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Date Posted: 13:26:28 08/26/05 Fri
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Bootsy
's message, "Re: MY REPLY TO ROB" on 12:56:46 08/26/05 Fri
>>As I write this response to Rob's reply I'm enjoying a
>>bowl of Rocky Road ice cream, it sooths me like the
>>violin soothed the monster. Just kidding, but it is
>>really really good. I suggest you get some before
>>reading this. Chocolate, Marshmellows and Almonds Oh
>>My!
>>
>>Rob, I want to thank you once again for chiming in and
>>I respect you for doing so. It takes guts and shows
>>you are a decent guy. However, I don't agree with
>>everything you've had to say and I'd like a chance to
>>address your remarks if I may.
>>
>>First I'd like you and everyone else to know that I
>>have had and still have dialogue via email with some
>>people that are big fans of yours and although we see
>>things differently we have managed to find a common
>>ground where we can passionately disagree, yet still
>>see where each other are coming from and even helped
>>each other see things in a different light. Why is
>>that so hard for everyone else? I won't name their
>>names as I would not want them to be alienated or
>>shunned for associating themselves with such an evil,
>>hateful sociopath such as myself. But I think if you
>>asked them about me, they'd have some nice things to
>>say. With that said...
>>
>>"What
>>>bootsy doesn't get is that DSO does NOT COPY any show
>>>in any way. The concept of playing "shows" for us is
>>>mearly a set list. It would be against everything the
>>>music is meant to be if it were "copied" as boosty
>>>suggests. The beauty of the music is that it's based
>>>around improvisation. The heart and soul of the music
>>>is the freedom to play it as you feel at that moment.
>>>If it's forced or planned it fails. We play the music
>>>from our hearts not from our heads."
>>
>>I myself did not hear the improv. It sounded to me
>>like you guys were playing a show that you picked out
>>and there are many others that feel the same way. If
>>you say it ain't so I'll believe you. But why then do
>>you even bother telling people what show it was
>>afterwards? Forgive me for being so blunt, but as far
>>as I'm concerned it is planned and does fail. That
>>being said I do believe that you guys play from the
>>heart and are talented musicians and I have said thir
>>previously.
>>
>>"We don't try to look, sound, act like the Dead it's
>>just how it is.>Every show is different from the
>next."
>>
>>Sorry Rob, but check out your own web site,
>>particularly under the photos and bios of the band.
>>They put the person you are supposed to be in
>>parentheses after your own names with a picture of you
>>guys. But it appears you guys changed that since I
>>first posted. Anyway, John's photo is him with a
>>famous Garcia facial expression. Am I wrong? Maybe
>>you're right, maybe it is just how it is, but then why
>>bother naming the band member you are supposed to be
>>portraying on your own website with a bio about how
>>you studied Bobby for years? Or a photo of you looking
>>like that person?
>>
>>"Another thing
>>>about the Dead that many forget is that half of their
>>>material were cover songs from other artists. Some of
>>>our favorites Morning Dew, Going Down The Road, I
>Know
>>>You Rider etc were all covers."
>>
>>I'm very aware of this and actually mentioned it in
>>several of my posts followed by saying that I'd like
>>to hear you guys play those covers your own way,
>>because you guys can play. If you look you will see
>>these comments over and over. Also, I'd like to point
>>out that the boys played covers the way they played,
>>not copying the tune, they made a cover theirs in a
>>way by playing it the way they played. I think you
>>guys should do the same. They covered them for a
>>reason. They're great songs. Also, I'm probably wrong,
>>but I thought Dew was actually a poem that Garcia put
>>music to, but now that I think of it, yes the woman
>>that wrote it also sang it I think.
>>
>>"Each
>>>night we get to explore the music and take it
>>>different places. The jazz community has been
>covering
>>>each others songs for decades. It's a priviladge to
>be
>>>able to play this music."
>>
>>You're right and again, the Jazz community, of which
>>I'm very, very familiar does play covers of even their
>>contemporaries, but each musician or ensemble does it
>>with their own interpretation as the boys did. That's
>>what makes it special. Would love to hear you guys do
>>the same. I love hitting a small jazz club in
>>Manahattan and seeing a bunch of guys that are not the
>>big dogs shredding a Stella By Starlight or a
>>Cantaloupe Island or a Mingus tune and hearing them do
>>it the way THEY do it. A friend said it best right
>>here in one of these reviews, I'm paraphrasing. You
>>guys have the talent and you play so well, you're
>>playing fantastic music that has so many
>>improvisational possibilities, why not open the door
>>and step out into them.
