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Date Posted: Sat, Jan 19, 05:12:04pm CST
Author: Perry
Author Host/IP: cache-mtc-aa09.proxy.aol.com / 64.12.116.13
Subject: Re: Just wondering??
In reply to: Rex B 's message, "Re: Just wondering??" on Sat, Jan 19, 04:45:10pm CST

>>Just curious... What are folks thoughts on dogs bred
>>for coon in the Carolinas or southern swamps vs bear
>>bred dogs for Wi. and MN. vs cat dogs for Montana and
>>Idaho. Will they all be bred the same for the same
>>traits, size etc?? Never bear or cat hunted myself.
>>Never hunted in bear or cat country either. But I do
>>believe the differnt terrain and game would cause
>>breeders to breed a little different dog than maybe a
>>coon hunter in the midwest. With that said if all
>>these dogs were lets say walkers in the beginning and
>>had bred for generations in these regions for seperate
>>jobs are they still all the same breed or what? I
>>believe yes but some folks don't seem to think so. I
>>really think that a dog bred and raised by a seasoned
>>bear hunter in WA. for generations may differ from a
>>dog here in OHIO from the same foundation stock but
>>bred for generations for coon hunting.I know when I
>>was a kid dogs from open country like Kansas and
>>Oklahoma tended to be a good bit bigger than dogs
>>raised here in Ohio and Indiana where live stock woven
>>wire fences were common.I think a bear bred leopard in
>>Ca. vs a coon bred leopard here in Ohio are both
>>leopards.
> good point, Perry. Selective breeding can result in
>differing dogs, from same pedigrees. Bear bred dogs in
>our area must be powerful hard running dogs that can
>take a lot of punishment from the terrain and long
>hrs. they do not have to be extremly quick locators,
>or have to be lay up dogs, but dogs of this breeding
>can do all this. Bobcat and gray fox dogs must be able
>to push a track and not let the critter rest when it
>plays its tricks, and must also be very good locators
>unlike a beardog. Coon dog has to be agood track dog,
>and if a hunter wants a really good dog, the dog must
>be a lay up and pressure tree dog, and split tree.
>Many of our origanal dogs were good at most of these
>things. My question is; how well will a dog used for
>only for big game, retain the traits needed to excell
>as a coon dog over several generations? Also, if bred
>for slow trailing , how many generations will they
>retain the heads up, run to catch,mentality? Maybe we
>would have two breeds, but which is a Cur, and which
>is a trail hound? Rex
Rex my opinion we are allredy heading down that trail with the use of selective breeding for different game.

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