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Date Posted: 12:56:46 08/26/05 Fri
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Bootsy
's message, "Re: MY REPLY TO ROB" on 11:27:01 08/26/05 Fri
>As I write this response to Rob's reply I'm enjoying a
>bowl of Rocky Road ice cream, it sooths me like the
>violin soothed the monster. Just kidding, but it is
>really really good. I suggest you get some before
>reading this. Chocolate, Marshmellows and Almonds Oh
>My!
>
>Rob, I want to thank you once again for chiming in and
>I respect you for doing so. It takes guts and shows
>you are a decent guy. However, I don't agree with
>everything you've had to say and I'd like a chance to
>address your remarks if I may.
>
>First I'd like you and everyone else to know that I
>have had and still have dialogue via email with some
>people that are big fans of yours and although we see
>things differently we have managed to find a common
>ground where we can passionately disagree, yet still
>see where each other are coming from and even helped
>each other see things in a different light. Why is
>that so hard for everyone else? I won't name their
>names as I would not want them to be alienated or
>shunned for associating themselves with such an evil,
>hateful sociopath such as myself. But I think if you
>asked them about me, they'd have some nice things to
>say. With that said...
>
>"What
>>bootsy doesn't get is that DSO does NOT COPY any show
>>in any way. The concept of playing "shows" for us is
>>mearly a set list. It would be against everything the
>>music is meant to be if it were "copied" as boosty
>>suggests. The beauty of the music is that it's based
>>around improvisation. The heart and soul of the music
>>is the freedom to play it as you feel at that moment.
>>If it's forced or planned it fails. We play the music
>>from our hearts not from our heads."
>
>I myself did not hear the improv. It sounded to me
>like you guys were playing a show that you picked out
>and there are many others that feel the same way. If
>you say it ain't so I'll believe you. But why then do
>you even bother telling people what show it was
>afterwards? Forgive me for being so blunt, but as far
>as I'm concerned it is planned and does fail. That
>being said I do believe that you guys play from the
>heart and are talented musicians and I have said thir
>previously.
>
>"We don't try to look, sound, act like the Dead it's
>just how it is.>Every show is different from the next."
>
>Sorry Rob, but check out your own web site,
>particularly under the photos and bios of the band.
>They put the person you are supposed to be in
>parentheses after your own names with a picture of you
>guys. But it appears you guys changed that since I
>first posted. Anyway, John's photo is him with a
>famous Garcia facial expression. Am I wrong? Maybe
>you're right, maybe it is just how it is, but then why
>bother naming the band member you are supposed to be
>portraying on your own website with a bio about how
>you studied Bobby for years? Or a photo of you looking
>like that person?
>
>"Another thing
>>about the Dead that many forget is that half of their
>>material were cover songs from other artists. Some of
>>our favorites Morning Dew, Going Down The Road, I Know
>>You Rider etc were all covers."
>
>I'm very aware of this and actually mentioned it in
>several of my posts followed by saying that I'd like
>to hear you guys play those covers your own way,
>because you guys can play. If you look you will see
>these comments over and over. Also, I'd like to point
>out that the boys played covers the way they played,
>not copying the tune, they made a cover theirs in a
>way by playing it the way they played. I think you
>guys should do the same. They covered them for a
>reason. They're great songs. Also, I'm probably wrong,
>but I thought Dew was actually a poem that Garcia put
>music to, but now that I think of it, yes the woman
>that wrote it also sang it I think.
>
>"Each
>>night we get to explore the music and take it
>>different places. The jazz community has been covering
>>each others songs for decades. It's a priviladge to be
>>able to play this music."
>
>You're right and again, the Jazz community, of which
>I'm very, very familiar does play covers of even their
>contemporaries, but each musician or ensemble does it
>with their own interpretation as the boys did. That's
>what makes it special. Would love to hear you guys do
>the same. I love hitting a small jazz club in
>Manahattan and seeing a bunch of guys that are not the
>big dogs shredding a Stella By Starlight or a
>Cantaloupe Island or a Mingus tune and hearing them do
>it the way THEY do it. A friend said it best right
>here in one of these reviews, I'm paraphrasing. You
>guys have the talent and you play so well, you're
>playing fantastic music that has so many
>improvisational possibilities, why not open the door
>and step out into them.