>>
>>"The thing that Bootsy doesn't
>>>get is that being a Dead Head is a way of life, a way
>>>of thinking. The music was just one part of it the
>>>other part was and is the people. The beauty is when
>>>it all comes together. Who cares if you know the
>title
>>>if it moves you emotionally THATS whats important!
>>>Those open enough get it and will continue to come
>>>back the others will miss it but that's also a part
>of
>>>life."
>>
>>Dude you have no more right to tell these people or me
>>what a Dead Head is than I do. I was man enough to
>>admit it. Now can you? I know exactly what it is to be
>>a Dead Head, because I live my lide each and every day
>>as one. Without having to posture myself as one or
>>scream it fromt he roof tops. Besides you could ask
>>1,000 different Dead Heads what a Dead Head is and
>>you'd probably get 975 different answers and I would
>>expect you to know that. I even said in a few posts
>>that I'm sure you guys are true Dead Heads. You don't
>>know me or who I am. For all you know we hung out at a
>>show or two and had some laughs together or bumped
>>into each other in the parking lot from time to time.
>>
>>"The music was just one part of it the
>>>other part was and is the people. The beauty is when
>>>it all comes together. Who cares if you know the
>title
>>>if it moves you emotionally THATS whats important!"
>>
>>One of your fans I've been emailing with said it best
>>about this very topic...Me: "I tried to use a little
>>tough love and I guess it back fired. God how many
>>times did I
>>have the older tour heads go off on me about shit when
>>I was on tour?"
>>
>>DSO Fan: "This is probably related to the
>>all-too-common occurance of email not really capturing
>>the exact emotional inflection of its writer and the
>>reader over-reading it."
>>
>>I want EVERYONE to be a Dead Head, imagine what a
>>world it would truly, truly be. All I want is for them
>>to get into it for the right reasons and learn about
>>how and why it happened and continues. Not just to
>>rush to see a coverband portraying the real thing and
>>pretend that you are there. Most of the people at the
>>show I saw were under 30 years old and it was evident
>>that they were there for the wrong reasons. I used the
>>Mexicali thing as an example. Maybe it was wrong.
>>Probably was. I would not have wanted someone to do
>>that to me at a show back in the day. But maybe that
>>kid will listen to the music now and learn about it
>>instead of worrying more about his clothes and whether
>>or not he's pulling the correct dance moves. Sorry,
>>there goes that tough love thing again. I dived
>>headfirst into the Grateful Dead community at 17 and
>>met a lot of cool people that brought me along. I have
>>brought many people along and still do. I just want
>>them to love it for the right reasons. And I
>>personally don't think what you are doing is right and
>>I'm not the only Dead Head that thinks so bro. Sorry
>>if you thought differently.
>>
>>"Those open enough get it and will continue to come
>>>back the others will miss it but that's also a part
>of
>>>life."
>>
>>Kind of an arrogant statement. Don't you think? Not
>>that many of mine have not been. If they don't get
>>what the DSO is doing then they don't get it? Or don't
>>get what the Dead was doing? We're kind of singing the
>>same tune on different street corners. Guess we're
>>both throwing stones. No Grateful Dead pun intended.
>>
>>"When the old Grateful Dead family come out to
>>>see us (Kidd, Betty, Mountain Girl, Donna Jean, Harry
>>>Popick the list goes on) that's our biggest jury.
>They
>>>continue to come out because the feeling is the same
>>>and they would know certainly more so then Bootsy."
>>
>>True I guess they would not more about that than me.
>>However I've already stated several times why they do
>>and I'm not going to drag the Family through the mud.
>>I've met a lot of them over the years and most were
>>very decent people. I've said what I have to say about
>>this.
>>
>>"Imagine if nobody ever played other artists music
>>>after the original stopped? What a sad thing that
>>>would be! Peace"
>>
>>Never said that nobody should. Just think each person
>>should interpret it in their own way. You can think
>>what you want of me Rob, but I am a very creative
>>person and I'm seriously anti-establishment and always
>>have been. I live in the man's world as little as
>>possible and make my own way. I've found a way to use
>>my creativity and many of the lessons I learned from
>>being a Dead Head in my life every day. Not all of my
>>ideas are original, but if I don't put my own spin on
>>them or allow my creativity to flow into them, I'm not
>>creating, I'm just recreating. Peace man. Seriously.
>>Bootsy has TONS O LOVE for all of you and all that
>>know me, know that.
>>
>>>As I write this response to Rob's reply I'm enjoying
>a
>>>bowl of Rocky Road ice cream, it sooths me like the
>>>violin soothed the monster. Just kidding, but it is
>>>really really good. I suggest you get some before
>>>reading this. Chocolate, Marshmellows and Almonds Oh
>>>My!
