and never win anything so why not it'll keep them happy (NT) -- same old season, Thursday, March 05, 12:36:02pm (NoHost/217.216.60.27)
- Watching Osulas winner last night, played the ball to the full back and just ran down the wing, didn't need to stop or look behind. Ball played up in front of him, and bingo. We would have knocked it around the back, and waited till Wilson, Kevin, Sammy ESR stopped and faced Leno. (NT) -- ball behind the back 4 is the right one sometimes, Thursday, March 05, 12:42:37pm (host31-50-73-241.range31-50.btcentralplus.com/31.50.73.241)
- After seeing what Palace achieved last season, could Marco and the Team's focus now be on the Cup? Arguably, apart from City, on our day, we can compete with any team and a win on Sunday will see us only one win away from a Wembley semi final and two from playing in the final. They know, only too well, that we completely blew it last season by getting the tactics wrong against Palace, even though they gave us a lesson a few weeks earlier? (NT) -- Ted White, Thursday, March 05, 12:48:11pm (host86-191-229-228.range86-191.btcentralplus.com/86.191.229.228)
  - Possibly but knowing our luck we either lose in the QF or play city in the final and get a bollocking but if by some miracle we do win the fa cup id be over the moon and would be a good send off for silva who has been good for us but now needs to move on (NT) -- off whites, Thursday, March 05, 01:23:46pm (NoHost/217.216.60.27)
Reality -- Kimberly-Clark, Thursday, March 05, 08:45:22am (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
We are a lower middle team that’s the inconsistency of performances you get they can’t all be brilliant one week and not good enough the next. It’s was awful last night especially our distribution. But I’m taking our league position this season particularly when you see some of the Clubs below us.

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- It won’t stop many claiming we are still on for Europe if we win next week. I have always been happy for mid table premier survival any more a bonus. Not to excuse last nights abysmal performance. Maybe next year as we have the makings of a more consistent side. (NT) -- CB, Thursday, March 05, 08:53:59am (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
  - We're starting to sound like Delboy - 'this time next year'... (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, March 05, 09:15:46am (NoHost/81.79.78.26)
    - History has us as a mid to lower table club in the top division at best. How can the club ever break into the top 8 consistently? The PL table positions are now largely as they should be based on the economic potential of each club. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, March 05, 09:28:41am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
      - Nobody is saying we should do it consistently, just take advantage of one of these opportunities. Repeatedly we have no real pressure looking down at relegation, had decent early cup draws enabling us to plot a pretty easy path to 1/4 final stage and we keep either not grasping the opportunities. I agree with SOS, in 5 years it’ll be, just 1 more year of stability. We aren’t a young team, the point of buying experience is it should translate to dealing with pressure games. (NT) -- Henry1879, Thursday, March 05, 09:57:34am (82-132-222-115.dab.02.net/82.132.222.115)
        
        My question was not rhetorical. How can we break into the top 8 even for the odd season or two if the best funded sides are playing to their potential? The trouble with top level football is that it strangles hope for lesser funded clubs. You have to rely on the big clubs imploding, as in the Scottish PL at the moment. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, March 05, 10:26:17am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
        
        Because other clubs on similar budgets to ours have done it and look likely to do it this season? (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, March 05, 10:47:00am (NoHost/81.79.78.26)
        
        Yes maybe for the odd season or two a club like ours can nick a 7th or 8th place. But what do FFC have to change to make this more likely to happen? How are Brentford doing as well as they are? (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, March 05, 11:10:37am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
        
        I think what people want isn’t that consistent top 7, it’s almost impossible given PSR, only way is to turnover 500/600m a year, won’t happen, if ever; for a club like FFC. But we can have a season which a lot of similar clubs have had when you grasp an opportunity and win something or finish 6/7th. We had a couple under Roy, otherwise you end up being England under Southgate, decent, always qualify but come up short in big moments & don’t get over the line. (NT) -- Henry1879, Thursday, March 05, 11:38:17am (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
        
        I'm currently reading a book called 'Expected Goals' by Rory Smith. It's a bit dry as one might imagine, but it gives the history of data driven tactics/recruitment etc in football. I wonder if FFC use data as well as other clubs appear to do, e.g like Brentford and Brighton do. The renewed use of corners and long throws must be data driven surely? Btw I think those two tactics are killing football as a spectacle, so I could understand a coach being puritanical about such. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, March 05, 12:01:54pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
        
        we aren’t planning on winning the league, other teams have done it, almost every one similar to us. WHU conference win, palace FA cup, BHA Europe recently, forest in Europe, these are our direct rivals, not FFP top 6 out of reach revenue giants. I really hope I’m wrong, but we almost implode at times in the key moments, or just put in a nothing game, (Utd cup, Everton, WHU home etc). If we are losing to a top team I can live with that, but these are opportunities that can br grasped. (NT) -- Henry1879, Thursday, March 05, 10:53:19am (82-132-222-115.dab.02.net/82.132.222.115)
      - Are you serious! The table based on economic potential looks nothing like the current table (NT) -- The Drobe, Thursday, March 05, 01:58:47pm (host109-152-205-24.range109-152.btcentralplus.com/109.152.205.24)
        
        Yes. the top 6 are not far off what you would expect it to be by worth. Villa are the interlopers. It's only Spurs and Newcastle who are underperforming, and Brentford over performing. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Friday, March 06, 10:08:33am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
  - Definitely still on for Europe. The cup + 8th is still very much doable. Two weeks ago people were saying we were about to be in a relegation scrap! Things change fast. It's not like any of the teams around us have been consistent and immune from dropping points randomly. Lukic back, Muniz + Jedi with more miles since injury, only player out is Kevin and that's in one of our deepest positions. Manager still has things to learn, but he's only 47, less than half-way through his managerial career. (NT) -- eganonoa, Thursday, March 05, 09:16:44am (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
    - Nobody sane was saying relegation, bookies had us shortest at probs 30/1. This point of having no relegation pressure and hardly any injuries (again) makes it even more frustrating. I hope I’m wrong, but just feels like a repeated pattern of knocked out first time we play a really good team in a cup, almost Englsnd under Southgate, and taper off when 7/8th is a real possibility, but as you say it’s all still there on the table, just don’t trust we’ll step up when needed. (NT) -- Henry1879, Thursday, March 05, 10:22:40am (82-132-222-115.dab.02.net/82.132.222.115)
      - Oh go back through the archives. Some very sane posters on here were raising it. (NT) -- eganonoa, Thursday, March 05, 02:37:52pm (NoHost/217.75.196.3)
    - IMO, we currently have the best squad/manager set up in our history. Better than the teams around us. A few adjustments in the summer are all that's needed. Then I recall that being the case on several occasions. I somehow think that at last the Khans understand that and will be more flexible this summer. (NT) -- CB Silva still a? mark, Thursday, March 05, 10:29:36am (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
- No team has drawn less games than us so that really does prove we are either all or nothing (NT) -- Waterboy, Thursday, March 05, 09:04:06am (NoHost/90.242.53.3)
On the beach. This is exactly the time last year when are form dipped till the end of the season with only one or two decent performances to close out the season. I mean "decent" not what we had seen earlier in the season. Something with the mentality of this group is off. Plenty of talent, but a shortage of grit and graft. -- RR, Thursday, March 05, 01:58:25am (NoHost/104.220.143.92)
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- Re: On the beach. This is exactly the time last year when are form dipped till the end of the season with only one or two decent performances to close out the season. I mean "decent" not what we had seen earlier in the season. Something with the mentality of this group is off. Plenty of talent, but a shortage of grit and graft. (NT) -- Don’t agree we are on the Beach., Thursday, March 05, 08:48:27am (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
Wont bother going over the game -- Same old story, Thursday, March 05, 12:14:12am (NoHost/148.252.157.191)
As we could all see how bad it was, but i, and many around me, called it as a likely result as soon as we saw the teamsheet. Horrible selection and didnt improve from there.
I’m now looking forward to the summer and what we need to do, as we’re clearly blowing europe in the league and the fa cup has dissapointing quarter final defeat to a mid prem side written all over it.

So after having a nice 120 mile drive home to mull things over this is where i am.
1) new keeper and leno out of the door. We just cant afford to be spending £7m a year on wages for someone to keep chucking games.
2) i really hate to say it but i’d possibly start looking at moving king on. The resultant impact on SCR would be really useful and he’s just not having any output whatsoever, no goals, no assists.
3) i’d be less sure about signing Chuckwueze based on post afcon performance so far. Still 8 games to evaluate but not the gimme i thought it was.
4) Not sure whats going on with muniz either. I know he’s rusty etc etc but he just looks completely ineffective.
5) As others have said, i’m fine with silva signing, but not overly bothered if he doesnt. He needs to decide one way or another though so we can either plan for succession or not.
6) we need more central midfield options, because when Berge is completely off it like tonight, what can we actually do at the moment?