>
>"The thing that Bootsy doesn't
>>get is that being a Dead Head is a way of life, a way
>>of thinking. The music was just one part of it the
>>other part was and is the people. The beauty is when
>>it all comes together. Who cares if you know the title
>>if it moves you emotionally THATS whats important!
>>Those open enough get it and will continue to come
>>back the others will miss it but that's also a part of
>>life."
>
>Dude you have no more right to tell these people or me
>what a Dead Head is than I do. I was man enough to
>admit it. Now can you? I know exactly what it is to be
>a Dead Head, because I live my lide each and every day
>as one. Without having to posture myself as one or
>scream it fromt he roof tops. Besides you could ask
>1,000 different Dead Heads what a Dead Head is and
>you'd probably get 975 different answers and I would
>expect you to know that. I even said in a few posts
>that I'm sure you guys are true Dead Heads. You don't
>know me or who I am. For all you know we hung out at a
>show or two and had some laughs together or bumped
>into each other in the parking lot from time to time.
>
>"The music was just one part of it the
>>other part was and is the people. The beauty is when
>>it all comes together. Who cares if you know the title
>>if it moves you emotionally THATS whats important!"
>
>One of your fans I've been emailing with said it best
>about this very topic...Me: "I tried to use a little
>tough love and I guess it back fired. God how many
>times did I
>have the older tour heads go off on me about shit when
>I was on tour?"
>
>DSO Fan: "This is probably related to the
>all-too-common occurance of email not really capturing
>the exact emotional inflection of its writer and the
>reader over-reading it."
>
>I want EVERYONE to be a Dead Head, imagine what a
>world it would truly, truly be. All I want is for them
>to get into it for the right reasons and learn about
>how and why it happened and continues. Not just to
>rush to see a coverband portraying the real thing and
>pretend that you are there. Most of the people at the
>show I saw were under 30 years old and it was evident
>that they were there for the wrong reasons. I used the
>Mexicali thing as an example. Maybe it was wrong.
>Probably was. I would not have wanted someone to do
>that to me at a show back in the day. But maybe that
>kid will listen to the music now and learn about it
>instead of worrying more about his clothes and whether
>or not he's pulling the correct dance moves. Sorry,
>there goes that tough love thing again. I dived
>headfirst into the Grateful Dead community at 17 and
>met a lot of cool people that brought me along. I have
>brought many people along and still do. I just want
>them to love it for the right reasons. And I
>personally don't think what you are doing is right and
>I'm not the only Dead Head that thinks so bro. Sorry
>if you thought differently.
>
>"Those open enough get it and will continue to come
>>back the others will miss it but that's also a part of
>>life."
>
>Kind of an arrogant statement. Don't you think? Not
>that many of mine have not been. If they don't get
>what the DSO is doing then they don't get it? Or don't
>get what the Dead was doing? We're kind of singing the
>same tune on different street corners. Guess we're
>both throwing stones. No Grateful Dead pun intended.
>
>"When the old Grateful Dead family come out to
>>see us (Kidd, Betty, Mountain Girl, Donna Jean, Harry
>>Popick the list goes on) that's our biggest jury. They
>>continue to come out because the feeling is the same
>>and they would know certainly more so then Bootsy."
>
>True I guess they would not more about that than me.
>However I've already stated several times why they do
>and I'm not going to drag the Family through the mud.
>I've met a lot of them over the years and most were
>very decent people. I've said what I have to say about
>this.
>
>"Imagine if nobody ever played other artists music
>>after the original stopped? What a sad thing that
>>would be! Peace"
>
>Never said that nobody should. Just think each person
>should interpret it in their own way. You can think
>what you want of me Rob, but I am a very creative
>person and I'm seriously anti-establishment and always
>have been. I live in the man's world as little as
>possible and make my own way. I've found a way to use
>my creativity and many of the lessons I learned from
>being a Dead Head in my life every day. Not all of my
>ideas are original, but if I don't put my own spin on
>them or allow my creativity to flow into them, I'm not
>creating, I'm just recreating. Peace man. Seriously.
>Bootsy has TONS O LOVE for all of you and all that
>know me, know that.
>
>>As I write this response to Rob's reply I'm enjoying a
>>bowl of Rocky Road ice cream, it sooths me like the
>>violin soothed the monster. Just kidding, but it is
>>really really good. I suggest you get some before
>>reading this. Chocolate, Marshmellows and Almonds Oh
>>My!