>>>
>>>Rob, I want to thank you once again for chiming in
>and
>>>I respect you for doing so. It takes guts and shows
>>>you are a decent guy. However, I don't agree with
>>>everything you've had to say and I'd like a chance to
>>>address your remarks if I may.
>>>
>>>First I'd like you and everyone else to know that I
>>>have had and still have dialogue via email with some
>>>people that are big fans of yours and although we see
>>>things differently we have managed to find a common
>>>ground where we can passionately disagree, yet still
>>>see where each other are coming from and even helped
>>>each other see things in a different light. Why is
>>>that so hard for everyone else? I won't name their
>>>names as I would not want them to be alienated or
>>>shunned for associating themselves with such an evil,
>>>hateful sociopath such as myself. But I think if you
>>>asked them about me, they'd have some nice things to
>>>say. With that said...
>>>
>>>"What
>>>>bootsy doesn't get is that DSO does NOT COPY any
>show
>>>>in any way. The concept of playing "shows" for us is
>>>>mearly a set list. It would be against everything
>the
>>>>music is meant to be if it were "copied" as boosty
>>>>suggests. The beauty of the music is that it's based
>>>>around improvisation. The heart and soul of the
>music
>>>>is the freedom to play it as you feel at that
>moment.
>>>>If it's forced or planned it fails. We play the
>music
>>>>from our hearts not from our heads."
>>>
>>>I myself did not hear the improv. It sounded to me
>>>like you guys were playing a show that you picked out
>>>and there are many others that feel the same way. If
>>>you say it ain't so I'll believe you. But why then do
>>>you even bother telling people what show it was
>>>afterwards? Forgive me for being so blunt, but as far
>>>as I'm concerned it is planned and does fail. That
>>>being said I do believe that you guys play from the
>>>heart and are talented musicians and I have said thir
>>>previously.
>>>
>>>"We don't try to look, sound, act like the Dead it's
>>>just how it is.>Every show is different from the
>>next."
>>>
>>>Sorry Rob, but check out your own web site,
>>>particularly under the photos and bios of the band.
>>>They put the person you are supposed to be in
>>>parentheses after your own names with a picture of
>you
>>>guys. But it appears you guys changed that since I
>>>first posted. Anyway, John's photo is him with a
>>>famous Garcia facial expression. Am I wrong? Maybe
>>>you're right, maybe it is just how it is, but then
>why
>>>bother naming the band member you are supposed to be
>>>portraying on your own website with a bio about how
>>>you studied Bobby for years? Or a photo of you
>looking
>>>like that person?
>>>
>>>"Another thing
>>>>about the Dead that many forget is that half of
>their
>>>>material were cover songs from other artists. Some
>of
>>>>our favorites Morning Dew, Going Down The Road, I
>>Know
>>>>You Rider etc were all covers."
>>>
>>>I'm very aware of this and actually mentioned it in
>>>several of my posts followed by saying that I'd like
>>>to hear you guys play those covers your own way,
>>>because you guys can play. If you look you will see
>>>these comments over and over. Also, I'd like to point
>>>out that the boys played covers the way they played,
>>>not copying the tune, they made a cover theirs in a
>>>way by playing it the way they played. I think you
>>>guys should do the same. They covered them for a
>>>reason. They're great songs. Also, I'm probably
>wrong,
>>>but I thought Dew was actually a poem that Garcia put
>>>music to, but now that I think of it, yes the woman
>>>that wrote it also sang it I think.
>>>
>>>"Each
>>>>night we get to explore the music and take it
>>>>different places. The jazz community has been
>>covering
>>>>each others songs for decades. It's a priviladge to
>>be
>>>>able to play this music."
>>>
>>>You're right and again, the Jazz community, of which
>>>I'm very, very familiar does play covers of even
>their
>>>contemporaries, but each musician or ensemble does it
>>>with their own interpretation as the boys did. That's
>>>what makes it special. Would love to hear you guys do
>>>the same. I love hitting a small jazz club in
>>>Manahattan and seeing a bunch of guys that are not
>the
>>>big dogs shredding a Stella By Starlight or a
>>>Cantaloupe Island or a Mingus tune and hearing them
>do
>>>it the way THEY do it. A friend said it best right
>>>here in one of these reviews, I'm paraphrasing. You
>>>guys have the talent and you play so well, you're
>>>playing fantastic music that has so many
>>>improvisational possibilities, why not open the door
>>>and step out into them.
>>>
>>>"The thing that Bootsy doesn't
>>>>get is that being a Dead Head is a way of life, a
>way
>>>>of thinking. The music was just one part of it the
>>>>other part was and is the people. The beauty is when
>>>>it all comes together. Who cares if you know the
>>title
>>>>if it moves you emotionally THATS whats important!