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- I agree with everything posted here. I would add that Cairney has to call it a day. Berge just isn’t good enough. CF gonna give us the biggest headache tho imho, I don’t think the two we have are up to it and it’s such a hard position to fill. I do think we have some real reliable quality in the squad and are looking really exciting with a couple of good signings. (NT) -- Just visiting, Thursday, March 05, 01:24:32am (host86-168-84-174.range86-168.btcentralplus.com/86.168.84.174)
  - Berge was poor last night for sure, but absolutely immense on Sunday against Spurs. You could say the same about many of the players. The rollercoaster nature of our form is utterly bizarre and sits with the manager (NT) -- Fkev, Thursday, March 05, 07:41:34am (142.236.147.147.dyn.plus.net/147.147.236.142)
- Muniz and Jedi totally off it coming back from injury. Just have to wait and use their good alternates. King's the new Andreas. 10 or an 8? I'd say an 8 but not strong enough to be one. As a 10, good in the press, but not quite enough end product. That was Andreas and like him could take a while to arrive. Chuckwaeze is looking the 2nd coming of Manor Solomon, but still some incredible passes the 1st 30 minutes. Cairney and Berge are too slow and soft together. Each needs an engine nextdoor. (NT) -- eganonoa, Thursday, March 05, 05:00:24am (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
- Barring the King one agree with all that. Just turned 19 and think this kid could be something else, agree that he needs to start having more of an impact. Leno been deteriorating year on year for me. Was outstanding first season but nowhere near that level now. Chuk hasn't looked the same since AFCON, losing his mother a factor maybe?. Muniz just doesn't look fit full stop and think he's always going to be one of those streaky players where it's feast or famine (NT) -- TSW, Thursday, March 05, 06:13:10am (NoHost/31.94.72.27)
- Should have cashed in on Muniz. Can't keep buying project players like Kevin and Bobb. We need players who can perform now. Silva can go - do we really want him one of the highest paid managers in the league? (NT) -- Jake villanova, Thursday, March 05, 06:35:58am (NoHost/64.43.132.173)
- Re: Wont bother going over the game -- Cal, Thursday, March 05, 06:47:35am (33beec5a.skybroadband.com/51.190.236.90)
- Brilliant post SOS, absolutely spot on. (NT) -- Spencer, Thursday, March 05, 08:08:53am (NoHost/2.126.137.25)
- CM has always been where the game is won and lost, we ended the game with poor Iwobi there on his own! I agree, new keeper has been needed for a while, along with natural goal scorers. Think i see Cuenca as more reliable at the moment as well (NT) -- Waterboy, Thursday, March 05, 09:07:30am (NoHost/90.242.53.3)
- Yes Leno shoud be sold, his stats suggest that. How about loaning King to a decent championship club to develop his game? Chukueweisi's Mother has just died so he might not have a clear head. Muniz just needs a goal. Jedi's physical/psychological well being? We need a decent attacking midfielder! (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, March 05, 09:23:54am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
  - King - possibly, but we may need the fiscal input now to improve other areas and a loan doesn't do that. Chuck - possibly, in which case its on the manager not to keep selecting him. However his career stats suggest he may have just defaulted to the norm. Muniz - not sure, it doesn't look like confidence, literally nothing is working. Jedi - not sure of your point here, he's just been crap for 3 months. Again, if too fragile, then manager should take him out of the lineup. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, March 05, 10:09:33am (NoHost/81.79.78.26)
    - Re: Robinson. I wonder if he doesn't believe his body is in the same peak condition as it was in the pre injury phase. They must do physical tests to make sure his body is working properly? And at the end of the day the only arena Robinson can truly test this is in a PL match. As for Silva's selection process. Would he not go on advice from his team, and from what he sees in the training matches? (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, March 05, 10:35:02am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
      - I don't think our league performance should suffer so we can try to get our left back back up to a decent level. More sensible to start with the performing one and bring AR on later in the game if possible. Not sure why you're asking me the second part - the evidence of last night is that he got it clearly wrong. Thats not hindsight when plenty of people said so as soon as the teams were out. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, March 05, 11:01:35am (NoHost/81.79.78.26)
        
        I have to say, pre game i thought it was the right choice, Sess hasn't been brilliant the last few games- had a torrid time at Sunderland defensively and again v Spurs when he left Richarlison to head in. Robinson did ok v Bowen to be fair but with the ball poor bar one or two good crosses at the end. (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Thursday, March 05, 11:17:40am (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
        
        re Sess - He hasn't been brilliant but he's still offered far more than Robinson in recent weeks, and hasn't been actively breaking our moves down like Robinson has. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, March 05, 12:26:29pm (NoHost/81.79.78.26)
        
        Sess was dire v S.land, gets bit of a pass from many due to his history & because we won. Even if not great now only one of them has been a top prem LB and young enough to re-find it. Thought he did some great defending at back post last night, hardly gave Bowen a sniff, whereas summerville gave Tete a tough time. Sess will, imo, be a bit part player, ok at a few things, but doesn’t excel at a lot and can do a job at times but not much more than that. (NT) -- Henry1879, Thursday, March 05, 08:32:34pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
        
        And yet, for all you say (and no, i don't agree with it all), he's still been significantly the better option in the last 2 months. I'd personally try to get money in for Robinson, let one of our right backs go, and try to bring in a starting full back on either side. But again, this goes back to the King point, we may need to sell him to facilitate that kind of shuffle. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, March 06, 09:46:44am (85-115-43-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.43.2)
        
        Tbh my eyebrows lifted when I saw the line. but I was more concerned about Cairney starting and King replacing ESR. As for Robinson my thinking was that he must come good soon, but now I am beginning to wonder if that's true. I didn't attend last night due to Norovirus, so any constructive feedback on Robinson's performance would be good. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, March 05, 11:50:20am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
        
        He's improved since the performance at Leeds where he gave possibly the worst full back performance ive seen in a good couple of decades. But still looks miles off it. His decision making in the final third was really poor, his positioning still very questionable, and he had another 2 of those moments where he rushed into a tackle/interception that he HAD to make else he left a gaping hole and in both occasions he didn't make them. Maybe his body is letting him down in those circumstances. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, March 05, 12:24:53pm (NoHost/81.79.78.26)
        
        Thanks. There's something not quite right about his return after injury. Why would he lose his sense of judgement for timing tackles so quickly? Has he got the World Cup on his mind? (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, March 05, 03:16:23pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
        He was abysmal at AV a couple of seasons ago.You would have wondered how he ever became a Premier League Footballer.Of course he has been pretty good overall. (NT) -- HemelRog, Thursday, March 05, 06:16:35pm (host81-129-180-49.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.49)
- Hard to disagree with any of that. Leno is costing points, so drop from the team. I've been saying that for a long time (when every shot from outside the area went in). His shot saving percentage is 19th in the division. King, he just doesn't look or appear strong enough which may be an age thing but his frame is particularly scrawny. I'd be all over signing Chuk yeah his form has dipped but he's an exciting player that can be a match winner. Andre from Wolves may be the Berge alternative... (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Thursday, March 05, 10:06:18am (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
- As much as Iwobi seems to have found his home, ESR hasn't. His first touch was atrocious last night. (NT) -- Ronnie Gibson's Pedantic Elbow, Thursday, March 05, 11:06:09am (cpc107643-gill19-2-0-cust94.20-1.cable.virginm.net/81.105.102.95)
  - He wasn't alone. It was basic stuff wasn't it - Cairney, usually so dependable with the ball misplacing passes left and right, Berge the same - his touch and distribution was for the most part dreadful. I really don't understand the point in having Lukic and Reed on the bench if, despite our entire central midfield having such stinkers, we're subbing on/off full backs and wingers instead. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, March 05, 12:29:35pm (NoHost/81.79.78.26)
- Mr K do you know that everypost you make includes a question or 2. Don’t think I’ve ever noticed that before. (NT) -- WayneKerrins, Thursday, March 05, 06:12:59pm (host109-154-204-155.range109-154.btcentralplus.com/109.154.204.155)
  - There's some intention in that. It was part and parcel of a previous job role for 12 years, and I think sometimes it's better to ellicit others thoughts than being inflexible about my own theories or others theories. Also it's a method of getting a better understanding. I wish more would do the same. There might be less points scoring on here. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, March 05, 07:19:24pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
    - I'd absolutely do the same where a topic is subjective, because perspective is important and people being unwilling to alter preconcieved notions based on new evidence is a big reason as to why the world is absolutely fucked. But factual conversations? I tend not to get involved, unless i point blank know the fact/subject (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, March 06, 09:53:00am (85-115-43-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.43.2)
      - Would you say it's absolutely fucked, or mostly fucked ; ) (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Friday, March 06, 10:04:16am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
        
        I think its mostly fucked. I think there are pockets of it that probably aren't, but they seem to be reducing daily. Sad thing is, most of us just want to be able to get on with our lives in a decent way, not cause anyone else harm or distress - we just have different ideas as to how thats possible. But all of that well meaning intent is being pitched against each other by the people pulling the strings. I understand the lyrics of the seminal EP 'The Reptile House' far better now than i ever did (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, March 06, 10:11:15am (85-115-43-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.43.2)
        
        Just looked at them - apocolyptic! (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Friday, March 06, 10:25:09am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
        
        Its a phenomenal piece of music. You may listen to it and feel like you need a shower afterwards, but its exceptional, and very unlike the stuff they became famous for. As Eldritch said on a note to John Peel - people generally need about half a dozen listens to really understand what they're trying to do. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, March 06, 10:37:26am (85-115-43-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.43.2)
Hope -- Eerwah, Thursday, March 05, 12:08:00am (customer.brseaus1.isp.starlink.com/168.140.255.252)
With 40 points banked, nowhere squad ready for Europe, lacking real tenacity or ability for transfer rectify, strategic moves for finding out personnel limits may be the way to prepare for next Premiership season. Sunday's fixture contains instant value and perhaps might explain.

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The flatness of that performance -- Mickey, Wednesday, March 04, 10:42:13pm (82-132-213-179.dab.02.net/82.132.213.179)
had a lot to do with that horrendous CM starting Combination . Lightweights King and Cairney thrown in with the passive Berge against a physically strong opponent who were not going to relinquish control . Sess left out for the currently way off the pace disappointing Jedi! ESR inexplicably dropped and Iwobi moved out wide left !! Bobb not starting !! What was the rationale behind Silva’s thinking ??? Yet again an over -elaboration in our build up play allowing time for them to comfortably contain us ! Much as I gave championed Silva , he got it badly wrong tonight . Self inflicted problems from giving the ball away cheaply continue to surface as frustrations grow when we can’t break down a team.

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- Re: The flatness of that performance (NT) -- +1 CHB, Wednesday, March 04, 10:52:02pm (ip-203-211-77-38.as45177.net/203.211.77.38)
- Totally agree (NT) -- Chesh, Wednesday, March 04, 11:36:06pm (NoHost/23.90.184.133)
Can’t lie… -- bs, Wednesday, March 04, 10:42:09pm (82-132-220-250.dab.02.net/82.132.220.250)
Seriously enjoying the Spurs meltdown 😂

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- Yeah if they weren't playing us I would have be begging for a west ham win tonight! 😃 (NT) -- Greenpole, Wednesday, March 04, 10:45:22pm (82-132-218-122.dab.02.net/82.132.218.122)
Waste of an evening -- Going, Wednesday, March 04, 10:19:54pm (host109-148-24-107.range109-148.btcentralplus.com/109.148.24.107)
Two poor sides. I like King but he needs to build his physique so easily bustled iff the ball. Muniz clearly ring rusty. Leno the WHU saviour yet again. TC should have had a pen but after they scored we looked poor. Silva either underestimated West H or overestimated our level and our consistency
Need a reaction on Sunday.