>>
>>Rob, I want to thank you once again for chiming in and
>>I respect you for doing so. It takes guts and shows
>>you are a decent guy. However, I don't agree with
>>everything you've had to say and I'd like a chance to
>>address your remarks if I may.
>>
>>First I'd like you and everyone else to know that I
>>have had and still have dialogue via email with some
>>people that are big fans of yours and although we see
>>things differently we have managed to find a common
>>ground where we can passionately disagree, yet still
>>see where each other are coming from and even helped
>>each other see things in a different light. Why is
>>that so hard for everyone else? I won't name their
>>names as I would not want them to be alienated or
>>shunned for associating themselves with such an evil,
>>hateful sociopath such as myself. But I think if you
>>asked them about me, they'd have some nice things to
>>say. With that said...
>>
>>"What
>>>bootsy doesn't get is that DSO does NOT COPY any show
>>>in any way. The concept of playing "shows" for us is
>>>mearly a set list. It would be against everything the
>>>music is meant to be if it were "copied" as boosty
>>>suggests. The beauty of the music is that it's based
>>>around improvisation. The heart and soul of the music
>>>is the freedom to play it as you feel at that moment.
>>>If it's forced or planned it fails. We play the music
>>>from our hearts not from our heads."
>>
>>I myself did not hear the improv. It sounded to me
>>like you guys were playing a show that you picked out
>>and there are many others that feel the same way. If
>>you say it ain't so I'll believe you. But why then do
>>you even bother telling people what show it was
>>afterwards? Forgive me for being so blunt, but as far
>>as I'm concerned it is planned and does fail. That
>>being said I do believe that you guys play from the
>>heart and are talented musicians and I have said thir
>>previously.
>>
>>"We don't try to look, sound, act like the Dead it's
>>just how it is.>Every show is different from the
>next."
>>
>>Sorry Rob, but check out your own web site,
>>particularly under the photos and bios of the band.
>>They put the person you are supposed to be in
>>parentheses after your own names with a picture of you
>>guys. But it appears you guys changed that since I
>>first posted. Anyway, John's photo is him with a
>>famous Garcia facial expression. Am I wrong? Maybe
>>you're right, maybe it is just how it is, but then why
>>bother naming the band member you are supposed to be
>>portraying on your own website with a bio about how
>>you studied Bobby for years? Or a photo of you looking
>>like that person?
>>
>>"Another thing
>>>about the Dead that many forget is that half of their
>>>material were cover songs from other artists. Some of
>>>our favorites Morning Dew, Going Down The Road, I
>Know
>>>You Rider etc were all covers."
>>
>>I'm very aware of this and actually mentioned it in
>>several of my posts followed by saying that I'd like
>>to hear you guys play those covers your own way,
>>because you guys can play. If you look you will see
>>these comments over and over. Also, I'd like to point
>>out that the boys played covers the way they played,
>>not copying the tune, they made a cover theirs in a
>>way by playing it the way they played. I think you
>>guys should do the same. They covered them for a
>>reason. They're great songs. Also, I'm probably wrong,
>>but I thought Dew was actually a poem that Garcia put
>>music to, but now that I think of it, yes the woman
>>that wrote it also sang it I think.
>>
>>"Each
>>>night we get to explore the music and take it
>>>different places. The jazz community has been
>covering
>>>each others songs for decades. It's a priviladge to
>be
>>>able to play this music."
>>
>>You're right and again, the Jazz community, of which
>>I'm very, very familiar does play covers of even their
>>contemporaries, but each musician or ensemble does it
>>with their own interpretation as the boys did. That's
>>what makes it special. Would love to hear you guys do
>>the same. I love hitting a small jazz club in
>>Manahattan and seeing a bunch of guys that are not the
>>big dogs shredding a Stella By Starlight or a
>>Cantaloupe Island or a Mingus tune and hearing them do
>>it the way THEY do it. A friend said it best right
>>here in one of these reviews, I'm paraphrasing. You
>>guys have the talent and you play so well, you're
>>playing fantastic music that has so many
>>improvisational possibilities, why not open the door
>>and step out into them.
