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Date Posted: 07:54:38 04/22/08 Tue
Author: Ari
Subject: Re: Peak Oil - higher peaks in the offing?
In reply to: Owen 's message, "Peak Oil - higher peaks in the offing?" on 20:49:03 04/18/08 Fri

These guy(s) saying the earth is producing more oil are total fucking cranks. Seriously, they're no better than creationists or the Flat Earth Society. The overwhelming consensus view is that oil & coal were produced by fossilization of plants and animals which died during the eponymously named carboniferous age.

Just heard this on the radio this morning:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89831088&ft=1&f=1001

Again, this guy is supposed to be representing the wild-optimistic-heads-up-the-arse-status-quo position. He's saying peak oil in 2015 to 2020.

Folks, that's the OPTIMISTIC view. The pessimistic view is that we passed peak around 2000 and the probably realistic view is the emerging consensus that we passed peak oil in May of 2005. When considered in a geological or even historical timeframe we're really splitting hairs here. Peak oil is happening "nowish" +/- a decade or two.

Actually, the question I have is about coal. I was talking to a buddy that used to work in the energy sector, and he was saying we have 400 years of coal, and that coal is pretty easy to refine into liquid fuel for cars and planes. (By the way, if that's true then we are completely fucked from global warming perspective...)

Anyone know a source of good stats on goal reserves or relative effieiency of turning coal into liquid fuel?

By the way, I don't think peak oil means the end of the world. Only the end of the world as we know it. Actually, high fuel prices could be our only hope of salvation as far as global warming: high fuel prices are like the necessary carbon tax we're too chickenshit to impose on ourselves...

- Ari

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