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- Re: Waste of an evening (NT) -- King & ESR on the field together worth a go, Thursday, March 05, 06:46:01am (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
Shocked at the vitriol on here! -- Alboy, Wednesday, March 04, 10:08:04pm (NoHost/148.252.146.71)
We win two games and we're on our way to Europe. We lose a game and we are rubbish and so is the Manager. Typical knee knee jerk reactions! We should have beaten them We didn't. Move on get ready for next game cheer up.

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- Well it was an absolutely terrible performance at a moment of real hope. The flattest we've seen the players this season and it's inexplicable. I know you don't think they are, but people are entitled to have a moan, even if much of it is OTT. (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, March 04, 10:18:07pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
- Re: Shocked at the vitriol on here! (NT) -- We played like we’ve been on the piss., Wednesday, March 04, 10:18:13pm (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
- Dont think any true supporter could honestly think we would get a spot in europe (NT) -- Waterboy, Wednesday, March 04, 10:18:33pm (NoHost/85.255.234.51)
- Wasn't great, games like that happen, changes didn't help and missed Harry, nothing seemed to come off tonight. That said josh shot well saved just before half time and Timmy's near the end, again credit the keeper. Sure the mood will change again if we get past the saints on Sunday. (NT) -- Sw18ffc, Wednesday, March 04, 10:24:11pm (host-81-179-249-237.as13285.net/81.179.249.237)
- We were never going to Europe not with this squad and manager the last 3 seasons have proved we don't have the mentality for it we make-up the numbers in the league simple as that we go on a decent cup run and like clockwork we bottle that calling it now we beat Southampton and lose the quarters (NT) -- The same, Wednesday, March 04, 10:25:44pm (NoHost/147.93.215.114)
- Predictable post Alboy. Any passionate Fulham fan would be disgusted by that performance and driven to vent feelings. Manager got it wrong (again) but players apart from Raul were awful against such a poor side. (NT) -- CB, Thursday, March 05, 08:13:44am (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
- Why should we have beaten them? (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Thursday, March 05, 08:57:23am (host86-142-67-240.range86-142.btcentralplus.com/86.142.67.240)
I wasn't there tonight and it didn't sound good -- Beano Reader, Wednesday, March 04, 09:54:33pm (host-92-19-68-124.as13285.net/92.19.68.124)
However, if that's the end of the season as far as you are concerned and Silva is Satan, then don't bother turning up Sunday. My attendance, for personal reasons, is much reduced but I am up for the cup on Sunday. If that goes pear shaped, maybe one or two games before this season is over. And, after 40+ years, who knows when, if ever, again. Overpriced, boring modern football and a support base I'm growing to despise. I don't feel good about this, ask SoS who knows how long I've followed this club. But hey ho.

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How disappointing -- Henry1879, Wednesday, March 04, 09:48:46pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
The last couple of weeks just about sums it up. Beat spurs and the hopes rise; is this the season, is this the one we turn a good season into a special season, is this where we go, no we aren’t going to stumble along to 12/13th, but kick on and finish 7th/8th and Europe awaits, it’s the hope that kills you. West Ham are decent, certainly better now under Nuno than early season, player for player they’ve got a really decent team, Fernandes, Bowen, summerville, diof, todibo, they’ve got some class players, but that game was there to win. We seem to go into our shell at big times when we seem to gain momentum, Leeds away and Everton at home spring to mind, the pressure should be off, we could be aggressive and really go front foot but we just wilt a bit and almost look scared to lose.

Some odd tactical ones, king is just not strong enough at the moment, any physical contact and he gets knocked off the ball, missed ESR knitting attacks together. Not sure why we diverged from what worked well v spurs, but even with the players who started they just didn’t have urgency until game was in the last 10 minutes. Chuk was almost anonymous, where’s that free flowing brilliant player we saw glimpses of. Only attacking player who comes out with any credit is raul, our attack looked directionless after he went off, thought he was having a superb game and didn’t looked tired at all.

Thought it was a nailed on pen to them for handball, hit his bicep to my eyes, the Fernandez one the ref bottled, didn’t think it was a foul, but when he gave it surely it’s a yellow, it’s never just a foul. Also thought it wasn’t a pen on Cairney, fine with them over turning it. Maybe it’s harsh, this is a tough league, it’s hard to keep winning, but just feels again we are letting opportunities slip through our fingers.

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- This is what we are. How often this season have we been clearly better or worse than our opponents? Usually there's nothing much in it so we win some and lose some. As often as not the wins include a spectacular goal and the defeats a cock up in defence. Endearingly though we take each win as a sign of wonders to come whilst defeats are a sure sign of our uselessness. I'm off to bed. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Wednesday, March 04, 09:59:52pm (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
- ESR doesnt do anything as sub and should start, Chuk seems to be opposite (NT) -- Waterboy, Wednesday, March 04, 10:23:45pm (NoHost/85.255.234.51)
Excellent result!! -- Jari’s Mullet, Wednesday, March 04, 09:35:26pm (170.pool90-167-166.dynamic.orange.es/90.167.166.170)
I really want Spurs to go down.

We would have bollocksed europe anyway.

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Why -- Depressed, Wednesday, March 04, 09:34:45pm (host86-134-226-60.range86-134.btcentralplus.com/86.134.226.60)
As Wilson was injured only change should have been to bring in Chuck and play same system as Sunday. I have reached the point where I could not care less if Silva leaves.

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- We only pass to players with their back to the opposition goal. (NT) -- Grim, Wednesday, March 04, 10:05:23pm (82-132-236-168.dab.02.net/82.132.236.168)
Fifth game this season Silva’s tinkering has cost us what is he doing Muniz is nowhere near ready why take Raul off we were absolute pony couldn’t pass 2 yards to each other chuck awful terrible Berge terrible Cairney terrible king terrible Leno terrible command the situation Robinson looks done at the top level shadow of the player . -- Button, Wednesday, March 04, 09:34:22pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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Abysmal rubbish -- Ffc, Wednesday, March 04, 09:28:04pm (97e1e33c.skybroadband.com/151.225.227.60)
Well done Fulham that’s the league season finished
Get the chance to have a push for European football and we put in a dreadful performance…. Totally wrong starting eleven …. ESR , Bobb totally invisible when they come on … Chukwueze is certainly no Harry Wilson is he
No fight no passion no aggression… against a puss poor West Ham

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- This has happened the last 3 seasons under silva why are we sacrificing a run in where we can get Europe for a manger who won't sign a new deal refuses to improve and has olmo tactical knowledge? The fact he's considered by some as our greatest manager are insane and need to check in to the asylum (NT) -- Off ya pop silva, Wednesday, March 04, 09:33:42pm (NoHost/147.93.215.116)
- Re: Abysmal rubbish -- Mr Angry, Wednesday, March 04, 09:35:21pm (host86-130-106-88.range86-130.btcentralplus.com/86.130.106.88)
- One loss and the league season is finished.FFS. (NT) -- HemelRog, Wednesday, March 04, 09:36:21pm (host81-129-180-49.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.49)
  - Well it is ……we’re not going down…..we’re not getting into a European place…….we are staying where we are mid table ……SO ITS FINISHED (NT) -- Ffc, Wednesday, March 04, 09:43:34pm (97e1e33c.skybroadband.com/151.225.227.60)
    - Ridiculous hyperbole as usual. (NT) -- HemelRog, Wednesday, March 04, 09:46:27pm (host81-129-180-49.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.49)
      - Come on them “rose tinted Fulham boy”. Where’s our season going to take us on our last 9 games ????? (NT) -- Ffc, Wednesday, March 04, 09:58:03pm (97e1e33c.skybroadband.com/151.225.227.60)
        
        Like you I haven’t a clue.It’s great being an adult though. (NT) -- HemelRog, Wednesday, March 04, 10:02:25pm (host81-129-180-49.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.49)
        
        Jesus your a fucking clown (NT) -- Ffc, Wednesday, March 04, 10:07:04pm (97e1e33c.skybroadband.com/151.225.227.60)
        
        I’ve supported this club since 58 Coco and that’s why I don’t overreact to one loss as if it is the end of the world. (NT) -- HemelRog, Wednesday, March 04, 10:21:21pm (host81-129-180-49.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.49)
        
        I think older generation fans like you are the reason this club standstill while other move forward the club knows this therefore don't care same with the manger and players shame is like us to experience Europe again instead of existing in the league to make up numbers (NT) -- Clocks ticking, Wednesday, March 04, 10:09:19pm (NoHost/147.93.215.114)
        
        HaHa I’m a shit manager. (NT) -- HemelRog, Wednesday, March 04, 10:24:02pm (host81-129-180-49.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.49)
- FFC have tonight banned all supporters over 50 to enable the club to push on to higher echelons. And any further defeats the club will then extend the ban to over 40s. (NT) -- FFC age inspector., Wednesday, March 04, 10:26:01pm (NoHost/94.2.243.131)
  - They don't need to ban you guys I'm sure the winter will take care of you when the heating bills rise least then the club gets the season ticket money (NT) -- get instillation, Wednesday, March 04, 10:29:01pm (NoHost/147.93.215.114)
    - The club will further the ban to the under 16s if results continue to falter (NT) -- You best pray for wins then., Wednesday, March 04, 10:53:00pm (NoHost/94.2.243.131)
      - Was nice of your care home to let you stay up late for the game back to bed now though old man you got to be up early to yell at the clouds (NT) -- Clocks ticking, Wednesday, March 04, 11:12:32pm (NoHost/217.216.60.120)
The worst performance of the season by a country mile players believing there own hype utter 💩 -- Button, Wednesday, March 04, 09:28:02pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- In depth analysis from Kew Bridge. (NT) -- HemelRog, Wednesday, March 04, 09:48:00pm (host81-129-180-49.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.49)
  - You say this yet in previous comments you're content with our inconsistency and poor form which makes me thinks you're projecting quite a bit I'm sure Brentford have a forum you can post on instead of cosplaying as a fan of ours strange behaviour (NT) -- Interesting, Wednesday, March 04, 11:10:05pm (87-120-102-205.madcom.al/87.120.102.205)
    - I support the club through thick and thin.It gives you a sense of perspective.This board has become full of WUMS,Trolls and supporters of QPRLite.Pathetic. (NT) -- HemelRog, Wednesday, March 04, 11:18:26pm (host81-129-180-49.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.49)
      - So because fans want more they're considered fake fans? Great logic although when we win you seem to be nowhere but when we lose you only comment on negative posts to call the trolls etc it's like you're projecting so much since you're embarrassed you support such a nothing club like Brentford or qpr it's sad I hope you get the help you need (NT) -- troll u r, Wednesday, March 04, 11:30:36pm (NoHost/217.216.60.120)
        