>>>>Those open enough get it and will continue to come
>>>>back the others will miss it but that's also a part
>>of
>>>>life."
>>>
>>>Dude you have no more right to tell these people or
>me
>>>what a Dead Head is than I do. I was man enough to
>>>admit it. Now can you? I know exactly what it is to
>be
>>>a Dead Head, because I live my lide each and every
>day
>>>as one. Without having to posture myself as one or
>>>scream it fromt he roof tops. Besides you could ask
>>>1,000 different Dead Heads what a Dead Head is and
>>>you'd probably get 975 different answers and I would
>>>expect you to know that. I even said in a few posts
>>>that I'm sure you guys are true Dead Heads. You don't
>>>know me or who I am. For all you know we hung out at
>a
>>>show or two and had some laughs together or bumped
>>>into each other in the parking lot from time to
>time.
>>>
>>>"The music was just one part of it the
>>>>other part was and is the people. The beauty is when
>>>>it all comes together. Who cares if you know the
>>title
>>>>if it moves you emotionally THATS whats important!"
>>>
>>>One of your fans I've been emailing with said it best
>>>about this very topic...Me: "I tried to use a little
>>>tough love and I guess it back fired. God how many
>>>times did I
>>>have the older tour heads go off on me about shit
>when
>>>I was on tour?"
>>>
>>>DSO Fan: "This is probably related to the
>>>all-too-common occurance of email not really
>capturing
>>>the exact emotional inflection of its writer and the
>>>reader over-reading it."
>>>
>>>I want EVERYONE to be a Dead Head, imagine what a
>>>world it would truly, truly be. All I want is for
>them
>>>to get into it for the right reasons and learn about
>>>how and why it happened and continues. Not just to
>>>rush to see a coverband portraying the real thing and
>>>pretend that you are there. Most of the people at the
>>>show I saw were under 30 years old and it was evident
>>>that they were there for the wrong reasons. I used
>the
>>>Mexicali thing as an example. Maybe it was wrong.
>>>Probably was. I would not have wanted someone to do
>>>that to me at a show back in the day. But maybe that
>>>kid will listen to the music now and learn about it
>>>instead of worrying more about his clothes and
>whether
>>>or not he's pulling the correct dance moves. Sorry,
>>>there goes that tough love thing again. I dived
>>>headfirst into the Grateful Dead community at 17 and
>>>met a lot of cool people that brought me along. I
>have
>>>brought many people along and still do. I just want
>>>them to love it for the right reasons. And I
>>>personally don't think what you are doing is right
>and
>>>I'm not the only Dead Head that thinks so bro. Sorry
>>>if you thought differently.
>>>
>>>"Those open enough get it and will continue to come
>>>>back the others will miss it but that's also a part
>>of
>>>>life."
>>>
>>>Kind of an arrogant statement. Don't you think? Not
>>>that many of mine have not been. If they don't get
>>>what the DSO is doing then they don't get it? Or
>don't
>>>get what the Dead was doing? We're kind of singing
>the
>>>same tune on different street corners. Guess we're
>>>both throwing stones. No Grateful Dead pun intended.
>>>
>>>"When the old Grateful Dead family come out to
>>>>see us (Kidd, Betty, Mountain Girl, Donna Jean,
>Harry
>>>>Popick the list goes on) that's our biggest jury.
>>They
>>>>continue to come out because the feeling is the same
>>>>and they would know certainly more so then Bootsy."
>>>
>>>True I guess they would not more about that than me.
>>>However I've already stated several times why they do
>>>and I'm not going to drag the Family through the mud.
>>>I've met a lot of them over the years and most were
>>>very decent people. I've said what I have to say
>about
>>>this.
>>>
>>>"Imagine if nobody ever played other artists music
>>>>after the original stopped? What a sad thing that
>>>>would be! Peace"
>>>
>>>Never said that nobody should. Just think each person
>>>should interpret it in their own way. You can think
>>>what you want of me Rob, but I am a very creative
>>>person and I'm seriously anti-establishment and
>always
>>>have been. I live in the man's world as little as
>>>possible and make my own way. I've found a way to use
>>>my creativity and many of the lessons I learned from
>>>being a Dead Head in my life every day. Not all of my
>>>ideas are original, but if I don't put my own spin on
>>>them or allow my creativity to flow into them, I'm
>not
>>>creating, I'm just recreating. Peace man. Seriously.
>>>Bootsy has TONS O LOVE for all of you and all that
>>>know me, know that.
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