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Date Posted: 19:04:52 04/07/03 Mon
Author: SurveyGuy (The next decade should be interesting)
Author Host/IP: NoHost / 68.81.153.209
Subject: Someone sent this to me. Admittedly it is somewhat slanted, but still worth the read.

Brief History of Germany

1871 - Bismarck founds modern Germany.
1890 - Bismarck sacked, warmonger Wilhelm II takes direct control.
1914 - Germany starts World War I
1914-1918 - Germany kills millions upon millions of people.
1917 - Germany force peace loving Americans to enter war.
1918 - Germany loses World War I.
1920's - Germans try democracy.

1933 - Germans reject democracy, allow Hitler to take power.
1939 - Germany starts World War II.
1939-1945 - Germany kills millions upon millions of people.

1941 - Germany force peace loving Americans to enter war.
1945 - Germany loses World War II.
1946 - Germans whine about lack of food, America gives billions in food aid to feed them.
1947 - Germans whine about crappy economy, America gives billions in Marshall Plan aid to rebuild German economy.
1948-1949 - America puts ass on line and risks WW3 to save a few Berliners from Soviet hordes.
1949 - Federal Republic of Germany (West Germany) established.

1950's - America spends billions to defend West Germany from Soviet hordes.
1950's - German 'economic miracle' occurs while America keeps watch on Soviet hordes.
1955 - NATO formed to protect West Germany from Soviet hordes.

1960's - America spends billions to defend West Germany from Soviet hordes.
1960's - German students protest war in Vietnam and American civil rights.
1963 - American President John Kennedy makes "Ich bin ein Berliner" speech.

1970's - America spends billions to defend West Germany from Soviet hordes.
1970's - Germans form the marxist terrorist group Red Army Faction (RAF).
1970's - Leftist German guerrillas burn, loot, and plunder much of West Germany.

1980's - America spends tens of billions to defend West Germany from Soviet hordes.
1980's - German leftists bitch about Perishing II missiles.
1987 - American President Ronald Reagan makes "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" speech.
1989 - Gorbachev tears down Berlin Wall.

1990 - German Reunification.
1990's - America spends tens of billions to defend Germany from Islamic hordes.
1990's - Germany stands by as ethnic cleansing occurs in Balkans.
1993 - Germany joins European Union.
1995 - Americans send troops to Bosnia as Germans watch from the sidelines.
1997 - Germans finally send troops to Bosnia.
1998 - Hard-line, left-of-left socialists come to power under Gerhard Schroeder.
1999 - Americans lead air war to save Kosovo as Germans watch from the sidelines.

2001 - Schroeder offers solidarity to America after 9/11 attacks.
2002 - Schroeder bashes America to distract voters during election campaign.
2003 - Germany sees rise in anti-Americanism after several decades of "poor treatment" from America.

AND YOU THOUGHT THE FRENCH WERE A BUNCH OF UNGRATEFUL BASTARDS?

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[> Sounds slanted ... and accurate ... in the right direction. They left out the part about the 80 plus German companies which supplied Saddam's Iraq. -- William, 02:48:36 04/08/03 Tue (cache-mtc-ah04.proxy.aol.com/64.12.96.169)

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[> [> An the companies that kept Jewish slaves working in the mines, but is is a "brief" history, after all. -- SurveyGuy, 09:24:20 04/08/03 Tue (NoHost/68.81.153.209)

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[> An interesting review. Bias aside, how soon we all forget history, track records, and context, in our "instant gratification" culture. -- Spock, 10:58:02 04/08/03 Tue (user-vc8fm1s.biz.mindspring.com/216.135.216.60)

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[> OK, I give up. "1990's - America spends tens of billions to defend Germany from Islamic hordes." Help me someone, I don't recognise what this is referring to. I know the "Islamic Hordes" got to the gates of Vienna and introduced them to coffee, but that was Austria, and that was in 1683. -- Chris Henry, 12:33:19 04/09/03 Wed (cache1-2.ruh.isu.net.sa/212.138.47.11)

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[> [> The list (with no author) may be referring to preventing hordes of Islamic refugees from fleeing Bosnia-Herzgovinia/Albania into Germany. Just a guess. The term may be a misuse of the several historic events, even of 600 years ago and earlier. When you get this stuff in emails, you must take the content with a grain of salt, unless researched. That is why I clearly gave my source as unsolicited. -- SurveyGuy (The point is that plenty of treasure and blood was spent on Germany. Too bad - I like their wines.), 16:41:09 04/09/03 Wed (pcp01422563pcs.lndsd201.pa.comcast.net/68.81.153.209)

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[> [> [> I'm tellin' ya SG, wines from Chile or Southeast Australia are a darn sight cheaper and quite good too, and not so politically loaded...for now... -- Spock, 11:09:59 04/10/03 Thu (user-vc8fm1s.biz.mindspring.com/216.135.216.60)

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[> [> [> [> But I have an '83 Auslese that is ready to drink. I am not likely to buy more. I like the Australian Shiraz's (try Wyndam Estates Bin 555). -- SurveyGuy ( Wines mean much more to the French economy and pride. I just won't by any Mercedes-Benz [grin]), 19:03:15 04/10/03 Thu (NoHost/68.81.153.209)

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[> [> [> [> [> Well, if you think about it, the farmers who make the wine are just earning an honest living, regardless of how jerky their government is. So, drink up and enjoy without guilt... -- Spock, 16:20:02 04/11/03 Fri (user-vc8fm1s.biz.mindspring.com/216.135.216.60)

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[> [> [> [> [> [> One of the strange twists is that Hollywood types like Francis Ford Coppola have bought large vineyards in California and are selling their wines. (Pretty good too.) Life is so complicated. -- SurveyGuy, 15:57:32 04/17/03 Thu (pcp01422563pcs.lndsd201.pa.comcast.net/68.81.153.209)

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Perhaps we should be motivated to learn to make our own wines? -- Spock, 11:37:00 04/18/03 Fri (user-vc8fm1s.biz.mindspring.com/216.135.216.60)

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[> [> Upon investigation, I cannot discover any clear reference to that item anywhere. In any event it does not change the main point. Thanks for pointing out the apparent error. Anybody note any other obvious errors in the list? The main point again is that either Germany is the cause of trouble, or needs to be assisted, yet their rhetoric was unnecessarily harsh in their dissent. Time to pull NATO out of Germany and let them spend their own damned GDP for defense. -- SurveyGuy (The re-emergence of overt anti-semitism is something equally unsettling.), 14:34:36 04/11/03 Fri (pcp01422563pcs.lndsd201.pa.comcast.net/68.81.153.209)

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[> [> do you get it now? -- repunzzell, 23:21:11 07/25/03 Fri (ip68-12-3-117.ok.ok.cox.net/68.12.3.117)

Do you? Read History books...maybe not from Germany, I hear they are re-writing theirs.

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