        Ha not big on logic then.Why would a Biter or QPRLite look for Fulham positives?Seen more Fulham games than you have had hot dinners sunshine. (NT) -- HemekRog, Wednesday, March 04, 11:43:11pm (host81-129-180-49.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.49)
        
        Clearly you're not big on logic because why would any logical and normal fan of a rival club go on their forum to troll, also I doubt you've been to more games as you only play us once a season you could only dream of being like us back to whatever crevice you crawled out from (NT) -- Actual bus wanker, Wednesday, March 04, 11:57:15pm (NoHost/147.93.215.98)
        
        I’m in the thousands you total weirdo.Including friendlies,SE Counties,Football Combination and nearly every ground.But I expect you more or less know that. (NT) -- HemelRog, Thursday, March 05, 12:08:17am (host81-129-180-49.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.49)
        
        Sure you have it's funny since you clearly believe the shit you type like I said spending your evenings on a rivals forum is embarrassing you've prolly been to cottage on an away day and that's it stop pretending and realise you live on the bus stop you're a freak now back to the shithole of harrow (NT) -- loser behaviour, Thursday, March 05, 12:22:08am (NoHost/147.93.215.98)
        
        Not sure if you are Brentford or Army.Possibly both.Most of them are.Sweet dreams. (NT) -- HemelRog, Thursday, March 05, 12:46:52am (host81-129-180-49.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.49)
        
        Classic now apparently I'm a Brentford fan because you've been called out brilliant, you don't go to games you sit in your chair and troll on this forum all day all night that's your sad reality now go to bed and get ready for you game against West Ham on Monday (NT) -- Back to the bus stop, Thursday, March 05, 12:53:29am (NoHost/147.93.215.98)
        
        I thought Eddie Dillsworth might make it how about you?oh yep you haven’t a clue who he is.Mmmm. (NT) -- HemelRog, Thursday, March 05, 06:53:53am (host81-129-180-49.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.49)
- You don’t think that was the worst Fulham have played this season you need to go specsavers we were utterly utterly clueless and dreadful couldn’t pass the ball two yards . Silva is 💯 to blame (NT) -- Button, Wednesday, March 04, 11:29:00pm (NoHost/148.252.146.40)
  - Didn’t go due to illness.My son said we were terrible.Didn’t actually think the selection was too clever.It’s just the silly over the top reaction does my head in.We have a promising but still slightly flawed squad. I (NT) -- HemelRog, Wednesday, March 04, 11:49:10pm (host81-129-180-49.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.49)
Robinson -- ., Wednesday, March 04, 09:27:59pm (NoHost/104.28.88.140)
Haven't seen him pass the salt all season. Shocking footballer.

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- Totally focused on the World Cup and nothing else...really poor from him tonight. (NT) -- JK69, Wednesday, March 04, 09:33:41pm (0540c3cb.skybroadband.com/5.64.195.203)
Oscar Bobb...is this another player we need to wait for 2 seasons to come good? -- Jake villanova, Wednesday, March 04, 09:22:02pm (NoHost/64.43.159.84)
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- Not if Silva goes this summer, he sucks the talent out of players. (NT) -- Cutler 22, Wednesday, March 04, 09:35:58pm (customer.sfiabgr1.isp.starlink.com/150.228.63.222)
Can the silva riders defend this? Why did we need so many changes why did he not see West Ham's game plan and decide to pack the midfield he doesn't care about the club he's only stay for the pay check -- Mr inconsistent, Wednesday, March 04, 09:21:59pm (NoHost/147.93.215.116)
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Terrible shocking can’t pass the ball no movement awful this result is on Silva why take off Raul he was the only one that look like he cared 😡 -- Button, Wednesday, March 04, 09:05:18pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- Wilson out, Chuck back in. Was the only change needed. Maybe Robinson for sess but that maintains the shape and style we've been so good with. Did the same at Leeds and it's cost us again (NT) -- Me, Wednesday, March 04, 09:21:19pm (host86-151-207-147.range86-151.btcentralplus.com/86.151.207.147)
Mr Inconsistent strikes again wherever he goes! Silva you think you are better than the club, then go! -- Fulham Russ, Wednesday, March 04, 09:01:00pm (NoHost/31.94.72.181)
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The better team, but very disjointed. -- HE, Wednesday, March 04, 08:21:14pm (lewi-28-b2-v4wan-166893-cust665.vm4.cable.virginm.net/86.16.2.154)
Think either Lukic or ESR into CM or Chuk moved onto the left needed.

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- Another disaster defence wise (NT) -- Depressed, Wednesday, March 04, 08:56:26pm (host86-134-226-60.range86-134.btcentralplus.com/86.134.226.60)
Berge, chuck and Robinson need to pull their socks up and find a white shirt. -- Cutler 22, Wednesday, March 04, 08:01:30pm (customer.sfiabgr1.isp.starlink.com/150.228.63.222)
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- Raul immense. (NT) -- CB, Wednesday, March 04, 08:06:09pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
Mind blown why make so many changes I think Cairney is going to get dispossessed a lot he isn’t good when he is getting pressed high . Silva does some weird things sometimes I will trust his judgement COYW 🔥⚽️ -- Button, Wednesday, March 04, 07:00:42pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- I don't think Nuno goes in for the high press. Not really something I really associate with his teams. Linked inside is a good BBC article on his style. -- eganonoa, Wednesday, March 04, 07:21:26pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
  - is there a moore boring know it all? (NT) -- king is so poor and SLOW (king or carve .. its obvious!), Wednesday, March 04, 07:53:28pm (ns565314.ip-54-39-133.net/54.39.133.107)
- There you go I was right all them changes messed us up the result is on Silva 💯. Worst performance of the season Southgate will be rubbing there hands together (NT) -- Button, Wednesday, March 04, 09:38:20pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
  - Are they going to win the Barnet Sunday League. (NT) -- HemelRog, Wednesday, March 04, 09:52:49pm (host81-129-180-49.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.49)
I hope these changes don't backfire, not sure what Silva is thinking making the changes! -- Cutler 22, Wednesday, March 04, 06:22:24pm (customer.sfiabgr1.isp.starlink.com/150.228.63.222)
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- Likely, simply, managing minutes given the fixture congestion (NT) -- RR, Wednesday, March 04, 06:25:12pm (NoHost/104.220.143.92)
  - There is no fixture congestion. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Wednesday, March 04, 07:05:19pm (NoHost/31.94.74.110)
    - Important game for the club on Sunday, no ? (NT) -- FFC in Brighton., Wednesday, March 04, 08:22:59pm (NoHost/147.148.103.134)
    - Really? (NT) -- RR, Wednesday, March 04, 08:29:32pm (NoHost/104.220.143.92)
      - Ask Hammersmithender (NT) -- FFC in Brighton, Wednesday, March 04, 09:05:20pm (NoHost/147.148.103.134)
        
        Can't these super fit modern players play games 4 days apart then. This modern myth needs to stop. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Wednesday, March 04, 09:50:42pm (NoHost/31.94.74.110)
      - One already planned mid week game does not equal fixture congestion. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Wednesday, March 04, 10:01:59pm (NoHost/31.94.74.110)
- Well Wilson limped off on Sunday, so I assume he is injured, bit surprised by ESR though. (NT) -- GTS, Wednesday, March 04, 06:29:38pm (NoHost/94.14.186.219)
- same as he did for leeds, we get a decent run going, come up against a side we should beat and he plays around. Wilson out injured so just replace him with Chuck, really no need to do anything else. No excuse to play a weak team against southampton now (NT) -- me, Wednesday, March 04, 06:33:41pm (host86-151-207-147.range86-151.btcentralplus.com/86.151.207.147)
  - Yep let’s go for it. (NT) -- HenelRog, Wednesday, March 04, 06:52:57pm (host81-129-180-49.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.49)
- Of all the managers Marco has faced in his career he's faced Nuno the 4th most (11 times) winning an average of 1.73 points per game, compared to a Premier League average of 1.3 points per game. I have a feeling Marco knows very well what to expect from Nuno's team and how best to counter it. They will sit deep and try to hit us on the break. He's got all the pace and power we have in the back and a midfield full of passing and ability to move in tight spaces. I like it! (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, March 04, 06:35:44pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
- Just Marco doing his bit to get Spurs relegated. Same again next up for Forest.. (NT) -- TT, Wednesday, March 04, 08:21:24pm (NoHost/96.93.86.134)
Brentford game -- FB2, Wednesday, March 04, 03:45:20pm (cpc69057-oxfd26-2-0-cust742.4-3.cable.virginm.net/82.6.2.231)
Now 12.30 on TNT 🤦

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Anyone know a Brighton pub that'll be showing Fulham v West Ham this evening? -- MOD, Wednesday, March 04, 03:02:27pm (NoHost/193.9.29.84)
Ta.