>>
>>"The thing that Bootsy doesn't
>>>get is that being a Dead Head is a way of life, a way
>>>of thinking. The music was just one part of it the
>>>other part was and is the people. The beauty is when
>>>it all comes together. Who cares if you know the
>title
>>>if it moves you emotionally THATS whats important!
>>>Those open enough get it and will continue to come
>>>back the others will miss it but that's also a part
>of
>>>life."
>>
>>Dude you have no more right to tell these people or me
>>what a Dead Head is than I do. I was man enough to
>>admit it. Now can you? I know exactly what it is to be
>>a Dead Head, because I live my lide each and every day
>>as one. Without having to posture myself as one or
>>scream it fromt he roof tops. Besides you could ask
>>1,000 different Dead Heads what a Dead Head is and
>>you'd probably get 975 different answers and I would
>>expect you to know that. I even said in a few posts
>>that I'm sure you guys are true Dead Heads. You don't
>>know me or who I am. For all you know we hung out at a
>>show or two and had some laughs together or bumped
>>into each other in the parking lot from time to time.
>>
>>"The music was just one part of it the
>>>other part was and is the people. The beauty is when
>>>it all comes together. Who cares if you know the
>title
>>>if it moves you emotionally THATS whats important!"
>>
>>One of your fans I've been emailing with said it best
>>about this very topic...Me: "I tried to use a little
>>tough love and I guess it back fired. God how many
>>times did I
>>have the older tour heads go off on me about shit when
>>I was on tour?"
>>
>>DSO Fan: "This is probably related to the
>>all-too-common occurance of email not really capturing
>>the exact emotional inflection of its writer and the
>>reader over-reading it."
>>
>>I want EVERYONE to be a Dead Head, imagine what a
>>world it would truly, truly be. All I want is for them
>>to get into it for the right reasons and learn about
>>how and why it happened and continues. Not just to
>>rush to see a coverband portraying the real thing and
>>pretend that you are there. Most of the people at the
>>show I saw were under 30 years old and it was evident
>>that they were there for the wrong reasons. I used the
>>Mexicali thing as an example. Maybe it was wrong.
>>Probably was. I would not have wanted someone to do
>>that to me at a show back in the day. But maybe that
>>kid will listen to the music now and learn about it
>>instead of worrying more about his clothes and whether
>>or not he's pulling the correct dance moves. Sorry,
>>there goes that tough love thing again. I dived
>>headfirst into the Grateful Dead community at 17 and
>>met a lot of cool people that brought me along. I have
>>brought many people along and still do. I just want
>>them to love it for the right reasons. And I
>>personally don't think what you are doing is right and
>>I'm not the only Dead Head that thinks so bro. Sorry
>>if you thought differently.
>>
>>"Those open enough get it and will continue to come
>>>back the others will miss it but that's also a part
>of
>>>life."
>>
>>Kind of an arrogant statement. Don't you think? Not
>>that many of mine have not been. If they don't get
>>what the DSO is doing then they don't get it? Or don't
>>get what the Dead was doing? We're kind of singing the
>>same tune on different street corners. Guess we're
>>both throwing stones. No Grateful Dead pun intended.
>>
>>"When the old Grateful Dead family come out to
>>>see us (Kidd, Betty, Mountain Girl, Donna Jean, Harry
>>>Popick the list goes on) that's our biggest jury.
>They
>>>continue to come out because the feeling is the same
>>>and they would know certainly more so then Bootsy."
>>
>>True I guess they would not more about that than me.
>>However I've already stated several times why they do
>>and I'm not going to drag the Family through the mud.
>>I've met a lot of them over the years and most were
>>very decent people. I've said what I have to say about
>>this.
>>
>>"Imagine if nobody ever played other artists music
>>>after the original stopped? What a sad thing that
>>>would be! Peace"
>>
>>Never said that nobody should. Just think each person
>>should interpret it in their own way. You can think
>>what you want of me Rob, but I am a very creative
>>person and I'm seriously anti-establishment and always
>>have been. I live in the man's world as little as
>>possible and make my own way. I've found a way to use
>>my creativity and many of the lessons I learned from
>>being a Dead Head in my life every day. Not all of my
>>ideas are original, but if I don't put my own spin on
>>them or allow my creativity to flow into them, I'm not
>>creating, I'm just recreating. Peace man. Seriously.
>>Bootsy has TONS O LOVE for all of you and all that
>>know me, know that.
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