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Date Posted: 17:24:36 04/20/03 Sun
Author: SurveyGuy (not surprised, but disappointed)
Author Host/IP: pcp01422563pcs.lndsd201.pa.comcast.net / 68.81.153.209
Subject: As evidence is revealed, the picture gets more disturbing . . . will the explanations be revealing as well? Only time will tell.

OPERATION: IRAQI FREEDOM
German spies aided Saddam?
Documents seized in Baghdad point to ties with Iraq's intelligence service

Documents recovered from the bombed Iraqi intelligence headquarters in Baghdad reveal Germany's intelligence services attempted to build closer ties to Saddam's secret service during the build-up to war last year, according to a report in the London Telegraph.

The documents point to a meeting on January 29, 2002 between an agent named as Johannes William Hoffner and Lt. Gen. Taher Jalil Haboosh, the director of Iraq's intelligence service.

Haboosh indicates the Iraqis are anxious to cultivate a relationship with Germany's intelligence agency ''under diplomatic cover," and offers to give lucrative contracts to German companies if Berlin helps prevent an American invasion of Iraq. He also urges Hoffner to lobby the German government to raise its diplomatic mission in Baghdad to full ambassadorial level, according to the Telegraph.

''When the American conspiracy is finished, we will make a calculation for each state that helps Iraq in its crisis,'' Haboosh says. He indicates he hoped to forge the relationship through Hoffner, who replies: ''My organization wants to develop its relationship with your organization.''

Haboosh also tells the German agent Iraq has ''big problems'' with Britain and the United States. ''We have problems with Britain because it occupied Iraq for 60 years and with America because of its aggression for 11 years,'' he says.

The meeting between the Iraqi and German agents took place some six months before Chancellor Schroeder's government began its policy of direct opposition to the idea of a U.S.-led war against Iraq. Schroeder was re-elected last September, largely because of the popularity of his government's outspoken opposition to the war.

The revelations about Iraq's ties to German intelligence come a week after The Telegraph reported Russia had spied for the Iraqis, passing them intelligence about a meeting between Tony Blair and Silvio Berlusconi, the Italian prime minister. Both the British and Italian governments have launched investigations.

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[> Maybe we should be looking at evryone on the security council that voted, in effect, to keep Saddam. Hmmm? -- SurveyGuy, 17:25:52 04/20/03 Sun (pcp01422563pcs.lndsd201.pa.comcast.net/68.81.153.209)

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[> P.S. You'll love this ... Syria is on the security council. -- SurveyGuy, 20:05:27 04/20/03 Sun (pcp01422563pcs.lndsd201.pa.comcast.net/68.81.153.209)

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