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Brentford are set to offload up to five players in the summer, including 23-year-old Portugal midfielder Fabio Carvalho. -- Freddy Toast, Wednesday, March 04, 01:55:18pm (NoHost/80.194.247.18)
Brentford are set to offload up to five players in the summer, including 23-year-old Portugal midfielder Fabio Carvalho. (The I - subscription required)

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- No surprise there. He's not premier League quality. Just another very good championship player. (NT) -- Samuel, Wednesday, March 04, 02:55:00pm (NoHost/90.253.228.158)
  - I think he could have absolutely been premier league quality, but decided to move from a club where he would have played a lot of games, and has ended up playing 38 premier league games in the subsequent 4, crucial years of his development. Which, ironically is pretty much exactly what we all said would happen. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Wednesday, March 04, 02:59:27pm (NoHost/81.79.78.26)
    - What absurd about his leaving was that Marco made it clear he was our starting No. 10, and that Andreas was signed as the No. 8 and was only moved into the 10 because Carvalho left. You have to have a massively overinflated sense of self to believe that being the starting No. 10 for a Premier League club at age 20 is not good enough. The comparison with Josh King is stark. For me it calls into question whether he has the mentality needed to succeed, even if the talent is clearly there. (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, March 04, 04:46:25pm (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
  - Total rubbish (NT) -- GA, Wednesday, March 04, 03:07:08pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
  - This was the consensus opinion on Harry Wilson two years ago. (NT) -- HE, Wednesday, March 04, 03:11:14pm (lewi-28-b2-v4wan-166893-cust665.vm4.cable.virginm.net/86.16.2.154)
  - Do you never get tired of talking rubbish.. (NT) -- HemelRog, Wednesday, March 04, 03:36:24pm (host81-129-180-49.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.49)
    - Ironic (NT) -- Fkev, Wednesday, March 04, 04:26:24pm (NoHost/57.133.213.87)
      - Is that one of the heavy metals in vaccines that kill 80% of children every year. Not sure a conspiracy theorist can comment on anyone else talking nonsense. (NT) -- ASPT, Wednesday, March 04, 04:55:19pm (NoHost/1.146.91.83)
        
        Heavy metals? I'm going to Metallica in the summer. (NT) -- Beano Reader, Wednesday, March 04, 07:46:29pm (host-92-19-68-124.as13285.net/92.19.68.124)
        
        Sisters of Mercy just announced another tour. I reckon you'd like them live. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, March 05, 10:14:00am (NoHost/81.79.78.26)
      - Ha coming from you.Not big on self awareness bunker boy are you? (NT) -- HemelRog, Wednesday, March 04, 05:01:23pm (host81-129-180-49.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.49)
  - Hmmm, same as Muniz with his ONE "purple patch" last season, YOUR crap hypothesis based on totally false criteria, which, in your own words "I'm pleased I was repetitive so you can't deny I was right." Proves what a fool you are! 8 goals in 8 games and EPL player of the month the season before doesn't count. You are not an FFC fan. (NT) -- Still no response?, Wednesday, March 04, 04:45:54pm (customer.vpls.net/107.6.254.54)
- I simply wouldn’t buy a player from Silva. How many go elsewhere and improve or even maintain the levels he gets from them. (NT) -- ASPT, Wednesday, March 04, 04:42:34pm (NoHost/1.146.91.83)
  - Well to be fair, we haven't really sold many. The club has stood firm by Marco and has only really sold two high-performing players post-Carvalho, Palhinha and Mitro. Mitro, who knows? He went to Saudi. Can't judge his post-Silva output from there. Palhinha, yeah, not great. But he's still basically the same player as before: league-leading tackles, average (at best) distribution. It's just that his teams really don't need that skillset! (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, March 04, 04:50:48pm (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
    - Tosin and BDR? (NT) -- ASPT, Wednesday, March 04, 04:58:58pm (NoHost/1.146.91.83)
      - Neither were bought from us. They both left out of contract. Also I think Chelsea got what they were looking for: a decent squad player with good passing skills on the (relative for them) cheap. He wasn't one of their marquee signings. Similarly Leicester with BDR. Kind of like us with Adama: a see what you can get dice roll. Sounds like Andreas has been pretty good for Palmeiras. Killing it since the start of this season: one goal, five assists in the 1st four matches. (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, March 04, 05:24:03pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
    - I’d also suggest Bayern didn’t get the player they thought they were getting. And the Spurs fans are not happy with him, but that probably more about the crap they’ve put around him. (NT) -- ASPT, Wednesday, March 04, 05:05:30pm (NoHost/1.146.91.83)
      - Well I think that's on both of them. They weren't sold a pup. He's still leading the league in tackles. He's still winning headers at an above-average rate. He's still chipping in with the occasional goal. And he's still carrying a poor pass completion rate for a defensive midfielder (mid-70s to low-80s). He does what it said on the tin. He's still the same player as he was under Marco. If they expected growth or something from a player that age, then it's on them. (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, March 04, 05:31:29pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
        
        And he has been replaced by Berge, who is a better all round player in that position. (NT) -- GA, Wednesday, March 04, 06:04:54pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
        
        No argument from me on that one. (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, March 04, 06:05:46pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
        Total f*cking rubbish as usual being shouted from your mouth! (NT) -- Cutler 22, Wednesday, March 04, 06:08:22pm (customer.sfiabgr1.isp.starlink.com/150.228.63.222)
Wolves to avoid Relegation 25-1 -- View from the Riverside, Wednesday, March 04, 09:42:09am (static-84-9-58-207.vodafonexdsl.co.uk/84.9.58.207)
Wolves have won their last two games and have the following games to play - Brentford (a) West Ham (a) Leeds (a) Spurs (h) Sunderland (h) Brighton (a) us (a) then close with Burnley (a).. not many challenging games there considering they just beat Liverpool. 25-1 at the bookies .. Worth a tenner?

11 points adrift with 24 points to play for. I think Spurs will drop as they have 2 points from 18 and Tudor is clueless. West Ham are coming into form - one loss in last 4 and will be tough tonight

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- I think they may have missed a couple of noughts off the end. Away from home - Zero wins and only 4 points away. Fulham @18/1 to win the cup if undeniably more likely (NT) -- Ruiz must play, Wednesday, March 04, 10:08:53am (NoHost/165.85.208.69)
- I think they need to win 6 of 8 to have any chance and i just don't see them doing that. They won't finish bottom though. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Wednesday, March 04, 10:17:27am (NoHost/81.79.78.26)
  - rob esdards doing things that week by weak making him A Silva replacement option??... i'd have him over Liam but behind MikeCarrak riight now! (NT) -- frank asessment, Wednesday, March 04, 11:03:03am (ns5007995.ip-51-222-248.net/51.222.248.206)
- He's missed one nought off - longest odds are 250-1 but some bookies have shortened to 100 - just in case. But Harry Houdini wouldn't get out of this one. (NT) -- Rupert, Wednesday, March 04, 11:37:59am (97e45270.skybroadband.com/151.228.82.112)
congrats -- Greenpole, Wednesday, March 04, 07:06:10am (82-132-232-148.dab.02.net/82.132.232.148)
Wow what a season our cousins NEC Nijmegen are having! 4th and through to the cup final. Hopefully we meet them in Europe next year!

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- Re: congrats -- Cal, Wednesday, March 04, 07:48:25am (212-8-249-155.hosted-by-worldstream.net/212.8.249.155)
- Didn't know that - year of the underdog perhaps? We can dream. (NT) -- Rupert, Wednesday, March 04, 08:49:39am (97e45270.skybroadband.com/151.228.82.112)
- Beat PSV which is no mean feat. AZ or Telstar in the final in Rotterdam. (NT) -- Beano Reader, Wednesday, March 04, 09:15:50am (82-132-233-46.dab.02.net/82.132.233.46)
Curry houses near the Cottage -- Kenny, Tuesday, March 03, 05:32:58pm (NoHost/2.219.214.99)
Does anyone know of a decent curry house in the vicinity of the Cottage?

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- Potli on King Street is best but maybe a bit far to walk (NT) -- Tala, Tuesday, March 03, 06:26:29pm (NoHost/104.28.42.125)
- try Kishmish on Greyhound Rd me Hammersmith (NT) -- bs, Tuesday, March 03, 08:03:44pm (82-132-217-160.dab.02.net/82.132.217.160)
- The Ottoman - (Turkish not Curry) on Fulham Palace Road is an excellent Turkish kebab house. Been eating there for at least 20 years and three sets of managers. (NT) -- red kev, Tuesday, March 03, 10:32:05pm (NoHost/206.245.206.124)
  - Great food, need to book (NT) -- Al, Wednesday, March 04, 03:09:24pm (NoHost/41.33.114.219)
- Pure, Fulham High Street (NT) -- Juan, Tuesday, March 03, 11:38:27pm (NoHost/94.11.160.10)
- Re: Curry houses near the Cottage (NT) -- Kishmish is excellent, Wednesday, March 04, 02:24:18am (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
- I would have said Palace on Fulham Palace road but now taken over by Kissmish on greyhound road (NT) -- Julian Hales, Wednesday, March 04, 07:19:15am (NoHost/165.225.80.211)
- And yet there are still people who insist multiculturalism isn't one of Britain's greatest strengths. Someone asks for a curry house near the Cottage and within minutes half a dozen knowledgeable recommendations appear. That's the reality of a modern, diverse country: richer choices, better food, more culture. Funny how quickly the evidence presents itself. (NT) -- Lib Hen (He / Him) [GMT] (😷💉🏳‍🌈✊🏿🌍), Wednesday, March 04, 12:19:38pm (NoHost/185.174.159.122)
  - erm..yet no suggestions for THAI or imo the best Curries >Mayalsian style (non spicy).. theres obviously ALOT of BRITISH lads hear, thinking madras is the only curry in the entire world? vindalooooooo (NT) -- In KL again tonight, Wednesday, March 04, 12:47:15pm (ns5024469.ip-148-113-168.net/148.113.168.111)
Fulham have probably scored the two best goals seen anywhere this season, but some things never change... -- Rupert, Tuesday, March 03, 02:45:49pm (97e45270.skybroadband.com/151.228.82.112)
Can you imagine if one of the media darlings had scored THAT goal on Sunday... we would not have heard the last of it. Yet MoD virtually completely ignored its brilliance and we have seen little in the written press, apart from the wonderful article in The Athletic. As it states, occasionally you witness something absolutely unique, even in football. Come the season's I will be struggling, Reedy or Alex, each utterly unforgettable ... and who knows, we may even have another contender by then, although that really would be ridiculous.

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- The Premier League's x page has put up a montage of half a dozen goals today, with the description 'no one scores goals like Fulham FC' https://x.com/premierleague/status/2028805085132657026?s=20 (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, March 03, 03:21:53pm (85-115-50-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.50.2)
- Personally I think that Wilson's v Palace was just about the best goal you'll ever see. Movement, one touch, the finish quite literally unstoppable. Reed's, great as it was, could have ended up anywhere and I can't help but feel that a bigger keeper may have kept Iwobi's out. Still, we do score some crackers.... (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Tuesday, March 03, 03:27:08pm (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
  - Don't think I've ever seen a goal like Iwobi's or Wilson's before, in over 60 years of watching professional football. (NT) -- SCA, Tuesday, March 03, 04:43:48pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
  - Brilliant goal, but I think the best goal I have ever seen Fulham score was also against Palace, Hatjim Kasami's. (NT) -- GTS, Tuesday, March 03, 05:10:44pm (ip-217-65-134-12.ptr.icomera.net/217.65.134.12)
    - The thing that beats that for me is that neither Iwobi’s or Wilson’s were full on volleys but were both a combination of subtlety and cunning, both disguised in their own way. (NT) -- SCA, Tuesday, March 03, 06:56:25pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
    - Best goal I’ve ever seen period. (NT) -- Bexhill beast, Tuesday, March 03, 08:51:49pm (host86-142-67-240.range86-142.btcentralplus.com/86.142.67.240)
      - Absolute perfection.Sidwrel got one which wasn’t too shabby as well. (NT) -- HemelRog, Tuesday, March 03, 08:58:57pm (NoHost/31.94.74.144)
  - I love the Wilson goal. Just the sheer fluidity of the whole team made it truly beautiful. It wins out over the Iwobi one because that was fractionally less impressive in that interplay. But otherwise, both beat out Reed's for pure quality. For drama, Reed's cannot be beat. (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, March 03, 06:24:12pm (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
  - Have you forgotton the goal Bergkamp scored against Newcastle or most of the goals Le Tissier scored for Southampton. I love both Wilson's and Iwobi's goals. Both incredible technique and thinking, but no better than Bergkamp's goal which I still can't really work out how he decided to move in that way and control the ball in that way.. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Tuesday, March 03, 06:37:37pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
  - You do realise Vicario is over 6'4" ? (NT) -- He's not Pickford!, Wednesday, March 04, 08:15:11am (NoHost/213.207.130.44)
    - I didn't as he appeared small on saturday and the other few times I've seen him. Pickford is 6'1 but appears shorter (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Wednesday, March 04, 01:21:05pm (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
      - Think he appears small 'ços he's even worse than Leno at claiming crosses! (NT) -- He's crap but he ain't small!, Wednesday, March 04, 05:06:56pm (NoHost/213.207.132.9)
- Not sure we have ever been treated to so many stunning goals. (NT) -- HemelRog, Tuesday, March 03, 03:30:38pm (NoHost/31.94.74.144)
  - We've never had so many talented flair players on the pitch at the same time. Same 11 start tomorrow Marco. If possible?. (NT) -- CB, Tuesday, March 03, 03:43:01pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
    - Yep really exciting future hopefully.Not over confident or WH funnily enough though.Plus point being I am usually wrong. (NT) -- HemelRog, Tuesday, March 03, 04:13:32pm (NoHost/31.94.74.145)
      - WH feel similar, but then I did about Spurs. (NT) -- CB, Tuesday, March 03, 06:27:13pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
- Wilson's goal v Palace was far better than either of them. The amount of great goals we've scored this season is off the chart (NT) -- SW, Tuesday, March 03, 04:21:54pm (cos2-04-b2-v4wan-171525-cust1783.vm10.cable.virginm.net/82.10.46.248)
- Its concerning to have to rely on that type of goal to get results when we miss so many easier chances every week (NT) -- Waterboy, Tuesday, March 03, 04:37:16pm (NoHost/90.242.53.3)
  - You can't help but wonder what happens when the 'worldies' dry up... who's getting the tap-ins? (NT) -- SCA, Tuesday, March 03, 04:41:17pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
    - Me.Can’t do the worldies but might manage the odd tap in.Jesus wept our fans. (NT) -- HemelRog, Tuesday, March 03, 04:45:29pm (NoHost/31.94.74.144)
      - English please? (NT) -- SCA, Tuesday, March 03, 05:09:42pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
- H’s goal v Palace was a thing of beauty. Nine outfield players involved in a seamless build up, which opened up Palace like a tin of sardines. And on the end of this mesmerising interchange of passes was Harry Wilson, with a deft flick with the outside of his trusty left. Classic team goal…..you don’t need a sledge hammer to crack a nut. (NT) -- Bad Boy, Tuesday, March 03, 07:22:29pm (NoHost/2.126.58.251)
- I always factor in importance too - I know I shouldn't but I do. Harrison's was massive, Alex's equally so if not more in that we won rather than drew. For all H's briliance in that moment we were Var-ed in that game. (NT) -- Rupert, Wednesday, March 04, 08:53:07am (97e45270.skybroadband.com/151.228.82.112)
Referees -- Observer, Tuesday, March 03, 02:24:18pm (NoHost/90.202.14.192)
Has the Spurs manager been charged yet for his comments about the ref after Sunday's game?

Marco would have been banned for life by now for similar remarks.

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- Yes, he overstepped the mark, be interesting to see what happens, the referee was good, overall, the surprising thing was he did not have the big club bias which is what Spurs were obviously so angry about. Ironically, their biggest gripe should be the similarity between the Man U goal given against us and the Spurs goal ruled out against Arsenal, both two handed shoves. Raul incident was nothing like that. In fairness, Igor did admit we were the far superior side. (NT) -- Rupert, Tuesday, March 03, 02:35:53pm (97e45270.skybroadband.com/151.228.82.112)
Ticket available for tomorrow night as can't make it. £20. Leave message if interested. -- JW, Tuesday, March 03, 11:56:59am (82-132-238-177.dab.02.net/82.132.238.177)
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- Re: Ticket available for tomorrow night as can't make it. £20. Leave message if interested. -- Michael, Wednesday, March 04, 07:26:10am (NoHost/165.225.80.211)
- Still available if anyone interested. Will only be available to reply on next hour or so. Ticket will have to be transferred digitally. (NT) -- JW, Wednesday, March 04, 02:30:53pm (82-132-228-46.dab.02.net/82.132.228.46)
Traore told to stay out of the gym... thought he'd been looking a bit muscle bound over the last year or so. -- Straw Clutchers Anonymous, Tuesday, March 03, 09:59:27am (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
“I’ve told him to stay out of the gym. It’s enough weight that he carries.”

Head coach Nuno Espirito Santo says Adama Traore has been banned from lifting weights at West Ham's training ground. #WHUFC
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- I said the same a few weeks back. There's also a vid of him training with an influencer at our gym- doing a pull up with a 50kg weight. Insane, but also overall for football. He's looked less like the gym that blitzed Kyle Walker and kind of waddles. (NT) -- HE, Tuesday, March 03, 12:09:01pm (lewi-28-b2-v4wan-166893-cust665.vm4.cable.virginm.net/86.16.2.154)
- He was definitely looking even bigger this year. Marco often mentioned how Adama would need recovery after a lung-busting run leading to suspect decision-making in the moment. And being that much of a beefcake can't help, even if it does make him more explosive. If it did help, we'd probably see many more of his physique in football as we do in rugby and American football. But we don't. (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, March 03, 12:12:52pm (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
  - He seemed particularly crap in a defensive setting. He looked like a second row trundling back to the gain line when he was providing cover. (NT) -- HE, Tuesday, March 03, 12:41:43pm (lewi-28-b2-v4wan-166893-cust665.vm4.cable.virginm.net/86.16.2.154)
    - An excellent comparison. Completely agree. (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, March 03, 02:17:21pm (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
- I think we did well to get a couple of mill for him to be honest. How do you go about shedding that excess muscle without detriment to the rest of the body? The adrenalin rush from training in the gym can be addictive and I wonder if that's the case with Traore. As a side topic, being tattooed is also addictive which is why we see so many players with hideously tattooed bodies IMO. (NT) -- SCA, Tuesday, March 03, 01:28:49pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
  - I think you have a good point about the psychological addiction to training, particularly in regard to endorphin release. But downsizing wouldn't be of any detriment systemically. Muscle mass will gradually reduce once the stimulus is removed as the body prioritises the default environment of homeostasis. He will however still maintain some of that muscle with fundamental training principles in football such as sprints and plyometrics. (NT) -- Samuel, Tuesday, March 03, 02:22:36pm (NoHost/90.250.249.97)
    - Yes, Mitrovic didn't particularly suffer physically after bulking down when Parker left. That whole situation was truly bizaare though. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, March 03, 02:27:46pm (85-115-50-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.50.2)
- I suspect he'll continue to train with weights at home. Bodybuilding is often an addictive pursuit, moreso when an individual is effectively defined by their physique. (NT) -- Samuel, Tuesday, March 03, 02:01:36pm (NoHost/90.250.249.97)
- it’s good to know that I should also stay out of the gym now I’ve got bigger. (NT) -- bs, Tuesday, March 03, 03:37:59pm (NoHost/2.126.191.47)
- Does that mean he can't carry the can? (NT) -- Harry., Tuesday, March 03, 08:42:25pm (54.249.125.91.dyn.plus.net/91.125.249.54)
Where are they now? -- dd, Monday, March 02, 08:33:58pm (NoHost/90.204.91.94)

Matt Targett has scored two goals for Middlesboro in the first 26 mins of their away match at Birmingham this evening...

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- Re: Where are they now? (NT) -- Matt spewing over the Blues, Monday, March 02, 09:08:22pm (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
Marco's statement about Diop versus his action -- eganonoa, Monday, March 02, 05:14:44pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
I have to say, I just don't understand how Diop's treated. He comes in and almost always does a good job whenever Andersen's out. Almost always our best defender, in terms of defensive output (not with the ball). But then he immediately loses his position whenever Andersen is back, almost as if there is no true competition and nothing he can do about it. And when he loses his position it's not just in the 11, it's in the match day squad, with Cuenca winning out almost every time on the bench. And yet, here's what Marco just said about him:

"I don't like to go for individual things, but it's important to mention Issa Diop. He knows he was not supposed to start the game. He was at home last night. He was not even at the hotel with us. He’s a good professional, he came this morning to join ourselves after the illness of Joa, and he performed in this way. It was our decision to start with him, and what a performance from him. Leadership, the focus and the commitment he had in every moment to lead our backline, was crucial from himself. And I have to really to congratulate him for the performance. I'm very pleased, because he deserves all the credit. Sometimes not always involved in all the moments, [but] every time we need him and to use him, he responds very well. And always, I know that tomorrow, if he plays or not this afternoon, he’s going to be the first one to arrive at the training ground. He’s going to be the first one to push the others to go, always a top professional, very important for ourselves."

www.fulhamfc.com/news/2026/march/01/marco-praise-for-diop/

If this is the case, and he is such a good, reliable pro and a leader, how is it he's never in a position to fight for his place? Yes, he's a worse passer of the ball than Andersen. But he's clearly a better defender and Andersen has looked very vulnerable against pacey and powerful forwards since he came back to us (from that drubbing by Cunha onwards). And we've got good passers on the other side of central defense in Cuenca and Bassey. So it would be logical to me to mix and match a bit depending on opponent.

I don't really associate Marco with playing favourites like this. He's shown he can drop the main guys, like this year King in favour of ESR, Sess right now keeping Robinson out. But Andersen just seems totally and utterly undroppable. I don't understand it.

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- A couple of months ago I suggested that Diop was our best center back and was (by some) aggressively criticised for that opinion. I'm personally not that convinced by Andersen and feel he's only a nailed on starter due to contractual obligations and justification if an excessive salary. I'd be more than happy to see him sold off and replaced this summer. (NT) -- Samuel, Monday, March 02, 05:23:28pm (NoHost/83.106.75.64)
  - I doubt you were truly agressively criticised for that opinion. I've been banging that drum for a couple of years yet, and while people have disagreed, it's never caused a major outcry. You probably just got the troll or alanos on your back, as per their wont. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, March 02, 05:32:32pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
    - There were also a couple of other regular contributor's to the board who responded with gratuitous and mean spirited remarks, although they will remain nameless, as I don't entertain conflict, particularly with cowards. You shouldn't say anything online you can't, or are not prepared to say to someone in person. (NT) -- Samuel, Monday, March 02, 05:41:18pm (NoHost/83.106.75.64)
      - You are justifiably criticised for your RELENTLESS attacks on Muniz, despite the FACTS proving you wrong. On Feb 12 you argued with the same poster you are conversing with now, insisting that Muniz has had 1 "purple-patch"last season (conversation in reply from Archive 4). I asked you to explain why you ignore his "purple-patch" the season before (8 goals in 8 games and EPL player of the month, yet you continue to refuse to answer! Why should anyone take you seriously? -- Answer the question, it's a simple one!, Monday, March 02, 06:10:39pm (customer.vpls.net/107.6.254.140)
    - Eganonoa and Henri started on here when the Saudis came in for Mitro , saying he was worth no more than £25m . When Muniz went on his goal scoring run they became VERY interested in him . Eganonoa and Samuel argue with one another sometimes . But despite that Samuel is an offshoot of Eganonoa , made to vent opinions he does not want to say himself , like Muniz is rubbish and should be got rid of asap . (NT) -- alanos, Monday, March 02, 05:42:45pm (82-132-213-205.dab.02.net/82.132.213.205)
      - Junkie Nut-job (NT) -- Junkie Nut-job Spotter, Monday, March 02, 06:13:33pm (unn-212-102-63-66.cdn77.com/212.102.63.66)
    - Quelle surprise!!! Samuel crawls back under his stone again! (NT) -- Or disappears up his own crack, maybe?, Monday, March 02, 10:09:44pm (customer.vpls.net/107.6.254.54)
  - Samuel CONTINUES to base his "Championship level" assertation against Muniz on the fact that he had 1 "purple patch" LAST season. As a self-proclaimed fan of 4 decades, perhaps he should go and check Rodrigo's stats for the 2nd half of the season BEFORE last and then apologise to real FFC fans. (NT) -- I do not believe he is even an FFC fan., Monday, March 02, 10:34:20pm (customer.vpls.net/107.6.254.139)
- Right now I’d say Diop should be un-droppable . As you say a better Defender than Andersen but without the latter’s range of passing . But factor in cutting out errors and we have a very capable right-sided CH . Can’t imagine Joa will be under consideration for tomorrow for which injuries /fitness permitting , I would name an unchanged starting 11 (NT) -- Mickey, Monday, March 02, 05:24:42pm (82-132-233-146.dab.02.net/82.132.233.146)
  - I hope that's the case. But I suspect that if Andersen's feeling well enough to be on the bench, he'll be in the team and Diop will be back to being sent home. We've just seen it happen too often for it not to happen again. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, March 02, 05:38:27pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
- I don't think the back four should be tinkered with unnecessarily. We're in the very fortunate position of having a reserve back four very nearly as good as the first choice with arguments in favour of each of the 8 players but only four can start. Marco is, IMO, neither right nor wrong to prefer Andersen but the choice has to be made. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Monday, March 02, 05:24:55pm (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
  - I don't agree. We've invested so much in the back line, including Diop who was about 15m. We should be using all our options depending on the opponent. As it is we switch between a back three and a back four. And for whatever reason we don't stick with a consistent line-up at the back if Andersen's been out and Diop is in and performed. If the belief is consistency, then we should be sticking with the guy who has come in and done well. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, March 02, 05:36:52pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
- My inferred solution to the mystery... Our 6th highest earner (per Capology) Issa was expected to leave last summer in understandable pursuit of more playing time. A right-footed Cuenca equivalent would then have been sought for Cuenca-type wages. Meanwhile, in exchange for probably outstaying his welcome with the bean-counters, he is living up to his wage when called upon. All good from a purely spectator, as opposed to club governance, point of view. But I think that is what it is about. (NT) -- b+w g., Monday, March 02, 05:47:08pm (host81-159-15-87.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.15.87)
  - Could be, though I've always assumed de Fogerrolles was being groomed for that 2nd RCB role and didn't think Diop would be off until he was considered ready. I'm surprised that he's reckoned to be our 6th highest earner. If that is the case, then I can see your point. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, March 02, 05:54:49pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
    - So says Capology (source approved by SOS). And Andersen our 4th highest. Both players hired with the full approval of Marco to best of our communal knowledge, and not to be doubted he rates both for their different virtues. But (my reading) he also takes on board that a £2.5-£3m saving per season, as would follow Issa's departure and replacement by a Cuenca, is his duty not to discourage. (NT) -- b+w g., Monday, March 02, 06:12:19pm (host81-159-15-87.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.15.87)
- Irrespective of Andersen’s absence on Sunday, I reckon Diop will start on merit against his old club on Wednesday. (NT) -- Bad Boy, Monday, March 02, 05:47:15pm (NoHost/2.126.58.251)
  - I don’t believe he will. It’s almost as if Andersen is guaranteed starting if fit. In any case, Diop will play against Saints. (NT) -- SCA, Monday, March 02, 07:09:00pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
- Diop should DEFINITELY keep his place. Andersen will get torn apart by Summerville. (NT) -- IMHO, Monday, March 02, 11:04:46pm (unn-212-102-63-89.cdn77.com/212.102.63.89)
- I heard yesterday that he was given special permission by the Club because he is currently fasting. (NT) -- Ted White, Tuesday, March 03, 11:19:54am (host86-191-229-228.range86-191.btcentralplus.com/86.191.229.228)
Iwobi @ 8 -- eganonoa, Monday, March 02, 08:54:21am (NoHost/217.75.196.3)
Yesterday seemed like the day Iwobi firmly solidified his place as our No. 8. I thought Sunderland was his best go at the position. And yesterday he took it a step further and was everywhere, both defensively and on the ball.

Two tackles, one interception, and one blocked shot made him statistically our most defensively productive non-defender and beyond the stats he was noticeably always covering.

On the ball he was excellent. Had more passes than everyone bar Diop, with an 86% success rate, four key passes, five out of five long balls, and didn't surrender the ball when he was on it. He had a surprisingly large amount of freedom given Spurs had both Palhinha and Gallagher playing. Partly that's probably because they were quite rubbish, but also partly because he really can operate in tight spaces, which really helped open them up through the middle.

I also thought his relationship with Berge was very good. While Berge is still the No. 6 and asked to keep it simple, it seemed to me that he got forward a bit more than usual because he and Iwobi combined well to find space for each other.

All-in-all when you add in the goal, he was the clear man of the match yesterday and very much looked like a long-term solution at No. 8

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- Agree with everything you say apart from MOTM. That was big Issa (NT) -- Ibizaaaaaaa, Monday, March 02, 09:11:30am (NoHost/161.12.62.42)
  - Re: Iwobi @ 8//// Some TWAT said as much already yesterday (eyes on from KL)/// butt because some 'so called' troll hunter DIDNT like our remark > that Muniz and Kinga were in a major slump in form.. mods cancelled this itk comment (NT) -- IWOBI back to POTY form, Monday, March 02, 09:12:35am (ns5024469.ip-148-113-168.net/148.113.168.111)
    - Mods appear to have FINALLY got their act together and managed to ban the cust.tzulo.com domain. PLEASE follow that up by banning the one I am replying to now. Ban ns*.ip*.net as well. I am sure this fool will find another but just keep knocking them over as he does! (NT) -- You know it makes sense!, Monday, March 02, 09:42:19am (NoHost/213.207.132.6)
      - . (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, March 02, 09:45:58am (NoHost/217.75.196.3)
  - Diop is my 2nd choice. It was so good to have a truly excellent defender in the role. His positioning and some of those tackles were phenomenal. And i wonder if his poorer passing led to Iwobi being on the ball a bit more vs everything going through Andersen? He doesn't win my MOTM vote because I thought he dropped off a little in the 2nd half once they made their subs, with that one jump into midfield failing and leading to an opportunity for them. Otherwise, a thoroughly impressive performance (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, March 02, 09:41:25am (NoHost/217.75.196.3)
  - Bassey really won his duels against Mauni early, Diop too in the few instances he switched. (NT) -- HE, Monday, March 02, 09:47:04am (lewi-28-b2-v4wan-166893-cust665.vm4.cable.virginm.net/86.16.2.154)
  - I like Diop he is a whole hearted and good player, it is just I always feel there is at least one mistake a game in him, maybe it is impetuosity, but that charge into midfield and missed challenge towards the end of the game almost cost us...the one where their bloke hit the side netting from close range I mean. (NT) -- GTS, Monday, March 02, 10:09:12am (24.206.100.60.netskope-rdns.com/24.206.100.60)
    - That wasn't really a mistake, it was a really unlucky deflection from the tackle he'd made. Bassey on the other hand just gave the ball away to Gallagher on the edge of our area allowing him a free run into the area. Bassey way more error prone IMO (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Monday, March 02, 10:57:49am (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
      - I think most of the concern with Diop stems from when we were very susceptible to the high press, with Diop and Bassey at the back and Palhinha in front. That meant that there really wasn't a great way to pass out except wide where we'd be trapped and Diop could be isolated. Since, Bassey has become a lot better with the ball at his feet and Berge is night and day better with the ball than Palhinha. So nowadays Diop is under a lot less pressure and isn't as suspectable to being isolated. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, March 02, 11:10:35am (NoHost/217.75.196.3)
        
        Also worth noting that Castagne was our starting right back for most of that campaign as well, and i think Tete gives the right sided centre back a lot more security. Noticeable the rapport with those two yesterday, lots of handslaps and high fives when defending well (NT) -- Same Old Story, Monday, March 02, 12:29:53pm (NoHost/81.79.78.26)
        
        Completely agree. I'm actually a big fan of Castagne. But there is no doubt that in the current configuration of how we play we need someone who can both tuck in as a 3rd CB or even into DM and that is just not Castagne's skill set. We're just a very different side to what we were when Diop was doing the "one error a game" thing. I'd like to see him given the chance to retain his place (though know he won't be). (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, March 02, 12:38:09pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
- Just as a matter of interest,when did No.6s become defensive midfielders ?? Aren't 5s & 6s Centre halves, with midfielders being 4,7,8 & 11 ? (NT) -- GTS, Monday, March 02, 09:42:02am (24.206.100.60.netskope-rdns.com/24.206.100.60)
  - Back in the day players were numbered in the 2-3-5 formation. In about 1970 we switched to 4-2-4 and I remember an away game at Sheffield United where two elderly United fans couldn't understand why our left back was playing CH and a CH playing LB. They spent the whole match trying to make sense of it. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Monday, March 02, 09:53:53am (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
  - When all lineups were written as 2-3-5 you used to have the two fullbacks as numbers 2 and 3. The three half-backs as 4-5-6. The five forwards as 7-8-9-10-11. Then the No. 5 became the centre back in a W-M leaving 4 & 6 as half backs. I'm not sure there was a global standard after that about which of 4/6 became the 2nd CB and which remained a half-back/DM. I've always thought of both 4&6 being for both CB or DM without a standard, though now it does seem 6=DM. Some links inside -- eganonoa, Monday, March 02, 09:57:27am (NoHost/217.75.196.3)
    - I know and understand what you are saying, just seems odd how 6 ended up as a defensive MF....not sure Ernie Howe etc would cut it as modern day No.6s !!! (NT) -- GTS, Monday, March 02, 10:05:43am (24.206.100.60.netskope-rdns.com/24.206.100.60)
      - I'd bet it has something to do with the modern archetypes in the position wearing No. 6 like Xavi, Makelelle. As the role has evolved beyond the traditional idea of a shield, the term "defensive midfielder" doesn't really explain it. Also there aren't many positions on the pitch that get discussed using a number. No. 9, yes. Then 6-8-10. Now that teams almost always play with three in the middle, 6-8-10 has become a useful shorthand for what are often quite fluid roles. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, March 02, 10:27:45am (NoHost/217.75.196.3)
      - I'm with you GTS. The likes of Glenn Thomas, Gavin Nebbeling and Terry Angus didn't strike me as particularly good options for defensive midfield really. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Monday, March 02, 10:53:47am (NoHost/81.79.78.26)
        
        On that note, someone on FOF has posted a link to the 1989/90 goals of the season. (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Monday, March 02, 01:42:33pm (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
- I think that was Berge's best game for us too. Nice to have such a dilemma for MotM. Some of the one-touch give and go's were superb. Really NEED Silva to stay...!!! (NT) -- Fkev, Monday, March 02, 10:06:17am (ec2-3-248-64-94.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com/3.248.64.94)
  - We really were able to carve them up despite Gallagher, Bissouma and Palhinha in the middle. Them paying 442 didn't help. But I think we really saw the benefit of having a team full of technicians who can dance or pass around pressure. Berge, Iwobi, Bobby, ESR, Wilson all have serious skills in that regard. And then add in the crazy movement of Raul (going backwards) and Sess (going forwards) and they were all at sea. Doubt it always works but it was a thing to behind that first 60 minutes. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, March 02, 10:47:31am (NoHost/217.75.196.3)
    - Yes, we really were excellent, before letting them back into the game due to some poor finishing (standard!) Gallagher - one of those players I've never seen have a good game. Ever. For anyone. Wonder how much he's on a week...... (NT) -- Fkev, Monday, March 02, 11:50:11am (ec2-3-248-64-94.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com/3.248.64.94)
      - Not my favourite player but what absolute rubbish.Capped for England at just about every level.Those selectors can’t have a clue unlike you.Wow. (NT) -- No ten Rog, Monday, March 02, 12:20:23pm (host81-129-180-43.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.43)
        
        Bit harsh. I've also never seen him play particularly well. Clearly he must have something about him given he's only played for big clubs and internationally. But if he's anything more than a slightly better version of Harrison Reed, I've not seen it. How much distance is there realistically between him and Sasa Lukic, for instance? (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, March 02, 12:25:18pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
        
        Not harsh in the slightest.People who know a lot more about the game than us have obviously seen something.I have already stated he is not one of my favourite players though. (NT) -- HemelRog, Monday, March 02, 12:39:04pm (host81-129-180-43.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.43)
        
        Sometimes people 'who know a lot more about the game than us' make mistakes or get thins wrong. Junior Lewis played in the premier league, ffs. He could barely kick a ball. (NT) -- Same old Story, Monday, March 02, 12:43:20pm (NoHost/81.79.78.26)
        
        Ha ha! And on that note, Carlton Palmer got about as many caps for England as Gallagher has! I don't doubt he's a decent premier league calibre player, but reportedly being paid £200k per week and considered a marquee signing by Spurs. I'm not seeing it. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, March 02, 12:52:05pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
        
        Yes precisely. Can only judge by what ive seen, and like you, and Kev, i've never seen the fuss. He's like a labrador puppy. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Monday, March 02, 12:57:10pm (NoHost/81.79.78.26)
        
        Twenty two caps not one.The ultimate complement being compared to a Labrador pup anyway. (NT) -- HemelRog, Monday, March 02, 01:38:04pm (host81-129-180-43.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.43)
        
        Palmer had 18 caps. He's the most egregious but here are some others: 20 caps = Fabien Delph; 21 = Denis Wise, Aaron Lennon, Matthew Upson, Ledley King; 22 caps = Darrius Vassel; 23 = Nick Barmby; 26 = Joleon Lesscot, Daniel Sturridge; 31 = Kalvim Phillips; 39 = Nicky Butt; 42 = David Batty. Not saying any of these are crap. But clearly large numbers of England caps doesn't mean you are more than an average player especially in midfield where we're always scraping around. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, March 02, 02:38:48pm (NoHost/217.75.196.3)
        
        I always thought Lesley King was pretty good.Probably easier pleased than many of you.Especially bunker boy. (NT) -- HemelRog, Monday, March 02, 03:43:16pm (NoHost/31.94.74.80)
        
        Gallagher works his socks off, will get into the box and sniff out goals if allowed to, won palace player of season playing advanced, as a late arriver in the box who’s brilliant at pressing, similar to Perreira. Played plenty for Madrid, Chelsea & England, you don’t do that for that many managers if you’re average. However technically limited and always believed he’d end up as upper mid prem, too many limitations to be a truly top midfielder. (NT) -- Henry1879, Monday, March 02, 07:54:57pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
        
        I thought he played really well whilst at Palace, but whenever I’ve watched him since then has looked pretty ordinary. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Monday, March 02, 01:59:28pm (host86-142-67-240.range86-142.btcentralplus.com/86.142.67.240)
- Iwobi is quality+attitude+versatility. His contract expires in summer '28, so would be excellent to see it extended soon. Low risk in making it another long one, setting him up as TC's successor.. (NT) -- b+w g., Monday, March 02, 11:29:48am (NoHost/81.159.15.87)
  - You never know, we could still have Cairney kicking around James Milner style then. What a cameo he made yesterday (that one dodgy pass that led to an opportunity for them aside). But irrespective, Iwobi is clearly the squad captain in waiting, if not the true social leader of the team already. And he's just the sort of player you can imagine aging very well. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, March 02, 11:40:15am (NoHost/217.75.196.3)
  - Five years from the end of this season, he'll just have turned 35. How many Prem seasons did Milner have left at that age? And as with Milner, no calibre- or attitude- related possibility of finding ourselves without suitors for him if ever we (improbably) needed rid. (NT) -- b+w g., Monday, March 02, 11:43:15am (host81-159-15-87.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.15.87)
- Whilst it always takes 2 to tango and we were really good at times, I thought spurs were atrocious. Couldn’t believe how much space we could find in between their defence and midfield, constantly getting at their back 4 and Raul was an absolutely nuisance, gave their CBs a torrid time with his movement. First time I’ve felt spurs really could go down, gray LB & Gallagher LM in a 4-4-2 is utterly bizarre. Thought TC really helped, kept a lid on any momentum they started to build. (NT) -- Henry1879, Monday, March 02, 11:45:05am (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
  - Oh yeah I say as much in my OP and reply to fkev. The amount of space was ridiculous and they were just awful. But its always hard to judge the reasons for it. They looked a lot better against Arsenal, albeit set up differently. And given the result and performance against Sunderland, I'm sticking with it as proof of the Iwobi-Berge pairing working, alongside the increase in technical players, and the whole Raul & Sess positional chaos. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, March 02, 11:56:11am (NoHost/217.75.196.3)

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